Philippines mulling purchase of Italian frigates

[rollyic]

Bravo to Philippine Military!:cheer3:


Philippines mulling purchase of Italian frigates - InterAksyon.com

apat na chopper, dalawang frigates at dalawang hamilton class!...ayos! kahit papaano may ngipin na! :D

wait na lang natin yung mga fighter planes ;)

[BratPAQ]

21 huey chopper and 4 attack helicopters, and i heard on the news brand new yung attack chopper, though yung frigates eh "veteran" na, hehe. at least hindi tulad nung binenta sa pnp na 2nd hand na pinalabas na brand new choppers, haha.

[Monseratto]

Mas maganda kung ung press release na turnover sa pinas ung frigates. . Yun Korean jets nga nawala na sa balita... Pera na naman pinoproblema.

Officials are just waiting for the enactment of the Armed Forces of the Philippines modernization law, which Gazmin said they expect by the end of this year, to continue negotiations with Italy.

[CVT]

Bilhin na ang mga Frigates at kailangan ng panghakot/panghila ng mga basura sa Manila Bay...

16.5K:weathermanf3:

[vinj]

Mas maganda kung ung press release na turnover sa pinas ung frigates. . Yun Korean jets nga nawala na sa balita... Pera na naman pinoproblema.

Utang muna sila sa bangko SM or Ayala group. :D

[timrev]

mukang magandang balita nga yan...pero sana yan balitang yan ay magkatotoo

nagbunga din yun paghahanap ng nga generals dati sa italy, Australia, SK ...kaya lang press release lang

[Monseratto]

Guess who ordered those ships in the first place...

Soldati, also known as Artigliere, class frigates are a modified variant of Lupo design originally ordered by the Iraqi Navy. Four ships were ordered by Iraq in the late 1970s when was ruled by Saddam Hussein but were not handed over due to the arms embargo caused by the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s. After a decade of non usage they finally entered service in the Marina Militare.

1994-oct-29 Commissioned F 582 Artigliere
1995-jan-4 Commissioned F 583 Aviere
1995-nov-28 Commissioned F 584 Bersagliere
1996-mar-20 Commissioned F 585 Granatiere

[timrev]

Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin told reporters Thursday that the refurbished frigates could arrive in the country late next year. The two frigates are worth P11.7 billion.

abangan nalang natin next year...

The frigates will then undergo refurbishing, which will take up to nine months.
He stressed that the frigates would not be stripped down like the Hamilton-class cutters.
"We demanded that we will not accept what is less than what has been installed in the vessel. Nothing will be removed,"

yan ang dapat...aanhin naman ang warship na walang baril diba...anu yun pang hakot ng basura sa manila bay

The ships are primarily equipped for anti-submarine warfare with anti-aircraft and anti-surface capabilities. The Italian Navy has used the frigates since 1982 but the website naval-technology.com says they are scheduled to be replaced by newer ships next year.

The frigates are equipped with missiles, torpedoes, naval guns and a 27-meter wide helicopter flight deck.

[chua_riwap]

maganda sana yung may gattling gun. panakot sa mga sea pirates.
kahit sa mga attack helicopters natin. pag may ganyan, hands up na kagad mga abu sayyaf.

[uls]

and how much will it cost annually to operate those ships?

[timrev]

Maestrale Class Frigates, Italy
Command and control
The IPN-20 command and control system, developed by Alenia Marconi Systems (now Selex Sistemi Integrati), is interfaced with the combat system and integrates the sensors and weapon systems.

Maestrale missiles
The Maestrale class is armed with an Albatros / Aspide octuple launcher, firing Aspide medium range air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles. The system is reloaded by a Riva-Calzoni system.
The ship can carry an additional 16 missiles. Four TESEO Mk 2 missile launchers fitted above the hangar can launch Otomat / TESEO anti-ship missiles. The missile can engage targets within a 160km range, while carrying a 210kg warhead.

Naval guns
The main gun mounted on the foredeck is an Otobreda 127mm gun. It can fire 40 rounds a minute at a range of 30km. Two Oto Melara Twin 40L70 DARDO close-in weapon systems (CIWS) are fitted on the vessel.
The CIWS can fire high explosive shells against anti-ship missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and other precision guided weapons. The fire control system and fire control radar assist the unmanned turret to react rapidly to incoming missiles.

Torpedoes
The Maestrale class is fitted with two sets of 324mm triple torpedo tubes for Mk 32 torpedoes. There are two 533mm dual-purpose (ASW and AsuW) launch tubes for Whitehead A-184 wire-guided torpedoes.

Sensors / radars
The sensor suite includes an RAN10S air and surface search radar, an SPN703 navigation radar, an RTN-10X fire control radar and two RTN-20X radars for the DARDO systems. DE 1164 variable depth sonar and DE1160B hull mounted sonar are fitted to detect and track submarines.

Countermeasures
Two SCLAR rocket-launchers onboard can launch chaff and infra-red (IR) decoys to deceive incoming missiles.
"The Maestrale class is fitted with two sets of 324mm triple torpedo tubes."
Payloads include Buck DUERAS chaff and IRRAS IR decoys, SNIA 105 LR-C chaff distraction, 105 LR-I illumination, 105 MR-C chaff seduction, 105 MR-IR IR seduction rounds, FR Countermeasures 105mm chaff and IR decoy rounds.
The system is controlled by an ESA-24 calculating system.

Propulsion
The vessel is powered by a combined diesel or gas propulsion system integrating two shafts with five-bladed propellers. Two Fiat-General Electric LM-2500 gas turbines and two D Grandi Motori Trieste BL-230-20-DVM diesel engines deliver a total power of 50,000kW. The electrical system consists of two plants providing 3,120kW.
The engine is remotely operated by an electronic system known as the SEPA-7206 digital control system. The direction is changed by activating the two hydraulic rudders. The ship incorporates vibration and noise abatement measures to reduce noise and improve the survivability of the ASW vessels.
Maestrale Class Frigates - Naval Technology

[Monseratto]

and how much will it cost annually to operate those ships?

Mukhang presyong Italian rin. Hope they don't end up as drydock queens...

[Boy Bastos]

Bravo to Philippine Military!:cheer3:


Philippines mulling purchase of Italian frigates - InterAksyon.com

apat na chopper, dalawang frigates at dalawang hamilton class!...ayos! kahit papaano may ngipin na! :D

wait na lang natin yung mga fighter planes ;)

Kapag galing kay Tuneng Taberna eh Hindi ako maniniwala. Siya pala ang nagkalat ng balitang kumuha na ng jetplanes sa Korea.

[timrev]

panu kaya yun training ng mga navy personel natin sa italian frigates? kahit medyo luma na yun para sa pinoy sophisticated na...dapat my ipadala na sila navy team natin dun kung kukunin nga nila...

mas ok pa yun balitang "magpapadala ng Navy Team sa italy para sanayin gamitin ang bibilhin italian frigates"
at sana hindi presyo ferrari yun frigates

[chua_riwap]

may libre nman daw pasta & pizza. . .

[uls]

Command and control
The IPN-20 command and control system, developed by Alenia Marconi Systems (now Selex Sistemi Integrati), is interfaced with the combat system and integrates the sensors and weapon systems.

magkano paayos pag nasira?

The Maestrale class is armed with an Albatros / Aspide octuple launcher, firing Aspide medium range air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles. The system is reloaded by a Riva-Calzoni system.
The ship can carry an additional 16 missiles. Four TESEO Mk 2 missile launchers fitted above the hangar can launch Otomat / TESEO anti-ship missiles. The missile can engage targets within a 160km range, while carrying a 210kg warhead.

how much is 1 missile?

Torpedoes
The Maestrale class is fitted with two sets of 324mm triple torpedo tubes for Mk 32 torpedoes. There are two 533mm dual-purpose (ASW and AsuW) launch tubes for Whitehead A-184 wire-guided torpedoes.

wow torpedos... and how much is one of those?

Sensors / radars
The sensor suite includes an RAN10S air and surface search radar, an SPN703 navigation radar, an RTN-10X fire control radar and two RTN-20X radars for the DARDO systems. DE 1164 variable depth sonar and DE1160B hull mounted sonar are fitted to detect and track submarines.

magkano paayos pag nasira?

Countermeasures
Two SCLAR rocket-launchers onboard can launch chaff and infra-red (IR) decoys to deceive incoming missiles.
"The Maestrale class is fitted with two sets of 324mm triple torpedo tubes."
Payloads include Buck DUERAS chaff and IRRAS IR decoys, SNIA 105 LR-C chaff distraction, 105 LR-I illumination, 105 MR-C chaff seduction, 105 MR-IR IR seduction rounds, FR Countermeasures 105mm chaff and IR decoy rounds.
The system is controlled by an ESA-24 calculating system.

wow countermeasures...

Propulsion
The vessel is powered by a combined diesel or gas propulsion system integrating two shafts with five-bladed propellers. Two Fiat-General Electric LM-2500 gas turbines and two D Grandi Motori Trieste BL-230-20-DVM diesel engines deliver a total power of 50,000kW. The electrical system consists of two plants providing 3,120kW.
The engine is remotely operated by an electronic system known as the SEPA-7206 digital control system. The direction is changed by activating the two hydraulic rudders. The ship incorporates vibration and noise abatement measures to reduce noise and improve the survivability of the ASW vessels.

Fiat-General Electric gas turbines... may piesa siguro ito... GE eh

D Grandi Motori Trieste BL-230-20-DVM diesel engines -- i'm sure may mabibiling piesa ito right? right?

SEPA-7206 digital control system... sounds fancy... i'm sure kayang kaya ito ng mga electronics technician natin

[blue_gambit]

Good for the Navy!!! Yeepee!!

Kupal ang China! yeepee!!

[Monseratto]

Maestrale Class Frigates, Italy

They can't even give a straight press release which class of frigate...panay speculation. Maestrale and Soldati are 2 different class.

The Soldati class is among the items the Philippines is taking into consideration for acquisition as the Philippines and Italy recently signed a 5 year agreement for a fast track procurement of Italian-supplied new and used military equipment.

Hopefully they will release a "official" press release if they do sign this deal offl...

Fernando Manalo, defense undersecretary for finance, munitions, installations and materiel, said a separate P3.2-billion contract for the purchase of 10 attack helicopters from Eurocopter could be signed this month.

The helicopters will be delivered this year if the contract gets the green light.

AS 550 Fennec Light Military Helicopter

[oliver1013]

Sinisiguro ni pnoy na hindi mag kaka coup against him.

[uls]

They can't even give a straight press release which class of frigate...panay speculation. Maestrale and Soldati are 2 different class.

Hopefully they will release a "official" press release if they do sign this deal offl...

press releases go a long way

make the public think the govt is doing something

pag sinabi ng publiko walang ginagawa ang gobyerno...

ang sagot "eto na nga bibili na ng gamit!"