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    need your help tsikoteers.

    my niece is asking for help sa 'kin para sa History class niya. she asked me kung ano daw yung 3 kinds of alipin during Spanish Colonial period ng Pilipinas. I was only able to give two..
    1. aliping sa gigilid
    2. aliping namamahay
    3. ?


    if i remember correctly, nasa Noli o El Fili ata mga 'to.. i'm a bit rusty on these topics din kasi.

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    hardinero

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    AFAIK, dalawa lang - alipin saguguilid or slave workers at yung alipin namamahay or the household help.

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    Here's a link that could provide added info: http://www.geocities.com/nekhtet/philinks.html

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    AFAIK, dalawa lang talaga ang klase ng alipin nung mga panahon na 'yon.

    Pre-colonial Philippine society was comprised mainly of four groups:

    1. The nobility (datus)
    2. The freemen (maharlikas)
    3. The serfs (aliping namamahay)
    4. The slaves (aliping saguiguilid)

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    wala bang alipining namumuti noon? or white slavery in present times

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    wala bang alipining namumuti noon? or white slavery in present times
    :lol: - alangya......

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    baka yun na yung pangatlo.. hehehe

    AFAIK, dalawa nga lang talaga but she kept on insisting na tatlo daw. oh well..

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    Sino teacher niya? Watch out, they could be using those substandard school textbooks which are riddled with errors.

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    afaik, dalawa lang with the sagigilid being the lowest.



    di kaya aliping namemersonal? j / l

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    beats me on who the teacher is but I better mention this to her Dad though..

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    heto lang nakita ko sa google...

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    Different kinds, functions and levels of being alipin depending on the cause/gravity of indebtedness. There are half and quarter slaves. There are the napaaalipin (voluntary indenture) as opposed to naaalipin (foricible indenture). There are also various ways for the alipin to pay of his/her debt.

    Another claim consistent in all three books is the upward mobility of the alipin class. There are varied way for the alipin sa gigilid to graduate into the aliping namamahay or even higher. The aliping sa gigilid is considered the lowest of all ranks, literally stationed at the hearth. The aliping namamahay is one that pays tribute to his master, but can live in his own house and gain his own living tilling his own land.

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    walang sinasabing 3rd type?
    kawawa pala yung Filipinos during the Spanish era.

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    hmm...napaisip din ako dun ah! para nga yata 3 klase ng alipin during spanish time?!

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    Hindi ba Timawa?

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    Hindi kaya aliping binabahay?

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    sabi ng lola ko mga alupihan daw yan mga nagbabahay ng alipin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    AFAIK, dalawa lang talaga ang klase ng alipin nung mga panahon na 'yon.

    Pre-colonial Philippine society was comprised mainly of four groups:

    1. The nobility (datus)
    2. The freemen (maharlikas)
    3. The serfs (aliping namamahay)
    4. The slaves (aliping saguiguilid)
    5. Indio?!?

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    indio din yung hula ko eh.

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    Dalawa lang ang alam kong klase ng alipin during that period.....namamahay at saguiguilid,- the latter being the lower of the two. Hindi ito during the Spanish times,- it was before the Spaniards came into our shores....

    Unless, there was a change in the history text books.....

    3202:rainbow:

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    Iba yung Indio mga bossing. Indio was term given by Spaniards to natives (pure blooded Pinoys) during the Spanish era.

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what's the 3rd type of alipin during Spanish times?