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    Hmmmmm......

    Is this regarding our conversation a few weeks ago...

    I think I can get the shell, maybe the motor, and perhaps the batteries... but the build isn't up to the part that I can't figure out yet... the controller.

    Do I go all golf cart and run sans charge-controller, or do I still need it?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    (left to right) pot-box is like throttle, motor controller gives the right current to the motor based on throttle input, and the contactor is just a big relay (power switch to the high voltage circuit)




    the small relay gives power to a special terminal on the controller that turns it on

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Hmmmmm......

    Is this regarding our conversation a few weeks ago...
    Well, partly... but I didn't go out of my way to find an ev-beetle conversion just to prove my point that an old beetle would be a good start for an EV project. I just stumbled on it while I was checking on another topic of interest.


    I think I can get the shell, maybe the motor, and perhaps the batteries... but the build isn't up to the part that I can't figure out yet... the controller.

    Do I go all golf cart and run sans charge-controller, or do I still need it?
    Well, you can run the car with the throttle like a light switch, either full on or off. It would be interesting trying to park it in your driveway.

    So yes, you'll need a motor-controller to moderate the amount of power from the battery to the motor to have some sort of speed control over it.

    As for recharging, its mentioned that a proper battery charger will give the battery pack longer life since it won't experience over-charging.

    BTW, golf cart motors are too weak. You'll want something stronger.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; June 11th, 2010 at 12:47 PM.

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    And I'll definitely want a better charging strategy than golf-cart style "open-everything-up-and-plug-in"... or I'll be suffering the same issues as the electric bus operators at SM MOA suffered before they converted to gas.

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    Hmmm... controller packages from the US cost quite a bit... but just maybe I can get it cheaper if I have someone hand-carry the stuff down here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    And I'll definitely want a better charging strategy than golf-cart style "open-everything-up-and-plug-in"... or I'll be suffering the same issues as the electric bus operators at SM MOA suffered before they converted to gas.

    -

    Hmmm... controller packages from the US cost quite a bit... but just maybe I can get it cheaper if I have someone hand-carry the stuff down here...
    Hi, I am also interested in doing EV conversions and I agree the prices are too expensive. If we do it as a group then we can lower the cost through bulk purchase and economies of scale. I am thinking of starting an EV club.

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    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    XR3 DIY three-wheeled hybrid.



    http://www.rqriley.com/xr3.htm

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    Hi, I am also interested in doing EV conversions and I agree the prices are too expensive. If we do it as a group then we can lower the cost through bulk purchase and economies of scale. I am thinking of starting an EV club.
    o ayan, EV club daw

    electric car advocates put your money where your advocacy is -- MONEY DOWN

    buy electric motors and batteries to build your EVs

    anybody?

    come on open your wallets... don't be shy

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    just came across this video from youtube, an electric drag racer. actually makes sense 'cause an electric motor is supposed to give out huge torque which you will need in a drag race.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAYrsEOxqYc"]YouTube - Electric Car Drag Racing | Oregon Field Guide | OPB[/ame]

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    so whatever happened to the PH electric car scene?

    i'm really really tempted to get a cheap used suzuki alto, rip out the engine and put in electric bits

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    Hangat walang battery na mabilis ma charge at matagal magamit e hindi mag boboom ang e car.. sana may ma invent na at super affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishcom View Post
    Hangat walang battery na mabilis ma charge at matagal magamit e hindi mag boboom ang e car.. sana may ma invent na at super affordable.

    it's not gonna be super affordable coz batteries are expensive. not yet at least

    charging time for lithium-ion is very decent, especially the bottom half i.e. zero to around half-full can be charged very rapidly without detrimental effects

    cycle life and calendar life for li-ion is very good already. 8 years no problem. after that you could probably use it for home electricity storage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    it's not gonna be super affordable coz batteries are expensive. not yet at least

    charging time for lithium-ion is very decent, especially the bottom half i.e. zero to around half-full can be charged very rapidly without detrimental effects

    cycle life and calendar life for li-ion is very good already. 8 years no problem. after that you could probably use it for home electricity storage
    I think dapat mas mabilis pa. Parang standard petrol lang na kinakarga for a few minutes and can run for alot of hours.. it that happen im sure e car will boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishcom View Post
    I think dapat mas mabilis pa. Parang standard petrol lang na kinakarga for a few minutes and can run for alot of hours.. it that happen im sure e car will boom.

    yep that'll get invented eventually. but for now this is what we've got. for daily commutes a "slow" 2 or 3 hour charge at night is really good enough

    charging time isn't the limiting factor right now, it's COST. batteries are expensive. that's why Elon Musk is building the gigafactory

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    If you want to perform a conversion, you can talk to the guys at MD Juan who do the E-Jeep. I think they offer conversion packages. Or they did, at least the last time I asked. They've rolled out another series of E-Jeeps over the past year, so they may still have the parts for it.

    There are several other local groups building E-trikes and E-Jeeps. Some specialize in controllers, others motors, others batteries... the scene is small, but actually growing.

    One of the more interesting ones is this:
    https://www.facebook.com/etroev/

    Their "Agila" electric bike has a pretty powerful motor. 18hp equivalent, if I recall, and it's powered by lithium-ion batteris. Heavy-arse bike, but it's the fastest electric-bike I've ever ridden... easily equivalent in power to a 250cc or higher bike, with instant torque.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

Diy electric car