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    find it so amusing that ng nakita kong kotse ng pari magagara, as an example

    sto nino de meycauayan - pajero
    pari celebrate mass sa sm marilao 9am sunday - camry
    sa heritage homes loma de gato - lancer 2004
    sa sto nino de congressional near vicas market - altis

    share nyo iyong alam.

    sana something simple since they do not need very expensive cars.

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    hindi kaya mga donation ang mga yan?

    IMO, parishes cannot afford those kind of vehicles brand new.

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    ako wala pang nakikitang pari na naka-luxury car..pwedeng donation yan..pero diba nagvow sila ng pagiging simple?

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    Ang pari dito sa amin luma na pickup at suzuki samurai lang gamit. cguro it depends on the community they serve.

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    or kung hindi donation, baka may nagpahiram lang na parishoner

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    dami pala pera hehe

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    oh boy. just check out those schools being run by priests. you'll probably be surprised with their rides.

    some naman use the vehicle given to them by their families.

    makes me wonder whatever happened to their vow of poverty. Like...even the late Pope John Paul II declared in his will that he didn't leave any material posessions behind.
    Last edited by Altis6453; April 11th, 2005 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453
    oh boy. just check out those schools being run by priests. you'll probably be surprised with their rides. .
    when I was still in LSQC, they are using an old beat-up truck.

    in DLSU, they are using a varied mix of vehicles (since they are owned by the school and not by the brothers themselves).

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    Vow of povert means the priests themselves do not own property. The cars themselves are either donated or the property of the Order they belong to. Parang company car. So if priest A needs the car for this day then priest B needs to wait. It's a communal object.

    Image if your parents were dying and the priest who was supposed to give the sacrament for the gravely ill and the dying (formerly Last Rights) had to walk to your place from a distance of 50KM away. In that case wouldn't you want them to arrive as soon as possible? What if it is Sunday and the next Parish the priest has to celebrate mass for is another 50KM and he has 30 mins to travel wouldnt it better he has a car? This could extend to them having cell phones, TV, newspaper, radio, computers, electric fans, etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO
    Vow of povert means the priests themselves do not own property. The cars themselves are either donated or the property of the Order they belong to. Parang company car.

    Image if your parents were dying and the priest who was supposed to give the sacrament for the gravely ill and the dying (formerly Last Rights) had to walk to your place from a distance of 50KM away. In that case wouldn't you want them to arrive as soon as possible? What if it is Sunday and the next Parish the priest has to celebrate mass for is another 50KM and he has 30 mins to travel wouldnt it better he has a car? This could extend to them having cell phones, TV, newspaper, radio, computers, electric fans, etc etc.
    good if its the parish car, meaning it can be used for other purposes of the church. but, if you'll check, there are certain instances wherein the car is exclusively for the use of the priest.

    sure. the car is a convenience...like a celfone. then again, it shouldn't have to be ostentatious as to grab people's attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453
    good if its the parish car, meaning it can be used for other purposes of the church. but, if you'll check, there are certain instances wherein the car is exclusively for the use of the priest.

    sure. the car is a convenience...like a celfone. then again, it shouldn't have to be ostentatious as to grab people's attention.
    Probably the Order assigned the car to the priest because he's the only one who knew how to drive or he was the only priest. Probably the Order had enough cars to assign to each priest. There are a lot of wealthy Parishoners who often help out the Orders there priests belong too.

    What if some millionaire gave a Toyota Land Cruiser to an Order and paid for the maintenance cost & fuel should the Order refuse and get a Kia Pride? What if the millionaire gave the Land Cruiser because the area the priest goes too doesnt have paved roads should they still get the simplest car possible? Almost all the not so simple cars seen being used by priests are either donated or the property of the family of the priest. I know of one priest in Iloilo who drives a brand new CR-V that belongs to his brother.

    Ito should the Pope have ridden a regular FMC vehicle instead of the Popemobile? I know the Popemobile cost a lot to build as it is armord w/ all the regular security measures.

    The Pope even has a Ferrari in his garage, a gift from Scuderia Ferrari. Should the Pope get rid of the gift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO
    Probably the Order assigned the car to the priest because he's the only one who knew how to drive or he was the only priest. Probably the Order had enough cars to assign to each priest. There are a lot of wealthy Parishoners who often help out the Orders there priests belong too.

    What if some millionaire gave a Toyota Land Cruiser to an Order and paid for the maintenance cost & fuel should the Order refuse and get a Kia Pride? What if the millionaire gave the Land Cruiser because the area the priest goes too doesnt have paved roads should they still get the simplest car possible? Almost all the not so simple cars seen being used by priests are either donated or the property of the family of the priest. I know of one priest in Iloilo who drives a brand new CR-V that belongs to his brother.

    Ito should the Pope have ridden a regular FMC vehicle instead of the Popemobile? I know the Popemobile cost a lot to build as it is armord w/ all the regular security measures.

    The Pope even has a Ferrari in his garage, a gift from Scuderia Ferrari. Should the Pope get rid of the gift?
    It's like this...

    The Pope is not just the titular head of the Catholic Church but also the Head of State. Hence the need for a vehicle befitting his stature as such. I doubt if the Pope got a Ferrari because as he said in his last will and testament...he didn't leave behind any material possessions. In all probability HE DID GET RID OF IT.

    The point is this...it will be hard for priests to be believable or credible for his parishoners if he flaunts an expensive vehicle. No one is disputing that maybe even a 4x4 may be necessary for a priest to get from one place to another but certainly not an SUV. It immediately raises the suspicion that donations to the Church are being used for personal purposes instead of helping out the parish. besides, if the purpose of the vehicle is really to serve the parish then a more appropriate vehicle would be an AUV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453
    It's like this...

    The Pope is not just the titular head of the Catholic Church but also the Head of State. Hence the need for a vehicle befitting his stature as such. I doubt if the Pope got a Ferrari because as he said in his last will and testament...he didn't leave behind any material possessions. In all probability HE DID GET RID OF IT.

    The point is this...it will be hard for priests to be believable or credible for his parishoners if he flaunts an expensive vehicle. No one is disputing that maybe even a 4x4 may be necessary for a priest to get from one place to another but certainly not an SUV. It immediately raises the suspicion that donations to the Church are being used for personal purposes instead of helping out the parish. besides, if the purpose of the vehicle is really to serve the parish then a more appropriate vehicle would be an AUV.
    Even if he is the head of State shouldnt your perception on the vow of poverty also apply to the Pope? He is after all the Pope and people look at him as the example we Roman Catholics should all emulate.

    If an SUV is the only thing donated then why not use it? All the priest has to say is that the car was donated by some rich person. Even Christ had rich friends who helped him out once in awhile and yet no one took issue of it. I believe the religious Orders should maximize whatever is donated or God has provided. To do less would be sinful.

    I do recall a story in the New Testament where in Jesus Christ praise a poor woman who donated most of her possessions to a sinegog even if she owned so little as compared to a rich man who gave a lot and yet is a fraction of what he owns.

    What the you do with your money is your business. What the Church does with their money is theres. What the politicians do with our tax money is our business.
    Last edited by OTO; April 11th, 2005 at 04:24 PM.

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    'Yong Pari sa bayan ko sa probinsiya namin sa North, he owns a Toyota Hi-Ace Super Custom (converted).

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    yung sa mga INC, meron pang mga escorts na todo blinker and wangwang.
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    Sa school namin naka suzuki vitara.

    Puwede isama ang pastor?

    May nakita ako naka brand new CRV

    At yung isang kasama niya naka brand new honda city

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    Quote Originally Posted by usokpower
    Sa school namin naka suzuki vitara.

    Puwede isama ang pastor?

    May nakita ako naka brand new CRV

    At yung isang kasama niya naka brand new honda city
    wala naman vow of poverty ang mga pastors.

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    yung pinaka head/leader ng isang religious sector -born again movement yata, which originated in Davao, but now International na, and may show sa TV, started out by using a 100cc motorcycle. He personally bought it from my bestfriend way back mid 80's. My friend sold it for 5,000, which the buyer paid in cash... in 5.00 bills that is! After counting the money, color green na yung finger tips namin. Anyway, a few years after (mga 90's) he is often seen playing golf and now riding in a Land Cruiser 80 series. Lately, di ko na alam kung ano car niya.

    May alam din akong naka 70's na TOyota Crown nung 1997, tapos ngayon naka Jaguar na !

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    Quote Originally Posted by karl88
    yung pinaka head/leader ng isang religious sector -born again movement yata, which originated in Davao, but now International na, and may show sa TV, started out by using a 100cc motorcycle. He personally bought it from my bestfriend way back mid 80's. My friend sold it for 5,000, which the buyer paid in cash... in 5.00 bills that is! After counting the money, color green na yung finger tips namin. Anyway, a few years after (mga 90's) he is often seen playing golf and now riding in a Land Cruiser 80 series. Lately, di ko na alam kung ano car niya.

    May alam din akong naka 70's na TOyota Crown nung 1997, tapos ngayon naka Jaguar na !
    si apollo quiboloy yun. yup, mayaman na rin cya ngayon, dami na nya followers. may tv program pa cya.

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    sa pque sa tahanan village honda crv

    dito sa cavite mitsu lancer gsr

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