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  1. Join Date
    Sep 2003
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    #1
    mga peeps,

    me nangutang sa kin ng pera since kilala ko naman at tiwala ako so pinagbigyan ko 40K+ pesos.

    In good faith ang pangungutang at once na rin nagbayad sa previous utang na ginawa eh pinautang ko uli at walang kasulatan or katibayan. half a year na di pa nagpakita nor abiso na babayaran talaga ako. Pinabarangay ko sya, pero ang anak ang sumipot dahil nasa probinsya na ang nangutang. Iyong anak naman daw di alam iyong inutang samantalang kya nangutang ang nanay nya eh para sa business di umano na itatayo.

    Ang hirap nito pinautang na sila without interest o kolateral basta bayaran lang in 3 months eh pinagtaguan pa ko.

    Ano gagawin ko, gusto kong bigyan ng leksyon eh.

  2. Join Date
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    #2
    !*#$%^...daming dvd na mabibili niyan ah..

    kasama na ata sa buhay ng tao yung mautangan na di nagbabayad!...may pinautang din ako mismong kapit bahay pa namin!!!...parang di ako nakikita at pagod na rin ako sa kakasingil...pero nung panahon na nang-utang sa akin...!*#$% umiiyak pa sa harapan ko!!! 30k din yun!!!

    Haayyyyy!!!

    pero dati di ako naniniwala sa "karma"...nakikita kong lalong naghihirap yung may utang sa akin..na Karma na ata!.

  3. Join Date
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    #3
    sa halagang 40K medyo alanganin yan na ipa-demanda...estafa or something like that lang naman ang maikakaso mo diyan. Ang mahirap pa diyan, kailangan me testigo ka rin to prove that the transaction really occured. Although pag naprove mo naman na pinautang mo nga, siguradong mananalo ka kasi yung transaction ninyo was done "IN GOOD FAITH" kaya walang kasulatan necessary.

    the question is, is it really worth the trouble? Kung kaya mong kitain ang P40K naman, huwag mo nang singilin....pera lang yan....hindi naman nadadala yan pagnamatay ang tao....

  4. Join Date
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    #4
    qman, be prepared to let go of your 40k. Wala kasing katibayan na pinautang mo yung tao....

  5. Join Date
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    May pinautang ako na $1.5k at mahigit one year na hindi parin nagbabayad at puro pangako, napuno na ako sinabi ko magkita na lang tayo sa court. Hindi nagtagal nagbayad din. Kamag-anak ni 'Juday' nasa lahi na yata nilang mangutang. tsk..tsk..tsk :mad:

  6. Join Date
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    oo nga sir wildthing alanganin ang 40K .. and wala namang black and white.. alam mo naman ang mga tao makakalimutin pagdating sa bayaran hehehe...

  7. Join Date
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    #7
    A rule to follow is assume you are giving the money away when you lend money. Only lend what you have in excess.

    There are side effects when people don't pay. It will occupy your mind, you can't concentrate on work, etc.

  8. Join Date
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    #8
    konsensyahin mo kya.. try mo lang.. sabihin mo masma yan... paparusahan ka ng Diyos :D

  9. Join Date
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    #9
    tama sila. prepare to let go of your 40k. alang documentations yung transaction nyo eh.

  10. Join Date
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    #10
    if it a well earned money, letting go of it is really hard. 40k ata yun and sa hirap ng buhay ngayon - anoh!!!!.

    PEROOOOOOOOO..........

    kung talagang sobra naman on your part then let go, isipin mo na lang na donation yun for tsikots GEB. - tsaka sa tingin ko magbabayad yun sabi mo kasi kilala mo. huwag mo na lang hintayin, divert your attention to other things. sisirain lang nyan ang diskarte mo sa lahat kung lagi iisipin.

    just a friendly advice!!!!!!peace...heheheheh

  11. Join Date
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    correct me if im wrong, but afaik he doest have any legal obligation to you since there is the absent of a contract.
    it will only be a NATURAL obligation which means that he knows in his conscience that he owe u that amount but u cant force him to pay you, all you can do is wait that he will be enlightened and remember to pay his debt to you

  12. Join Date
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    #12
    i 2nd the motion!!!

  13. Join Date
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    #13
    kulitin mo na lang siya.
    inform his family about his utang to you. (ipagkalat mo na may utang siyang dapat bayaran.)
    kung sakaling magkita kayo, utuin mo sa settlement, make him sign a promissory note that he'll pay you (maski 4 gives).
    this note will be your contract na and can be used for any legal action (sa baranggay muna syempre) in the future.
    goodluck qman!

  14. FrankDrebin Guest
    #14
    I you really want to get your money why not try the "hugot/hatak" system? It may be too hard for them but "Umutang sila tapos ayaw magbayad! Kunin ko yang kotse mo!".

    Anyway, ganyan kasi ang ginagawa ng ermats ko kapag ayaw magbayad ng mga customers nila. hehehe.

  15. Join Date
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    #15
    i agree with zero, siguro naman mahihiya un pag kinausap mo ng masinsinan, make him sign a contact this time that he will pay u within a specified time and in what terms.

    if he refused, u really cant do anything about it

    believe in karma, ive lost a lot of things n money already, but i believe that there more good things coming for my family.

  16. Join Date
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    #16
    second the motion with gretz..

  17. Join Date
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    #17
    First, I'm not a lawyer.

    AFAIK kahit wala kayong written contract pwede mo syang kasuhan ng estafa.

    I remember watching a TV show and the lawyer cited a previous court ruling on a case similar as yours, pwede daw mag sampa ng estafa yung nagpa-utang kahit walang written contract. If I remember correctly, a verbal promise made is as good as a written contract, or something to that effect.

    The problem you will encounter is that once you take the asshole into court, it will be his word against yours.

    Now take into consideration the fee that you will pay your lawyer, the hassle of filing and going to court, and that will probably cost you more 40K.

    Ngayon kung gusto mo syang takutin, kasuhan mo. IMHO lang po.

  18. Join Date
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    #18
    hmmm the best thing to do is to consult a lawyer first

  19. Join Date
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    #19
    Bat di mo kaya kausapin, puntahan, alamin mo lang kung anong plano niya. Baka mahiya dahil sa kabaitan mo instead of showing hostility. Baka lang naman...

  20. Join Date
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    #20
    nakakainis talaga yang mga ganyan...

    ANG KAPAL NG MUKHA! kahit magbayad pa sya, wala na yung tiwala tulad ng dati...



    ser qman, pautang naman...kahit P40K lang...tatayo lang ako ng negosyo, babayaran din kita after 3 months..PROMISE.

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