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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    do you think Asi Taulava's legit Fil-am or a Fil-Sham?

    quoting a communiqué sent by the US Department of Homeland Security to the NBI, for an initial answer:

    "Official records indicate subjects (Taulava and his mother) are permanent US residents. Records from the US Department of Homeland Security showed Pauline Taulava was born Pauline Mateeaki Taulava on July 13, 1946, in Vaot'u, Taongatapu, Tonga. Her father, Semisi Mateeaki, and mother, Maveti Mateeaki, were also natives of Tonga. US Immigration and Naturalization Service records showed her alien registration number in the US as A35-046-350.

    "Asi's records in the US showed he was born March 2, 1973. His father, Pauliasi, was born in Pulupaki, Tonga."

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    Fil-Sham indeed!
    Probably, Money Pangilinan is just protecting his number one player in Talk&Text team?

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    I dont think he's Pinoy. But IMO, dapat paglaruin sa PBA. Masyado kasing stiff ang setup eh. Ayaw nilang gayahin ang Club Football where internationals are allowed to play as long as teams can afford them.

  4. FrankDrebin Guest
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    ...gawin na lang na Import.

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    Fil Sham si Asi for sure, naalala ko dati dinala pa niya dito yung nanay niya ni hindi ito marunong o maka intindi man lang ng ating native dialect tagalog man o bisaya so napaka imposibleng born filipina ito. Buti pa si Eric Menk yung nanay niya alam mo talagang filipina

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    #6
    tingin ko fil-sham. yung nanay niya mukha talagang hindi pinay.

    ang asar lang, kasi if he's not legit then a true filipino is being deprived of the opportunity to play, who may be a breadwinner and loses the chance to maybe, uplift the life of his family. si asi , sa tonga ang padala ng pera.

    personal opinion lang po.

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    #7
    but it doesn't necessarily mean that the same big bucks that asi is plowing now would go to a true blue pinoy if proven that asi is a fil-sham... kaya ganun din kalaki ang kita niya is because he can dominate the game... magiging ganun din ang kikitain ng isang true blue pinoy IF he can also dominate the game...

    hindi automatic na kesyo fil-sham si asi (kung talagang fil-sham nga) ay yung kinikita nya ay mapupunta sa ibang true blue pinoy.. depende pa rin sa talent ng papalit sa kanya...

    all in all sasakit lang lalo ang bulsa ng mga teams ng pba kung ganito lagi.. even with the salary cap which they go around din on some occasions... and guess what.. all these costs.. if they don't recover from the league itself??.. they pass on to the consumers in the products they carry...

    it's all business...

    another side effect is that effectively ang career ng mga pba players become shorter dahil sa mas marami na ang mas bata at "mas mahusay" ang sumusubok sa pba... kaya tuloy the San Miguel group can form it's own league of ex PBA players who tour around the countryside promoting SMB...

    the price that have to be paid for stiff competition...

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    #8
    Originally posted by sauman
    Fil Sham si Asi for sure, naalala ko dati dinala pa niya dito yung nanay niya ni hindi ito marunong o maka intindi man lang ng ating native dialect tagalog man o bisaya so napaka imposibleng born filipina ito.
    yeah i remember he brought her mom here in the Philippines. She was around 6'4 in height. La pa ata ako nakita pinay with that height ;) Dapat pa naturalize na lang si Asi since dito na naman wife and kid niya and very much at home na siya.

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    fil-sham siya.

    and he has no reason to play in the PBA,

    why? because of the rules and by-laws of the pba.

    tama sila na hindi paglaruin si compton, yan ang rules eh, change the rules first if they want them to play, other than that, stick to the RULES!

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    #10
    I think we should also consider the other teams with doubtful "fil-foreigners":

    1. Davonn Harp - Red Bull
    2. Mick Pennisi - Red Bull
    3. Rudy Hatfield - Coke
    4. Raffy Reavis - Coke
    5. Dorian Pena (?) - SMB
    6. Ali Peek - Alaska
    7. John Arigo - Alaska

    Do they really have Filipino blood? If not, they're not legit.
    Last edited by Altis6453; June 2nd, 2004 at 04:46 PM.

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    #11
    Taulava presents new evidence to boost claim
    (PhilStar)


    Talk n’ Text yesterday urged PBA commissioner Noli Eala to immediately lift the suspension of its player Paul Asi Taulava following confirmation of the Tongan government that the 6-9 cager is a Filipino citizen.





    Talk n’ Text yesterday urged PBA commissioner Noli Eala to immediately lift the suspension of its player Paul Asi Taulava following confirmation of the Tongan government that the 6-9 cager is a Filipino citizen.

    "There is no more doubt that Asi is a Filipino as affirmed for the nth time by the new documents he submitted to the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) yesterday," said TnT spokesperson Ray Espinosa.

    Taulava, through counsel Eduardo Francisco, submitted to NBI director Reynaldo Wycoco documents certified by the government of Tonga and authenticated by the Philippine Honorary Consul General to Auckland, New Zealand,.

    These included the cager’s birth certificate showing his mother Pauline is a Filipino citizen at the time of his birth; the death certificate of Taulava’s grandmother, the former Ana Hernandez, showing she was born a Filipina and died a Filipina; and a certification that Pauline came to Tonga as a Filipino citizen and was naturalized on Sept. 8, 1976 as a Tonga national, well after giving birth to Taulava in 1973.

    "The PBA commissioner’s office, for a long time now, has unjustly denied Taulava his contractual rights to play for TNT, in effect denying him his basic human right to provide for his family," said Espinosa.

    "With these documents from Tonga which bolstered a 2001 Department of Justice (DOJ) ruling that Taulava is a Filipino, the PBA no longer has any excuse to continue the suspension of Taulava," he added.

    However, Wycoco said they would not withdraw the case against Taulava despite the presentation of new evidence and would conduct its own further investigation.

    "We would forward to the DOJ the documents for their appreciation while the NBI will conduct its own further verification," said Wycoco.

    The NBI last year filed falsification of public documents and perjury charges against Taulava before the DOJ. The NBI Interpol office based its case on the document forwarded by the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

    The Taulava family previously applied for residency in the US wherein the document reportedly showed that Taulava’s mother was a Tongan national.

    But Francisco said he does not see any inconsistency in the documents they submitted and those furnished by the US government.

    Taulava reportedly left the country last March and returned only last April 30. He went to Tonga and New Zealand to secure evidence.

    "It was a very expensive trip, but it was worth it. My mom was a Filipina but I was not raised here. It was a time for me to trace my roots," said Taulava.

    "It’s been a very long six months for me to be suspended from the PBA. I hope I would be given the chance to represent the country again," added Taulava.

    Franciso said the official communication from the government of Tonga should once and for all end the citizenship issue of Taulava.

    "Mr. Taulava has been aching to play not only for Talk n Text but for the Philippine basketball team as well in the 2005 Southeast Asian Games which the country is hosting," Francisco said.

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    #12
    Originally posted by zero
    Fil-Sham indeed!
    Probably, Money Pangilinan is just protecting his number one player in Talk&Text team?
    cant agree with you more:stupid:

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    #13
    i think john arigo is not a fil-sham coz may kamaganak ata siyang pari sa cebu...

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    KG21,

    I stand corrected then.

    What about another fil-am, Rob Wainwright of Coke or is it Shell? Is he legit?

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    tiga coke po si rob wainwright.. d ko lang alam kung legit sya or not

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    Originally posted by pajerokid
    I dont think he's Pinoy. But IMO, dapat paglaruin sa PBA. Masyado kasing stiff ang setup eh. Ayaw nilang gayahin ang Club Football where internationals are allowed to play as long as teams can afford them.


    if that's the case then konti lang true Filipinos will be able to play. They'll just recruit international players which is, btw, are far more better players. Taller, more athletic! Of course mas masaya kasi we'll see more dunks and alleyops!

    Imagine a team composed 10 imported players in their rotation! edi pati ibang teams gagaya narin kasi lugi naman sila. So in the end wala nang matitirang Fil to play the game. yet we call this Philippine Basketball Associaton.

    peace~

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    #17
    i agree aith KC21, having 2 imports in the team is enough

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    #18
    IMHO, di pinoy si Asi. Peke mga papel noon

  19. #19
    Here we go again...

  20. Join Date
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    #20
    HOnestly, who gives a crap? 80% of the "news" on TV and the papers are so tabloid trivial, kaya napakaignorante karamihan ng tao dahil walang matitinong news mga media....

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