Mazda E2000 Power Van, what can you say?

[bogart]

I'm browsing the forums and found not much details regarding this particular van.

Any tsikot peeps who had an experience with this van? Particularly the 1997/98 model.

Any pros and cons?

TIA!

[M]

masikip. definitely masikip.
power-wise, it has good response ... until half-loaded anyway, full load and it will slow down. note "slow" and not crawl like the toyota lite ace. i think yung 97/98 were the ones with a cooler (refrigerator) already.

[SunTzu]

masikip. definitely masikip.

i beg to disagree. we have E2000 van courtesy of francisco motors. pag nasa labas ka mukhang masikip talaga pero pag pasok mo sa loob magugulat ka at maluwag pala.

engine power is not quite good compared to its competitors. yet a good transporter.

[M]

i beg to disagree. we have E2000 van courtesy of francisco motors. pag nasa labas ka mukhang masikip talaga pero pag pasok mo sa loob magugulat ka at maluwag pala.

engine power is not quite good compared to its competitors. yet a good transporter.

in the passenger area maybe, but i'm on the heavy side and i find the driver's seat quite small. our lite ace is just slightly more comfortable.

[SunTzu]

but i'm on the heavy side and i find the driver's seat quite small.

i understand sir.

[M]

i understand sir.

[AG4]

Other than its so-so performance when loaded with passengers, the E2000 Power Van like most forward control vans(flat fronted vans) lack a proper front crumple zone, In other words, its not that safe by modern standards.

[niky]

But by asian van standards, it's okay. Definitely better than an L300. My cousin's E2000 has so many dents it's not funny.

Parts are not as easy to find as L300, but they're not impossible, and not that expensive. My cousin's E2000 is almost fifteen years old and still running. Only major repair (besides usual alternator and AC repair) was a broken water pump a few years ago... and despite that, the engine has never been opened.

Power when there are just a few passengers is great, especially compared to small capacity diesel vans. The E2000 might get up to 160 if you really feel brave (don't know if it'll push 170... might be too "square" for high speed wind resistance) and the engine feels athletic. It's also torquey for a gas engine. It's kind of heavier than the L300, so it feels a bit more stable at speed.

The seats in the back aren't all that great, but there's more room than in most vans... definitely a bit more than the L300. Feels humongous inside, but kind of cheap. Never liked the AC, but remember, the one I've driven is ancient.

I don't know much about fuel-efficiency. I'll ask my cuz and get back to you on that one.

[BlackPrince]

I bet the next question would be : 'HOw much does it cost today (mdl 97/98)?".

Thanks.

[bogart]

The E2000 Power van i've looked at has only two rows of bench type seating. The first row swivels 180deg and could fully recline na parang kama.

Bale 2-3-3 yung seating arrangement nya.

Ranged against the same year model of a vanette which would you choose?

[marv0083]

owner din ako ng e2000 masikip ang driver seat nya dahil sa seat belt ehh nag proprotrude. not that fuel efficient bat responsive siya. sa aerodynamics have to say 120 kph and it would start shaking and gets harder to control at high speed. at medyo poor ata ang air ventilation ng engine nya kaya prone din sa overheat aside from that reliable naman.

[niky]

Given that, I'm normal height, at 5'5" and I weigh about 200 lbs. I find the driver's seat okay.

Basta, the rear is huge. There are variants with 3-3-3, with the first two passenger rows with the fold up side seat, and they have double sliding doors (very useful when unloading). But the AC isn't that great... though what van has good AC?

The high speed shaking might just be for your example. The one I drove had blown front shocks and did just fine at 150. :lol:

[KG21]

we have one before, a 1996 model, may extra 2 seats pa sya sa likod patagilid ang upo nyo at face to face, engine is good, 2.0 gas.

[OTEP]

It shares a lot of common parts with the Kia Besta so parts hunting becomes easier.
My friend used to have one (traded in for a Starex). It was 2-3-3+2 seating. The '+2' being two extra tiny jump seats in the luggage area.

It had nifty touches like rotating center bench, dual sliding doors, all power features, etc.

They're ok but I'd still take a Vanette over it.

[AG4]

But by asian van standards, it's okay.

It depends if this is ok for you...
Here is the common problem with flat fronted vans.

the driver and front passenger's legs happen to be part of the vehicle's crumple zone.

After seeing two accidents... I changed my mind about these flat fronted vans, no wonder many other countries are switching to minivans with hoods/front ends.

Maybe a 2nd hand Revo or Starex might be a better choice.

[OTEP]

Most forward control vans are also required to meet the 40kph flat barrier crash test imposed on cars. They are not the safest modes of transportation but they have gone a long way since the VW Kombi/L300 VV days.

The E2000 has a true 2.5mph front bumper, a Y-shaped shock absorbing frame (yung parang accordion) under the front floor, impact absorbing steering column, ELR seatbelts, recessed dashboard (to increase space between dash and occupant) among its list of safety equipment.

The MB100 goes one step further by placing the engine AHEAD of the front passengers and using it as an impact absorbing structure:

[badkuk]

sir otep, wala namang "egg cooking" properties sa MB100, ala L300?

[OTEP]

I drive one up to 12 hours straight. Hindi pa naman prito ang itlog ko. hehehe.

The engine is not under the seats, it's a true front engine design. Pagbukas mo ng hood sa harap, you will see the engine. Unlike sa Pregio, Hi-Ace, etc. na coolant jug at jack lang ang laman.

Para siyang E-150 na may 'doghouse' engine cover between the front passengers. The engine penetrates into the cabin up to the driver's knee level only.

[niky]

Oo nga, no... didn't think of that... but as I recall, the one thing I liked about driving the MB100 is that it was so easy to switch hot-seats with your co-driver, as there was so much room up front. (Pass-through yung gitna ng front seats, like in the E150) Three guys could drive that thing forever without stopping to open the doors.

Otherwise, it was just the same-old-same-old diesel van.

The E2000 is really stiff, and has a real bumper up front, unlike the L300. If you see the condition of my uncle's van, you'd be shocked by how many bumps there are. The metal's really thick, and it has stood up to being sideswipes and T-boned by boneheaded motorists in both Laguna and Cavite. Admittedly, it won't hold up to a high speed impact as well as a sedan would, but it's solid.

Still, the gas engine is both the best and worst part of this vehicle. Best because it gives good punch for such a small gasoline unit, worst, because it isn't diesel. But AFAIK, running costs and gasoline consumption aren't exorbitant.

[bogart]

Hey thanks for all the replies.

Now i can't make my mind between a 96 Vanette and a late 97 E2000 which comes with a colored tv inside.

Well, esep-esep muna!