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    Hi guys.

    I am planning to change my tires to 205/50/16 though either Bridgestone RE002, Goodyear Eagle F1 Directional 5 and Michelin Pilot Sport 3 are available that fits my budget (though the PS3 are really stretching it).

    What would you guys recommend? Its more of a daily drive with occasional track use. Really torn between the 3.

    Also comparing, iba iba rin talaga ang laki ng sidewall. Would anyone know kung ano ang pinaka rounded type or smallest in diameter between the 3? I know lahat sila 205/50 but not all are accurate or spot-on. Iba ay too bulky, iba naman ay tama lang.

    Appreciate your feedback! Thanks! :D

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    For occasional track use I would go with something with treadwear rating below 200 at least, traction grade of A, and temp grade A. I currently have Bridgestone RE-11 in front 205/55/16 with 180 treadwear rating. But the new ones have 200. If I were to change them I'd go with S-02 rated at 140. Haven't tried either Goodyears or Michelins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing View Post
    For occasional track use I would go with something with treadwear rating below 200 at least, traction grade of A, and temp grade A. I currently have Bridgestone RE-11 in front 205/55/16 with 180 treadwear rating. But the new ones have 200. If I were to change them I'd go with S-02 rated at 140. Haven't tried either Goodyears or Michelins...
    Thanks for the input sir! Though i think that even 200-300 threadwear will be okay for me since baka super bilis naman maubos pag 100-200.

    If you have the choice between the 3 tires i mentioned, which will you go for? :D

    Thanks again!

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    Tires are the most important item in your car when on the track. They are the ones that keep you on the road and not the dirt/gravel/barrier. You can get higher tread wear rating if longevity is your primary concern. Just don't expect too much grip/higher lap times. You will have to adjust your turn in speeds.

    If you can, get dedicated track tires and wheels so you can have long lasting road tires. Again I have not tried any of those tires you mentioned. It looks like re002s are ROW products and I can't find specs online. I haven't driven a car that has them so I can't give you real world feedback. Maybe other formers can jump in. You can certainly Google any reviews but take them with a grain of salt. I see some YouTube videos too. Good luck.

    Judging on looks alone based on images online I'd go for the Bridgestones, but if price is the main criteria I'd get the cheapest of the three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing View Post
    Tires are the most important item in your car when on the track. They are the ones that keep you on the road and not the dirt/gravel/barrier. You can get higher tread wear rating if longevity is your primary concern. Just don't expect too much grip/higher lap times. You will have to adjust your turn in speeds.

    If you can, get dedicated track tires and wheels so you can have long lasting road tires. Again I have not tried any of those tires you mentioned. It looks like re002s are ROW products and I can't find specs online. I haven't driven a car that has them so I can't give you real world feedback. Maybe other formers can jump in. You can certainly Google any reviews but take them with a grain of salt. I see some YouTube videos too. Good luck.

    Judging on looks alone based on images online I'd go for the Bridgestones, but if price is the main criteria I'd get the cheapest of the three.
    Yeah i do agree that the tires are the biggest factor when tracking. Also safety will be also based on the tires.

    Regarding prices, the Bridgestones will be the cheapest among the three. What i just don't like about them are their sidewalls. It looks like to bulky for the profile that i wanted comparing to others.

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    For track, you want tires that have a good mix of grip and breakaway predictability, and not exactly the stickiest rubber you can find.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Bridgestone for me. Best grip . Parang eraser lang,but it depends on how you drive

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    i'm a regular at the track, our group usually go once or twice a month and tried a lot of tires already. i'd recommend re002 for your needs, it's great both in the track and daily use. for track use though i find the re-11a the best though then achilles 123s, actually the 123s has better grip than the re-11a especially when there's only about 30-40% thread left. the only problem with the 123s is it's not really great for daily use, it's noisy and doesn't do well when it rains but for the price i won't really complain.

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    On the contrary, I've heard Michelin tires last way longer than any tire out there. It's downside is, magsasawa ka sa kaka-antay mapudpod parang mapalitan

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    Been using Michelin sa truck, so far ok ang performance nya compare sa Bridgestone. As long as new stock yung ibibigay.
    Medyo mas mahal pero for my use sulit na rin

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    The stock michelin that came with my car dati lasted five years. Replaced them when one of the tires had exposed steel wires na. Ganun katibay yung michelins. I dont know bakit sinabi ng manager na hindi suited sa tropical countries yung michelin, yung din ang gamit sa india and thailand.

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    i'd favor that which is locallly manufactured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i'd favor that which is locallly manufactured.
    Yokohoma.

    there's no "best brand" really as each tyre will also vary depending on the model and market. I've encountered POS tyres from most manufacturers already (the old Bridgestone Duelers h/t, Goodyear Eagle NCT 3, Yokohoma S306, the old Dunlop LM702, one of the old Michelin Energy tyres, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i'd favor that which is locallly manufactured.
    Yokohoma.

    there's no "best brand" really as each tyre will also vary depending on the model and market. I've encountered POS tyres from most manufacturers already (the old Bridgestone Duelers h/t, Goodyear Eagle NCT 3, Yokohoma S306, the old Dunlop LM702, one of the old Michelin Energy tyres, etc.)

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    I have replaced after 10 years and ~50,000KM the stock tyre that came with my car; it was GoodYear NCT5. I was looking for the same brand and model pero phase out na daw. Now I have Goodyear Accenture. Let's see how far it will go kung sino mas tatagal, additional 10years on the car or few years of the tyre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ch0k0y View Post
    I have replaced after 10 years and ~50,000KM the stock tyre that came with my car; it was GoodYear NCT5. I was looking for the same brand and model pero phase out na daw. Now I have Goodyear Accenture. Let's see how far it will go kung sino mas tatagal, additional 10years on the car or few years of the tyre.
    Wag mo paabutin ng 10 years gulong mo.
    Dapat 4 years after tire manufacturing date palit na yan. Delikado na pag masyadong matagal

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    there are many factors affecting tire reliability. but its age is one of the easiest things to determine.
    are we giving tire age the right amount of credit, or are we giving it too much credit, because we do not know whom to give the other credits to...?
    consider also that some of these researches are based in temperate locales, or in countries where the speed limit is what you like..
    scanning the internet, the age range of safety varies... write-ups indicate as young as 4 years to as old as 8, even 10 years, depending on other conditions.
    in the philippines, how many of us change tires at age 5 years?
    btw, michelin phils warranties its tires for 6 years, according to #12 above.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 4th, 2015 at 02:43 PM.

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    BTW, which tire company was acquired by China recently, is it Michelin or Pirelli?

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    pirelli ...Their p7 is good too.

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    Patay na so Pirelli

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    Pirelli is owned by china na. So expect it to be stamped Pirelli P zero- made in China hehe

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