Kia Sedona 2.2 Diesel - Is this best minivan? Is it better than Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna?

[CharlieMin]

Today, we have a minivan from Kia. Yes, we have 2019 Kia Sedona (AKA Kia Carnivals in Korea) with 2.2L Diesel mated to 8 speed automatic. Well, does Kia have what it takes to compete against rivals such as Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna, in mini ? Let’s see

2.2L Diesel
202hp*3,800rpm | 325lb.ft.*1,750~2,750
8-Speed Automatic | FF

Competition: Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna

Kia Sedona 2.2 Diesel - Is this best minivan? Is it better than Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna? - YouTube

[Dockie20]

Planning to buy either the LX 11 seater or EX 11 seater. Ano kaya effect ng COVID sa prices ng mga sasakyan? Magmumura kaya or mas mamahal? Balita ko may lalabas na bagong 2021 model nitong 3rd quarter ng 2020. Antayin kong lumabas yung bago para makakuha ng malaking discount sa lumang model.
221 Kia Carnival Spotted Testing Overseas. Comes With A New Interior And Dashboard - ZigWheels

[StockEngine]

Planning to buy either the LX 11 seater or EX 11 seater. Ano kaya effect ng COVID sa prices ng mga sasakyan? Magmumura kaya or mas mamahal? Balita ko may lalabas na bagong 2021 model nitong 3rd quarter ng 2020. Antayin kong lumabas yung bago para makakuha ng malaking discount sa lumang model.
221 Kia Carnival Spotted Testing Overseas. Comes With A New Interior And Dashboard - ZigWheels

Ayala employees will get an extra discount. Question is, how big is Ayala willing to lose to dispose the stockyard

[Dockie20]

Ayala employees will get an extra discount. Question is, how big is Ayala willing to lose to dispose the stockyard

I agree. Sana 250K level (wishful thinking). I can't think of any other vehicle na swak sa family as this one. Senior citizen and kids ang majority na sakay. Hindi sya kasing hirap sakyan as compared to SUV's or even vans. Not to mention the space. Ang mahal lang talaga...

[17Sphynx17]

Planning to buy either the LX 11 seater or EX 11 seater. Ano kaya effect ng COVID sa prices ng mga sasakyan? Magmumura kaya or mas mamahal? Balita ko may lalabas na bagong 2021 model nitong 3rd quarter ng 2020. Antayin kong lumabas yung bago para makakuha ng malaking discount sa lumang model.
221 Kia Carnival Spotted Testing Overseas. Comes With A New Interior And Dashboard - ZigWheels

Maganda talaga for me ang carnival as a family hauler, for kids and senior na kasama mo.
Pero yang 11 seater naman nila joke na 4th row, unless gusto mo putulan ng mga paa pasahero mo.
Sana binenta nila base trim na wala yung 4th row na yun, 8 to 9 seater (9 kung mapapayat or bata yung sa bench) kung gawin nila bench yung 3rd row, mapababa nila sa mas practical price siguru yun.

Hindi ko maintindihan kasi strategy ng ayala sa kia ph. Bakit ba pinipilit 11 seater e wala naman ata target market na school bus o uv express ang carnival. Wala naman na din tax exemption for more than x seats so wala talagang point except numbers on paper lang sa capacity.

[Dockie20]

Maganda talaga for me ang carnival as a family hauler, for kids and senior na kasama mo.
Pero yang 11 seater naman nila joke na 4th row, unless gusto mo putulan ng mga paa pasahero mo.
Sana binenta nila base trim na wala yung 4th row na yun, 8 to 9 seater (9 kung mapapayat or bata yung sa bench) kung gawin nila bench yung 3rd row, mapababa nila sa mas practical price siguru yun.

Hindi ko maintindihan kasi strategy ng ayala sa kia ph. Bakit ba pinipilit 11 seater e wala naman ata target market na school bus o uv express ang carnival. Wala naman na din tax exemption for more than x seats so wala talagang point except numbers on paper lang sa capacity.

Saw the review na halos wala na ngang space yung 4th row. hahaha. Ang kagandahan lang yung its folds flat so most likely for bagahe na lang sya pero it's nice to know na may option for 11 seats kung kinakailangan (wala nga lang angalan sa leg room.

Do you own one? Sirain ba? Wala pa kasi akong experience with Kia. Toyota since birth. Hahaha.

[17Sphynx17]

Saw the review na halos wala na ngang space yung 4th row. hahaha. Ang kagandahan lang yung its folds flat so most likely for bagahe na lang sya pero it's nice to know na may option for 11 seats kung kinakailangan (wala nga lang angalan sa leg room.

Do you own one? Sirain ba? Wala pa kasi akong experience with Kia. Toyota since birth. Hahaha.

Uncle owned the first gen kia carens launched here back in 2009 to 2011 if memory serves me right. He owned it for 5 years before selling it. It was serviced by kia erod. Start was a breeze to own but kia erod always didnt have parts to fix things which was a pain as that car was really wonderful for a small family. I had driven the carens and the vgt montero doesnt hold a candle when it comes to power delivery. Shame on the maintenance front for that car but when it worked, two thumbs up for that car.

A friend of mine owned 3 generations of the carnival, always replacing the carnival with the next gen. They also have it serviced at kia erod. They have backup cars though so they can handle some down time. They still use their carnival til now.

For them, always similar issues, suspension failing within 2 years, turbo not lasting 3 years before having issues.

I still love the carnival and just passing the time if after sales can improve along with a more practical base model being launched.

Hopefully, ayala can fix it. Am not one to pursue mich on parts outside dealer for a car less than 5 years old.

[Dockie20]

Uncle owned the first gen kia carens launched here back in 2009 to 2011 if memory serves me right. He owned it for 5 years before selling it. It was serviced by kia erod. Start was a breeze to own but kia erod always didnt have parts to fix things which was a pain as that car was really wonderful for a small family. I had driven the carens and the vgt montero doesnt hold a candle when it comes to power delivery. Shame on the maintenance front for that car but when it worked, two thumbs up for that car.

A friend of mine owned 3 generations of the carnival, always replacing the carnival with the next gen. They also have it serviced at kia erod. They have backup cars though so they can handle some down time. They still use their carnival til now.

For them, always similar issues, suspension failing within 2 years, turbo not lasting 3 years before having issues.

I still love the carnival and just passing the time if after sales can improve along with a more practical base model being launched.

Hopefully, ayala can fix it. Am not one to pursue mich on parts outside dealer for a car less than 5 years old.

I highly appreciate the input. Maraming salamat po.

[valskie01]

Saw the review na halos wala na ngang space yung 4th row. hahaha. Ang kagandahan lang yung its folds flat so most likely for bagahe na lang sya pero it's nice to know na may option for 11 seats kung kinakailangan (wala nga lang angalan sa leg room.

Do you own one? Sirain ba? Wala pa kasi akong experience with Kia. Toyota since birth. Hahaha.

Korean car tops reliability

219 Initial Quality Study (IQS) | J.D. POWER

https://**************/market-news/w...ar-brands-6699

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[yapoy86]

Korean car tops reliability

219 Initial Quality Study (IQS) | J.D. POWER

https://**************/market-news/w...ar-brands-6699

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Matibay na gawa nila since lumabas yung carens at picanto...

Yung carens namin 2008 model wala naging major problem till now na nasa friend ko na

[diehard]

Maganda talaga for me ang carnival as a family hauler, for kids and senior na kasama mo.
Pero yang 11 seater naman nila joke na 4th row, unless gusto mo putulan ng mga paa pasahero mo.
Sana binenta nila base trim na wala yung 4th row na yun, 8 to 9 seater (9 kung mapapayat or bata yung sa bench) kung gawin nila bench yung 3rd row, mapababa nila sa mas practical price siguru yun.

Hindi ko maintindihan kasi strategy ng ayala sa kia ph. Bakit ba pinipilit 11 seater e wala naman ata target market na school bus o uv express ang carnival. Wala naman na din tax exemption for more than x seats so wala talagang point except numbers on paper lang sa capacity.

I agree, don’t understand why they are pushing the 11-seater version when the Carnival is not targeted for public utility or commercial use. The 4th row is useless and takes away the deep luggage compartment found in the pricey 7-seater version.

I have a 2013 8 seat LWB Carnival. It can carry 8-9 people and has a deep luggage area that can swallow a significant amount of luggage even w all three rows up. If I were Ayala’s product planners, I would bring in the 8 seater version, price it more affordably and phase out the 11 seater.

[istan]

Not much on discounts, but more on low down-payment schemes muna. If inventory doesn't move still, discounts will appear. Wait wait lang.

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[Dockie20]

Not much on discounts, but more on low down-payment schemes muna. If inventory doesn't move still, discounts will appear. Wait wait lang.

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Napansin ko nga nagstart na ang Kia mg-offer ng very low DP... Sana sumunod yung mga cash discounts. Are you an owner or a dealer of Kia?

[yapoy86]

Gusto ko din to kia carnival.. pero sobrang mahal na.. a few thousand pesos and you can get grandia elite..

[Dockie20]

Gusto ko din to kia carnival.. pero sobrang mahal na.. a few thousand pesos and you can get grandia elite..

Would you prefer a Grandia Elite?

[yapoy86]

Would you prefer a Grandia Elite?

Grandia elite competes with the starex... the carnival is too big in a fwd setup..
And that price again.. almost 3mil

[istan]

Napansin ko nga nagstart na ang Kia mg-offer ng very low DP... Sana sumunod yung mga cash discounts. Are you an owner or a dealer of Kia?

Owner lang. Pero not Carnival. Wish list ko rin ang Carnival. But the middle row = no headrest bothers me. Pricing also sucks.

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[Dockie20]

Owner lang. Pero not Carnival. Wish list ko rin ang Carnival. But the middle row = no headrest bothers me. Pricing also sucks.

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No headreast? Parang meron naman... arm rest ata ang wala.. Yung pricing bumaba na from before but yeah mahal pa din... Pero kung iisipin mo yung mga comparable vehicles in its class e around 2M din or more.. (Hi Ace; Starex; Odyssey)

Anong nabili mo sa Kia? Anong branch? Ok ba aftersales service nila? Toyota Avanza previous car ko pero willing to take a leap.. I want a car-like vehicle na can carry at least 8 passengers comfortably lalo na almost monthly uuwi kami ng bicol... more than 12 hours din yun one way...

[istan]

No headreast? Parang meron naman... arm rest ata ang wala.. Yung pricing bumaba na from before but yeah mahal pa din... Pero kung iisipin mo yung mga comparable vehicles in its class e around 2M din or more.. (Hi Ace; Starex; Odyssey)

Anong nabili mo sa Kia? Anong branch? Ok ba aftersales service nila? Toyota Avanza previous car ko pero willing to take a leap.. I want a car-like vehicle na can carry at least 8 passengers comfortably lalo na almost monthly uuwi kami ng bicol... more than 12 hours din yun one way...

Bought a sorento. Serviced it sa Kia Tramo, sadly, nissan na sya now.
Easy to repair naman, maraming parts sa Good Gear pasay and another store in Banawe.
Fb message then grab delivery lang.

My friends have the Carnival, so far ok naman.

Regarding the center seats in the rear rows, I might be wrong but the 11 seater I saw has no head rest.
Like this in the video. May back rest, pero walang head rest.

KIA Grand Carnival 219 Pakistan 11 Seater Minivan Interior & Exterior - YouTube

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[istan]

If u can spring for a Totl Carnival, maybe for a bit more get the KDM version. More toys.

Pitstop Motors or Hancars, both near Quezon Ave. Maybe check their fb posts from time to time.

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