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    guys im thinking of selling my xuv na. it's too unreliable na for me. i have my lists of bad experiences with my car.

    now im lost to what auv should i buy next. definitely isuzu is out. im leaning towards innova d4d but after having recently reading d4d woe threads, im back to square one.

    ano sa tingin nyo dapat kong gawin?

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    since out ang Isuzu at Innova, the top choices for an AUV would be the APV, Adventure and Everest.. between those three, i would choose the Everest..

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    I'll go with the Everest... though get the M/T version... the A/T is a bit sluggish.

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    innova is not yet out for me. im thinking of waiting for future batches and future owners to get their opinions.

    mahal kasi ng everest e. 1 million petot. medyo boring pa ang itsura
    e ang innova E variant less than 800 thou lang

    grabe ang hirap na mag hanap ng matinong AUV ngayon.
    unlike before AUVs are referred as reliable haulers

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    why? what's your bad experience with the isuzu auv? i'm planning to get a second hand pa naman for every day use.nalalaspag kase rav4 ko eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexfu
    why? what's your bad experience with the isuzu auv? i'm planning to get a second hand pa naman for every day use.nalalaspag kase rav4 ko eh.
    averaging 6 km/l (damn too slow yet still ave. high fuel consumption)

    exhaust pipe crack

    power window wont work. replaced already by isuzu yet new one wont work too.

    leaking door

    now my transmission sensor is broken. costs P3,800 for the part.
    isuzu doesn't have the part. still have to order daw.


    my car is 3yrs old. nakaka bad trip lang talalga when u own a new car tapos pa balik balik ka sa casa para mag pa ayos ng kung ano ano. buti sana kung gagastos ako para sa normal wear n tear like tires, shocks, etc...

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    G
    2.5 Diesel A/T = Php1,045,000
    2.5 Diesel M/T = Php985,000
    2.0 Gas A/T = Php980,000
    2.0 Gas M/T = Php930,000


    [SIZE=5]E [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=4]2.5 Diesel M/T[/SIZE] = [SIZE=4]Php885,000[/SIZE]



    J

    2.5 Diesel M/T = Php798,000
    2.0 Gas M/T = Php748,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001
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    2.5 Diesel A/T = Php1,045,000
    2.5 Diesel M/T = Php985,000
    2.0 Gas A/T = Php980,000
    2.0 Gas M/T = Php930,000


    [SIZE=5]E [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=4]2.5 Diesel M/T[/SIZE] = [SIZE=4]Php885,000[/SIZE]



    J

    2.5 Diesel M/T = Php798,000
    2.0 Gas M/T = Php748,000



    i guess i was looking at the J variant.

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    Sounds like you got a lemon.

    The exhaust pipe thing is something every single Crosswind owner goes through, and they still haven't fixed that damn design... honestly, how much would it cost Isuzu to install a P1,000 flex-pipe?

    Sucks for you on the transmission. I can relate. We just changed clutches on our 1 year old XUVi (I don't know if it's a bad tranny, or if my driver is a natural clutch driver... might be something of both).

    I think your fuel economy problem may have something to do with your unresolved exhaust problems, I've experienced 5-6 km/l on my 626 before because of a leaking exhaust gasket (which is the usual effect of the Crosswind exhaust defect) which improved to 8 km/l when it was fixed.

    I'd say get a lower end MANUAL Crosswind, as they're still the mileage champs, and the old engine has no problems with Pinoy diesel. Just have a flex-pipe installed and most of your problems are gone. Plus, the manual isn't as sluggish as the AT, there's no turbo to complicate maintenance, and the abundant torque makes traffic driving less stressful than you might think.

    But if you're leaning towards Toyota, get the 2.0 Gasoline J Variant. 748k for a modern 2.0 MT is great. And the extra 50k you've saved over the diesel, plus the money you save each oil change (maintenance will cost less for the smaller, less complicated gas engine) will go a long way to making up for the slightly higher fuel consumption (reputedly 8+ city, 11 highway, according to C!). Plus, it'll be quieter, smoother AND faster than any other AUV you could possibly get.

    The toys you don't get in the base trim will be easy enough to get outside of Toyota. :D 1 million is just too much money to ask for more toys.
    Last edited by niky; January 6th, 2006 at 04:12 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    tama ka niky. exhaust ko nilagyan ko na ng flexi hose kaso mataas talaga fuel consumption ko. AT pala ride ko. mdyo ayaw ko na talaga ang isuzu kht lower model pa kasi bad serivce sila e.

    nanggaling ako toyota kanina to check out innova E . even test drove a unit. ang sarap i drive, tahimik tpos maganda narin interiors nya. kaso when i asked about the fuel pump defect... wala naman daw ganon case ang toyota according sa sales agent. hehehe smile nalang ako.

    gusto ko sana kht latest model ng revo glx. at least tried n tested na. kaso wala nang bago nito e.
    Last edited by dieselNUBI; January 6th, 2006 at 04:32 PM.

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    Too bad. I suppose it really is something to do with your transmission, then... a friend with the XUVi AT gets around 10 km/l. Ang mahal nga ng service sa Isuzu, pero, what can you do?

    Yung Bwisit lang ng Toyota, sana may gas-variant din ng E... pero if you know someone, maybe you can ask for a swap to power-windows and locks in the J package. That's about the only thing not there you need. Seeing as how even the G variant doesn't have ABS, I wouldn't worry about the rest of the features.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    tingin ko everest nalang. kaso nag taas pala sila ng price. all this time i thought it was only 999k. Promo lang pala un last december. Now it's at 1.045M. And tataas pa sa feb because of exice tax. At ang sabi pa sa akin ng dealer e full 12% daw ang increase nila since hindi daw sila ng increase ng 10% before. Unlike toyotas na 2% lang ang increase nila kasi nag taas na sila ng 10% dati. And i need to sell un luma muna bago maka bili ng bago. Hindi na yata ako aabot....



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    OT lang ha. teka akala ko ba yang excise tax na yan e effective last september 2003 pa? di ba nga nagtaas na ng 10% so dapat 2% na lang. unless ngayon pa lang sila magtataas.

    tama kayo. mahal nga ang service ng isuzu. kaya nga kami na lang ang nagse-service sa isuzu namin.

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    tama ka. dapat 2 percent lang ang itataas. but in the case of ford as what the sales agent told me yesterday, hindi daw sila nag taas ng 10 percent dati. so full 12 percent ang itataas nila.

    well,,, mdyo magulo na yan. nagtanong ako ulet sa ford sabi sa akin 19thou lang ang itataas nila.

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    lemon nga nakuha mo bro. sakin 3 years na din yung XUV ko. yung sa exhaust pipe sakit na talaga ng crosswinds yun.. pero yung transmission wala pa anaman ako na eencounter. sorry to hear that bro. and sana hindi rn mangyari sakin yun...

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    sana hindi mangyari nga sa inyo un nangyari sa akin. mahirap talaga. ok lang sana kung good casa service ang isuzu kaso hindi e.

    btw, nag test drive ako ng everest. mahina lang engine noise nya. malakas humatak n tumakbo kaso hindi ko alam anong speed ko kasi hindi gumagana un speedometer e. will try to test drive another unit from other branch para ma tancha ko un speed/torque factor nya.

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    sino dyan sa tsikoteers ang everest owners?

    wala ako ako napapansin na everest owners e. ang daming revo/innova owners. ang dami isuzu crosswind owners pero walang ford everest owners.
    Last edited by dieselNUBI; January 31st, 2006 at 09:44 PM.

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    My ever trusted 2001 HILANDER XTRM!

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    i just read from motioncars.com that the engine would be very noisy when reaching 100kmh. ive read both ranger n everest reviews. is this true?
    kasi when i test drove the unit, it was much much more quiet than my xwind a/t.

    ranger/everest owners, may masasabi ba kayo dyan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselNUBI
    i just read from motioncars.com that the engine would be very noisy when reaching 100kmh. ive read both ranger n everest reviews. is this true?
    kasi when i test drove the unit, it was much much more quiet than my xwind a/t.

    ranger/everest owners, may masasabi ba kayo dyan?
    Have 2years with my everest M/T. Still no problem till now. The only problem i got a month ago - fuse for the DVD player broken.

    Noise - yes its true when youre above 120KPH ( with more on like a loud whistle ). Not sure how noisy when outside the car.
    Last edited by ch0k0y; February 7th, 2006 at 09:04 PM.

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