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    Hello po mga master, I'm planning to buy this van yung 12 seaters sana. Pero I'm not familiar with its model/variant. Like tci, VGT etc. Good ba ang Automatic transmission nito? current unit ko ngayon is 2012 Suzuki APV pero bitin ako sa 8 seaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonJon Villegas View Post
    Hello po mga master, I'm planning to buy this van yung 12 seaters sana. Pero I'm not familiar with its model/variant. Like tci, VGT etc. Good ba ang Automatic transmission nito? current unit ko ngayon is 2012 Suzuki APV pero bitin ako sa 8 seaters.

    Thanks.
    If it is VGT automatic, it is 5-speed...

    If it is TCi automatic, it is 4-speed....

    I recommend the former (though I own the latter variant)...

    Good matching of the transmission to the engine, IMO. Much better driving experience vs. the old model (bug-eyed), which I used to have.

    Suzuki APV is severely underpowered, though very practical and cute. I have driven one recently over a short distance, as my in-laws own one. Also, it is gasoline.

    You will be amazed by the power of the GS. Simply surreal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    If it is VGT automatic, it is 5-speed...

    If it is TCi automatic, it is 4-speed....

    I recommend the former (though I own the latter variant)...

    Good matching of the transmission to the engine, IMO. Much better driving experience vs. the old model (bug-eyed), which I used to have.

    Suzuki APV is severely underpowered, though very practical and cute. I have driven one recently over a short distance, as my in-laws own one. Also, it is gasoline.

    You will be amazed by the power of the GS. Simply surreal.


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    Go for it! If you're always on a full load, go for the CRDi VGT version. Although CVT's with his mod might make you think twice and go for the TCi version.

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    Having driven a CRDI VGT A/T and a TCI M/T, I'd say na bitin nga ang power ng TCI, again I'm not sure kung mabagal nga talaga yung TCI o sanay lang ako sa CRDI VGT. Last Nov.1 I took the TCI to Tagaytay, what I can say is hirap ako in some overtaking situation unlike pag yung CVX ko ang dala ko basta bigyan mo lang yung accelerator siguradong bibigyan ka rin which makes overtaking effortless in the CRDI models.

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    Or, in addition to that, test drive CVT's TCi unit. Hehehe!

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    Thanks sa mga inputs.


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    Hyundai Grand Starex Gold 2010 AT CRDi 998k, any suggestion, recommendation, reaction? May mga 2012 din na ganyan ako nakikita same price. Since eto 2010 kaya medyo alanganin ako.


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    Be wary of flooded units bro.

    Ikaw talaga bro IMm29, na volunteer mo kaagad ang unit ko ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    Be wary of flooded units bro. Ikaw talaga bro IMm29, na volunteer mo kaagad ang unit ko ....
    Sorry bro. Ikaw lang kilala kong TCi na VGT eh. Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Sorry bro. Ikaw lang kilala kong TCi na VGT eh. Haha
    Hindi naman- pag sinubukan ko kasi,- pihadong may kasamang check engine idiot light / limp mode ...


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    Ano ba diff sa tci over vgt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonJon Villegas View Post
    Ano ba diff sa tci over vgt?
    TCI is lik the 2.5 D4D of toyota without variable geometry turbo

    that spits out a 101/102 hp , while in the other hand the VGT

    is the like the the counterpart of Mitsubishi's 4d56 with VGT

    that produces 174 hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    TCI is lik the 2.5 D4D of toyota without variable geometry turbo

    that spits out a 101/102 hp , while in the other hand the VGT

    is the like the the counterpart of Mitsubishi's 4d56 with VGT

    that produces 174 hp
    When it comes to the following below, which is better

    Performance
    Maintenance cost
    Comfort

    Considering that i will use it for business almost everyday paakyat ng tagaytay yung byahe. I already have a vgt starex and planning to buy another one and considering the 2013 tci a/t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bachi1002 View Post
    When it comes to the following below, which is better

    Performance
    Maintenance cost
    Comfort

    Considering that i will use it for business almost everyday paakyat ng tagaytay yung byahe. I already have a vgt starex and planning to buy another one and considering the 2013 tci a/t

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    Miles apart ang performance ng vgt a/t vs tci a/t. 102 hp vs 174 hp, that is 70% more power when you need it. I've had both a 2008 grx, 2011 gs and my current 2019 gs. I've driven many times my friend's gs tci at. The tci a/t does not even come close to the performance of the grx.

    Also since it is for business i assume you will load it up. Better siguro kung tci manual instead of a/t. Especially kung hindi naman ikaw ang driver.

    Maintenance cost syempre lower ang tci, but only for the engine. Other aspects of maintenance - tranny, suspension, steering same lang yan.

    Comfort a tad different. Hindi sliding ang 3rd row seats. Yan laging complaint ng friend ko, sayang daw yung space behind the 3rd row.
    Last edited by yebo; March 4th, 2019 at 07:38 PM.

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    Which model ang fixed ang seats? The Gold model is HARI,is it 10 seater? are the seats fixed meaning not sliding? How would you determine the gray market from the local models? Which would you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raquino View Post
    Which model ang fixed ang seats? The Gold model is HARI,is it 10 seater? are the seats fixed meaning not sliding? How would you determine the gray market from the local models? Which would you recommend?
    The GOLD has Captain seats it can swivel
    all VGT starex have seats that can be swiveled except for
    the 12 seater
    The gray market have variant called CVX and HVX

    I would recommend the gray market because it
    has more features like sunroof ,auto sliding door
    etc.

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    Thanks mga master starting this week ako magha hunting

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    Pano ko matest or malaman na meron limp mode na tinatawag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonJon Villegas View Post
    Pano ko matest or malaman na meron limp mode na tinatawag?
    Bro.,- trust me,- you don't want to be in that state..... Been there twice on the previous gen(bug-eyed) and this gen(GS), and the experiences were not pleasant....

    If it drives well to your satisfaction and comfort, if the amenities are to your taste and if the price fits your budget,- then go for it!


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