'Lemon' 8th Gen Civic

[BlueBimmer]

as posted by Devin in motioncars forum

http://p083.ezboard.com/fmotioncarsf...cID=3582.topic

According to HCPI chemical reaction and bird poop.

No repaint. No clear coat application. NOT UNDER WARRANTY!

Yes, blaming us since bubbles manifest when car is with us. They firmly believe that bird poop can do this + possible daw na nausukan ako ng jeep... :rollin :rollin Oh, c'mon.

Haaay... HCPI... What's happening? Tsk tsk...

[BlueBimmer]

[alwayz_yummy]

makes me think of buying from honda......

see, kung ganyan ang bago, pano pa ung gamit na....

pang ilan na kaya ito? ung city ni psylock, then this....bumababa na quality ng honda dito,a!

[Psylocke]

Water-soaked City or a "bubbly" Civic...

Take your pick

[chain]

dami namang bird poop yan.. hahaha

seriously, minadali ang pagpintura nyan kaya yan bumubula...

factory defect tsk tsk.

[bender]

Bird poop markings and imperfections due to dust during painting leave different markings on the paint. The former would normally leave a mark similar to watermarks while the latter are like small pinholes.

If it is really bird pooop, it really depends on how the owners take care of their car. The amount of bird poop needed to inflict that type of damage might seem excessive but i've seen one of my officemates bring a city to the office with that many bird poop droppings all over the car.

[boybi]

bird poop? ano yan, nagpark sa ilalim ng bahay ng kalapati?

madalas meron bird poop car ko, sometimes umaabot ng ilan days na hindi napapansin dahil hindi naman nakikita yung bubong dahil mataas, pero never naman nagkaganyan.

[banaweonline]

that must have been a large bird to poop a spot as large as that...

sir boybi,
baka naman yung kalapati kasing laki ng leon...

hehehe

[wren]

kung bird poops and tree saps ang reasons nila, imposible namang aabot pa dito...unless expert marksmen yung mga birds and trees.

[chain]

IMO, agree ako kay Otep. malaking chance na hindi na dadalhin yan sa Planta to go through the same process of repainting. buo na kasi ang auto eh.

if ever, baka i-sub-contract na lang ng dealership / casa yan. (and how many times have I heard about the complaints and defects sa workmanship ng paint mula sa casa?)

Accord ko nung nabangga dinala sa casa. dun napinturahan. wasn't satisfied with the result. hindi pantay ang masilya, panget ang pagka-primer, lots of orange peel, kulang sa sanding, and may bubbles pa which I myself had to correct. hindi pa color-match ang mica sa Night Hawk Black nila... (NOX ang gamit nila, di ba?)

based on experience, malambot talaga ang paint ng Honda. scratches easily.

anyway, those defects, IMO, galing pa sa ilalim ng Clear.. nasa BC & Primer level na. doon pa lang, may mali na sa painting process.. kaya ayun bumubula.

[oldblue]

kung bird poops and tree saps ang reasons nila, imposible namang aabot pa dito...unless expert marksmen yung mga birds and trees.

obvious naman na hindi bird poop yan or tree sap yan hehehe.

hindi ko na kasi matandaan, how old nga ba yun civic ni ms devin, 4 months d'ba?

sa experience kasi namin sa pag-paparepaint, pag wala lumalabas na lobo within a week or better kung maulanan kagad, sigurado ok na paint job.

na-experience na din namin yun magkarun ng lobo lobo sa hood after repainting. kumbaga para bulutong, each day padami ng padami. this was our suzuki samurai way way back pa.

with ms devin's case, it took 4 months bago lumabas. hindi nakakapagtaka mag-suspetsa nga ang honda dyan. malaki ang possibility na chemical reaction nga from something "unknown". it just so happens na madali i-frame up ang mga ibon saka puno kasi hindi naman aamin yun hahahaha

and i do agree with the thin paint job of hondas. we had 3 na and madali mag chip-off talaga. even sa mild tama lang ng door sa katabi tsikot, kita mo kagad ang gasgas. dunno why ganito style nila, maybe to make hondas faster, lighter paint means lighter body.

yun na nga lang talaga, kung 4 months malabo outright replacement dyan. parang stores sa malls yan eh, they give you 2weeks to a month outright replacement. to see and to test kung may factory defects nga talaga. and I think under the consumer act of the Philippines, na-mention nga ito up to 1 month replacement. cge try ko ulit search yun law na yun. nabasa ko yun before when I was returning a defective digicam.

[KoKoNAT]

Meron bang paint protection yung kotse? Baka naman clear coat failure?

Whatever the case, the dealer should still resolve the issue. Ignoring this situation will cost them sooner than later.

[Gumusut_Amige]

this reminds me of my former boss' paint car finish in Malaysia... its a toyota LC, just after 5 months old the paint finish deteriorated and also UMW (toyota sole distributor in Malaysia) don't want to perform or offer any rectification works to the paint defect. Ang ginawa niya, pinabayaan na lang at naglagay ng malaking karatula sa may windshield niya which reads "CAUTION:PAINT HAD PEELED-OFF AFTER 5-MONTHS ONLY".
not sure though kung malaki ang impact nito sa sales ng Toyota with the same make/model!

[lm723]

I Media na dapat ito, hanggat ma-aga. And sa mga law maker, dapat may lemon law na. Supportado eto nang buong pilipinas.

[jamesvhong]

Nde lang pala ako nakapansin na sobrang nipis na ng paint ng car ngayon, iddunu kung pati toyota cars manipis din paint, we bought honda city last december, yung front bumber sa side ng gulong nagkaroon na ng chip ang paint dahil sa bato cguro, ngayon lumabas na yung black plastic ng bumper at halatang manipis na manipis yung paint. waaaa

and i saw din pala sa website ng honda phil meron silang paint protection na service... mukahang sinasadya nila para mag pa paint protect sa kanila at parang manipis nga clear coat. pati yung rust proofing kailangan mag bayad ka sa kanila ng 8K ata. I was thinking baka dalhin ko nalang sa petron yung kotse dun 1,600 lang rust proofing kaso pang ilalim lang.

[109]

kung bakit kasi nauso dito sa tin na nakahiwalay ang rustproofing eh, dapat kasama na yun sa presyo ng unit

[ILuvDetailing]

kung bakit kasi nauso dito sa tin na nakahiwalay ang rustproofing eh, dapat kasama na yun sa presyo ng unit

AFAIK lahat ng mga bagong sasakyan ngayon may factory rustproofing na, it is applied before applying the base coat and top coat. Kung baga yun ang foundation ng paint process.

[theveed]

May customer kami na black din na Civic, girl may ari, litawan din lahat ng paint defects when parked under our lights... Asar na asar din sya...

So much for Honda die-hards...

Yung litaw ng paint defects talagang parang pinatakan ng brake fluid again and again sa random areas ng kotse.

Regarding 109's question: Di nga dapat inoofer ang aftermarket rustproofing to begin with... Pang prey lang yan sa mga bagito sa kotse, useless spending.

[oldblue]

iba na talaga panahon ngaun pati birds naging mutant na. ingat kayo mapatakan sa buhok hahaha

[Vioser]

See... Aanhin mo ang style at design ng kotse pag di-naman maganada yung quality??? Sayang 8th Gen Civic pa naman yan....