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    mga gurus,

    asko ko lang po, nagpalit kasi ako ng size ng mags from r14 to r15, I noticed that the riding comfort changes. If I change the coil spring ba with stock shock wala ba maging problem? gusto ko rin kasi sana mag lower atleast 1.5".
    kelangan pa ba palitan ng shock or just simply change the coil.

    thanks,

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    puede na rin siguro mag palit ng lowered spring pero kahit papaano makararamdam ka pa rin ng konting tagtag kasi iba pa rin ang laro ng stock na shocks mo sa lowered shocks dahil magkaiba ang pressure nun.

    isipin mo ang stock na shocks ay medyo may kahabaan tapos yung stock spring na sumusuporta sa original shocks mo para hindi agad agad bumaba kapag nadadaan ka sa pangit na daan or pag marami kang karga sa kotse mo.

    ngayon kapag pinalitan mo yan dati mong spring ng lowered spring ay magiging parang magiging puwersado na ang stock shocks dahil parang masyado na itong nakaadvance sa ground ika-nga nawalan na sya ng buwelo.


    kung shocks lang papalitan mo tapos yung spring mo ay gagamitin mo pa rin ang dati mong original na coil halos ganun pa rin kasi ang mangyayari magiging matigas sa lowered shocks mo ang stock na spring mo.

    tandaan mo iba pa rin ang balance pag dating sa comfort riding.


    ang tanong ko lang naka low profile ka ba? anong series ng goma mo?
    Last edited by boy_tino; February 11th, 2010 at 09:44 PM.

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    Of course the ride will change. Swapping wheels for bigger ones has more to it than just aesthetics. There's less sidewall on your new 15" wheel + tire combo vs. the old 14". Usually you should notice it rides stiffer.

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    my new wheel is 55 series. does also effect on the strut bar that I install?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_gasmen View Post
    my new wheel is 55 series. does also effect on the strut bar that I install?

    medyo magiging stiffer na nga ang riding mo sa gayang klaseng gulong at isa pa lalo na kung masyado pang mataas pa sa nire-require na hangin or pressure ng gulong mo.

    tignan mo ang gulong mo kung ilang PSi ang kelangan na ikargang hangin.

    tanong ko lang ilang araw na ba yan goma mo saka yung binili mo yan ordinaryong hangin lang ba ang ikinarga sa gulong mo or nitrogen air ang ikinarga?

    kasi yun iba kong kaibigan naka 55 series at naka nitrogen air sa gulong nila hindi naman daw stiffer ang ride nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_gasmen View Post
    my new wheel is 55 series. does also effect on the strut bar that I install?
    No.

    The strut brace will only have an effect when you turn into a corner. That has absolutely nothing to do with ride quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by boy_tino View Post

    kasi yun iba kong kaibigan naka 55 series at naka nitrogen air sa gulong nila hindi naman daw stiffer ang ride nila.
    another myth on the loose... nitrogen on tires does not make your ride less stiffer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aejhayl17 View Post
    another myth on the loose... nitrogen on tires does not make your ride less stiffer...


    na-experienced mo na ba?

    kasi kaka experienced ko lang kanina ang pagkakaiba ng naka nitrogen at naka ordinaryong hanging lang.

    nasubukan ko yan sa dalawang parehas na kotse (honda civic ESi) at kapwa naka tires na bridgestone turanza (195/55 R15) at ang may ari ng kotse na yan dalawa ko ring kaibigan sa parehas na lugar dito sa lugar ko (QC) at sabay din bumili sa mismong honda.

    ang napansin ko ang pagkakaiba, medyo stiffer ang naka ordinaryong hangin lang samantalang yun naka nitrogen as medyo komportable ang riding ng iikot ko ang sunud-sunod ang dalawang kotse iisang kalye, same distance and same road condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boy_tino View Post
    na-experienced mo na ba?

    kasi kaka experienced ko lang kanina ang pagkakaiba ng naka nitrogen at naka ordinaryong hanging lang.

    nasubukan ko yan sa dalawang parehas na kotse (honda civic ESi) at kapwa naka tires na bridgestone turanza (195/55 R15) at ang may ari ng kotse na yan dalawa ko ring kaibigan sa parehas na lugar dito sa lugar ko (QC) at sabay din bumili sa mismong honda.

    ang napansin ko ang pagkakaiba, medyo stiffer ang naka ordinaryong hangin lang samantalang yun naka nitrogen as medyo komportable ang riding ng iikot ko ang sunud-sunod ang dalawang kotse iisang kalye, same distance and same road condition.
    Do you know what pressure is inside the tires of each car?

    Regular air is 80% nitrogen. There's no difference in the compressibility of nitrogen versus ordinary air. The advantage of nitrogen is that pressure increase due to heat is lower, since pure nitrogen doesn't heat up as quickly as ordinary air (though it eventually will).

    I've had nitrogen inside my tires... on several cars. On a sedan with 45-55 series tires, the difference is negligible... on a truck with 65-70 series tires, it seems softer at first... but after a while, when switching to ordinary air, you can't tell.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Do you know what pressure is inside the tires of each car?

    Regular air is 80% nitrogen. There's no difference in the compressibility of nitrogen versus ordinary air. The advantage of nitrogen is that pressure increase due to heat is lower, since pure nitrogen doesn't heat up as quickly as ordinary air (though it eventually will).

    I've had nitrogen inside my tires... on several cars. On a sedan with 45-55 series tires, the difference is negligible... on a truck with 65-70 series tires, it seems softer at first... but after a while, when switching to ordinary air, you can't tell.
    I'm a recent convert to nitrogen, and yes I was also a skeptic for a pretty long time. It does seem to be more resistant to temperature changes, although as you said it can only hold its own against outside temperature changes for so long.

    I'm presuming the real reason why it's more resistant to heating up and pressure increase is because the water vapor has been removed or reduced somehow. Basically it's "dry air" with the nitrogen proportion increased.

    On my Jazz's 45-series rubber, I recently had my tires filled 36F/33R on nitrogen. I was genuinely surprised how well the car rode even with such high tire pressures - it rode slightly better than on my usual 32F/30R pressure on compressed air.

    On a drive from Paranaque to Nasugbu loaded with nitrogen, I measured the pressure difference - +3F/+2R.

    Just sharing my feedback.

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