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    Guys im just wondering why some FD's have lower asking / selling price than some ES' models. They say that these are ondoy victims while some owners say that they just want to get rid of it because of it's poor fuel consumption. I'm still eying for my next car and this model is on top of my list. Can you guys help me with the good and bad side of this car. Thanks.

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    Probably because it is still in production. Or Maybe FDs are generally worse than the former. (I doubt this conclusion) Same thing with the second generation v 1st generation CRV.

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    malakas sa gas. 2.0L whether SUV or sedan, same consumption kaya. eh kung mag 2.0/1.8L ka, mag SUV kana at least you have higher ground clearance

    i really dont get it why a lot of people these days buy 2.0's, 1.8s of lancer, corolla and civic. eh kung yun nga mga old coronas, accord, galant mas mababa pa ang resale value sa 1.3, 1.5, 1.6 corolla, civic, lancer na counterpart nila noon

    hehehe, para ka bumili ng gas guzzling sedan. sobrang natutuwa siguro lalo mga owners ng vios na mura na acquisition, tipid consumption, taas resale value.

    circa 94-98, my civic esi and civic vti were top of the line pero it also meant i'm driving a gas guzzler sa mga common 1.3l, 1.5cars noon. and to think i'm only driving 1.6

    maybe that's why the new corolla's with start stop engine support reverted back to 1.6L engines. di na ma-defend ng toyota ang fuel efficiency ng corolla lineup nila eh
    Last edited by jimnyeatworld; December 6th, 2010 at 01:54 AM.

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    i'm using a 2.0L honda civic ok naman fuel consumption nya basta i followed ang tamang PM nya pati mga spark plugs palit ayon sa PM book nya yun lang secret dyan.

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    ang acceptable FC ngaun siguro sa FD nyo eh 8km/liter noh allcity. ok na yun sa inyo ngaun?

    way way back when i was driving a honda esi then a honda vti, may fuel consumption is minimum of 13km/liter all-city yan.

    the reason why the es has more resale value eh grabe i just compared my 99 CRV first gen's FC sa 2001 es na kebigan ko. ang half full tank niya eh 380km, full tank ko na yun sa CRV first gen

    kainggit ka yun kebigan ko and he does field sales all over the metro.

    i'm doing 7.5km/liter at 2.0 CRV engine. halos pareho lang ng FD pero na naka-sedan kayo, dapat mas matipid pa

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    ang acceptable FC ngaun siguro sa FD nyo eh 8km/liter noh allcity. ok na yun sa inyo ngaun?

    way way back when i was driving a honda esi then a honda vti, may fuel consumption is minimum of 13km/liter all-city yan.

    the reason why the es has more resale value eh grabe i just compared my 99 CRV first gen's FC sa 2001 es na kebigan ko. ang half full tank niya eh 380km, full tank ko na yun sa CRV first gen

    kainggit ka yun kebigan ko and he does field sales all over the metro.

    i'm doing 7.5km/liter at 2.0 CRV engine. halos pareho lang ng FD pero na naka-sedan kayo, dapat mas matipid pa
    8km/L for a fast 2.0Li i-VTEC sedan is good.

    AFAIK i-VTEC is not made for FC, made for more speed ata.

    I'd choose speed than efficiency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RG-93 View Post
    Guys im just wondering why some FD's have lower asking / selling price than some ES' models. They say that these are ondoy victims while some owners say that they just want to get rid of it because of it's poor fuel consumption. I'm still eying for my next car and this model is on top of my list. Can you guys help me with the good and bad side of this car. Thanks.
    Madami din kasi ondoy victim na FD, my cousin sold his 09 2.0S 485K only pero nothing to fix na dun. The sad part hindi alam ng buyer na ondoy car yun. Kaya ingat sa mga 2nd hand, you will never know unless honest seller ang bibilhan which i doubt kasi they want to dispose the unit. Daming ganyan sa Pampanga, dun kasi nagagawa nila lahat ng ondoy kaya dami nagbebenta dun ondoy flooded units.

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    hmmm... i dont get it. if papagawa mo ondoy vehicle that will add cost to you then sell less?

    for example, kung lubog ang buong civic fd, mahina ang 100K. so gagastos ka ng 100K and then bebenta mo ng mas mura? i doubt that

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    ^You will not believe it pero less than 100k ang nagastos niya, hindi naman lahat ng ginagawa dun palit piyesa kagaya sa casa.. Sa Capalangan Apalit Pampanga walang imposible..

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    Marami din dun sila ang binebentahan ng mga insurance company yung mga na total loss in form ng bidding, binebenta ng bagsak presyo yung unit. Kaya andaming ondoy na na total loss dun nabenta then inayos nila, naayos at nabenta na. Ako nga nun nagbabalak na bumili ng na-ondoy kaso nagdalawang isip din kasi wala pa nga may alam ano magiging sakit ng flooded car as time pass by..

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    honestly, i dont know din kung bakit mura resale value ng FD. 2006 v and s variants go for 450k.

    theory ko lang naman is takot tao kung naririnig na 1800 makina. impression is malakas sa gas. good for us used car buyers, bang for buck and mukang modelo pa rin oto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Madami din kasi ondoy victim na FD, my cousin sold his 09 2.0S 485K only pero nothing to fix na dun. The sad part hindi alam ng buyer na ondoy car yun. Kaya ingat sa mga 2nd hand, you will never know unless honest seller ang bibilhan which i doubt kasi they want to dispose the unit. Daming ganyan sa Pampanga, dun kasi nagagawa nila lahat ng ondoy kaya dami nagbebenta dun ondoy flooded units.
    x2 on this. I noticed a lot of Ondoy victim FDs as well when i would go to the shop in Pampanga where my in-law's Vios was repaired (flooded din)... mahusay nga sila. I think this ranks together with the Vios, Innova as having a good chance of being flooded due to the sheer amount of units sold and that this was mainly bought by the middle class to upper middle class and affluent buyers whose homes were primarily the Ondoy victims as well.

    Depreciation-wise, the first models of the FD should really be in the 500K level already IMO. I personally think the ES models (04 to 05) should be more in the 350K to low 400K range (for a really good unit or the rare 2.0) although not to0 much were sold as compared to the FD as others have mentioned.

    As for flooded cars, a friend who personally worked on Ondoy cars said there is a night and day difference in salvaging a flooded car that was attended to immediately after the flood (as in within 24 to 48 hours, it was disassembled cleaned out) and those that lingered for days to weeks to months.
    Last edited by vinj; December 6th, 2010 at 06:28 PM.

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