Motor Doctor diagnostic services - any one tried em yet?

[sleepsus]

Found this on sulit Motor Doctor - Advanced Car Diagnostics Services Philippines - 3517478

Any one tried their services out yet?

I'm wanting to get my Accord checked out as I have a feeling some of the sensors aren't operating properly ... or I may just be paranoid :P

[ralphmarvin]

my friend had his car checked up last week and he said that they were able to give him full details of what is going wrong with his car though I'm just not sure if he already had them fixed. check up lang daw kasi ung 2,500.. gusto ko din pumunta for their "health check" pero wala pang sweldo

[sleepsus]

i inquired this afternoon, home service for a health check and a tune up is 3.5K. medyo mahal nga ... i wonder if it's worth the cash?

[nathan7]

Mahal naman, minsan wala naman sa name nang shop yan. Since tao lang din naman sila
Go nalang sa trusted na

[Ryancarnage06]

mga paps i tried it for health check and tune up last monday lang,.. i would recommend this shop for everyone whos still looking for solutions most specially for some mysterious problem goin on with their cars,... i had this problem with my 1997 pizza Lancer GLXi with its fuel consumption, loss of power and if its in the morning pag stat mo parang sinisinok,...tehn im having 4km/l taas talaga,. lahat na ginawa ko tune up palit filters,water pump, radiator overhaul etc. ganun prin it seems talagang may problem nga n iba,. i ask evry talyer sasabihin sayo sir luma na kse,. well may iba pang mas luma mas matipid pa sa pizza ko.. then i went to motor doctor tried it then my Car was scanned and only one fault was found Engine Coolant Temp Sensor,..and they resolved it!! they are using diffrent device to check the car kung anu tlaga problema,..... walang hula hula and it seems talagng hinde aalis auto mo sa shop nila kung hinde nasosolve problem mo,. hands down sa kanila! ;-) i requested mr garcia the owner to email me thier detailed diagnosis and solutions summary report and here it is .. medyo wordy pre share ko lang sa inyo mga paps!

Car: 1997 Lancer GLXi
Customer Complaint/s:
- High fuel consumption
- Lack of mid range and top end power
- Engine hesitation when revving during cold starts


Findings:
1. Car was scanned and only one fault was found:
ERROR 21 – Engine Coolant Temp Sensor
Fault was erased but kept on coming back indicating that there is indeed a problem with the engine coolant temp sensor.
2. Data streaming was done and the abnormal reading was from the engine temperature. It was showing -65 degrees centigrade… colder than Antarctica.
3. Compression test results show an average of 170psi per cylinder. Still good and acceptable.
4. Ignition pulses were observed using pulse gun and found all cylinders had evenly pulsed ignition spark generation.
5. Checked Mitsu engine documentation to locate engine coolant temp sensor. Found one connected to the radiator and this one was wired to the computer box to send temperature readings. Measured the readings and it was sending 12 volts to the computer which is beyond the 0 – 5 volt range it expects. 5volts is about 0 degrees and .1 volts = over 100 degrees Celsius
The 12 volts it is receiving from this sensor was translated by the computer box to -65 degrees.
6. Car’s wiring was re-wired and wires were connected to send wrong signals to the computer box for temp readings. The right engine coolant temp sensor was found on the engine water pump piping and this was not connected due to a broken wire. This was reconnected and wiring was routed to the right pin of the computer box to receive proper temp readings.
7. Computer box based on temp readings sent to it adjusted the engine’s ignition timing to 20 degrees advance and sustained a rich fuel mixture for cold starts all throughout the time the engine is operated. It thinks the engine is cold, hence it sets a rich fuel mixture and advances the ignition timing.
Corrections/repairs:
1. Brought wiring back to factory specs
2. Connected the right engine coolant temp sensor to provide temp readings to the right pin of the computer box.
3. Did data streaming to see if the computer gets the right temperature feedback from the sensors and if the ignition advance is brought to the std 10 degrees advance at engine operating temp. Confirmed that temp readings go up to 75 degrees centigrade and ignition advance settled at 10 degrees.

Summary:
A disconnect or defective engine coolant temp sensor could totally change how your engine is managed by the computer box. The computer box checks if it should run in “cold start” mode based on the temperature feedback from engine coolant temp sensor. If it is informed that the engine is cold, it chokes the air fuel mixture – makes it rich to allow easier start up. And it also advance ignition to 20 degrees. If you get stuck in cold start mode operation, it will be like running a carbureted car with the choke on the whole day. This means running rich all the time and having the wrong ignition timing all throughout the rev range.
Bottomline, you will get very high fuel consumption if your engine coolant temp sensor conks out.

[sleepsus]

I like the scientific and text book approach

How long did the session take and how much did it cost you?

[rolee007]

mga paps i tried it for health check and tune up last monday lang,.. i would recommend this shop for everyone whos still looking for solutions most specially for some mysterious problem goin on with their cars,... i had this problem with my 1997 pizza Lancer GLXi with its fuel consumption, loss of power and if its in the morning pag stat mo parang sinisinok,...tehn im having 4km/l taas talaga,. lahat na ginawa ko tune up palit filters,water pump, radiator overhaul etc. ganun prin it seems talagang may problem nga n iba,. i ask evry talyer sasabihin sayo sir luma na kse,. well may iba pang mas luma mas matipid pa sa pizza ko.. then i went to motor doctor tried it then my Car was scanned and only one fault was found Engine Coolant Temp Sensor,..and they resolved it!! they are using diffrent device to check the car kung anu tlaga problema,..... walang hula hula and it seems talagng hinde aalis auto mo sa shop nila kung hinde nasosolve problem mo,. hands down sa kanila! ;-) i requested mr garcia the owner to email me thier detailed diagnosis and solutions summary report and here it is .. medyo wordy pre share ko lang sa inyo mga paps!

Car: 1997 Lancer GLXi
Customer Complaint/s:
- High fuel consumption
- Lack of mid range and top end power
- Engine hesitation when revving during cold starts


Findings:
1. Car was scanned and only one fault was found:
ERROR 21 – Engine Coolant Temp Sensor
Fault was erased but kept on coming back indicating that there is indeed a problem with the engine coolant temp sensor.
2. Data streaming was done and the abnormal reading was from the engine temperature. It was showing -65 degrees centigrade… colder than Antarctica.
3. Compression test results show an average of 170psi per cylinder. Still good and acceptable.
4. Ignition pulses were observed using pulse gun and found all cylinders had evenly pulsed ignition spark generation.
5. Checked Mitsu engine documentation to locate engine coolant temp sensor. Found one connected to the radiator and this one was wired to the computer box to send temperature readings. Measured the readings and it was sending 12 volts to the computer which is beyond the 0 – 5 volt range it expects. 5volts is about 0 degrees and .1 volts = over 100 degrees Celsius
The 12 volts it is receiving from this sensor was translated by the computer box to -65 degrees.
6. Car’s wiring was re-wired and wires were connected to send wrong signals to the computer box for temp readings. The right engine coolant temp sensor was found on the engine water pump piping and this was not connected due to a broken wire. This was reconnected and wiring was routed to the right pin of the computer box to receive proper temp readings.
7. Computer box based on temp readings sent to it adjusted the engine’s ignition timing to 20 degrees advance and sustained a rich fuel mixture for cold starts all throughout the time the engine is operated. It thinks the engine is cold, hence it sets a rich fuel mixture and advances the ignition timing.
Corrections/repairs:
1. Brought wiring back to factory specs
2. Connected the right engine coolant temp sensor to provide temp readings to the right pin of the computer box.
3. Did data streaming to see if the computer gets the right temperature feedback from the sensors and if the ignition advance is brought to the std 10 degrees advance at engine operating temp. Confirmed that temp readings go up to 75 degrees centigrade and ignition advance settled at 10 degrees.

Summary:
A disconnect or defective engine coolant temp sensor could totally change how your engine is managed by the computer box. The computer box checks if it should run in “cold start” mode based on the temperature feedback from engine coolant temp sensor. If it is informed that the engine is cold, it chokes the air fuel mixture – makes it rich to allow easier start up. And it also advance ignition to 20 degrees. If you get stuck in cold start mode operation, it will be like running a carbureted car with the choke on the whole day. This means running rich all the time and having the wrong ignition timing all throughout the rev range.
Bottomline, you will get very high fuel consumption if your engine coolant temp sensor conks out.

Sir, musta ang fuel consumption mo, nag-improved ba?

[Ryancarnage06]

*mpbtejada.... Im not sure if all casas has the same tools motor doctor has... You can inquire sa motor doctor directlly paps.. The owner would answer that for you ok yun. ;-)

[nyagi]

kapit bahay ko lang pala ito... ma-try nga next week! :D

[Ryancarnage06]

kapit bahay ko lang pala ito... ma-try nga next week! :D

anu isyu nyo sa tsikot mo paps? Pagkapasyal nyo dun paps pa share din ng experience baka makatulong din sa mga ka tsikot natin dito hehe ;-)

[equalizer0108]

mga paps...san po location ng motor doctor?curious lang ako kc marami na rin akong gustong ipagawa sa esi ko e..idle pag naka a/c at matagal ma2tay na cel..thanks po.

[Chronos09]

*ryancarnage, paps gnyan din ang prob ko... 4km/liter ang konsumo ko... gusto ko sana ipachek... kaso anlayo pala... paranaque pa ko.. hehe.. wala bang malapit lang sa paranaque?

[Ryancarnage06]

*ryancarnage, paps gnyan din ang prob ko... 4km/liter ang konsumo ko... gusto ko sana ipachek... kaso anlayo pala... paranaque pa ko.. hehe.. wala bang malapit lang sa paranaque?

Taas din yan paps ah... Anu pla ride mo? Manual or matic? Ako din parang ganyan dati consumption ko nasubukan mo nba yan ipa full tank paps? and nasubukan mo nba i byahe ng higway driving? Check mo muna.. FYI bro taga paranaque din Ko hehe sa bf ako dinayo ko pa yan hoping na makita kung anu nagiging problem so far they saw one of the contributors.. But therez a lot of things to consider kse bkit mataas fc beyond evrything.. Try mo pa check sa knila auto mo baka maresolve makita nila problem..

[Chronos09]

ahh ganun ba pre? BF ka lang pala... ride ko, mitsubishi lancer glxi 1993 (evo 3 bodykit) hehe.. kaso sablay sa FC... mga magkano nagastos mo lahat-lahat pre?? may nakausap narin ako malapit sa atin eh.. pque lang din.. ni-refer ni sir jedai.. mukhang ok naman... ng-quote skin ng 4k... pero firm syang magagawa... sa servo lang daw un... may singaw.. di daw kasi lahat pede i-rely sa scanning ng computer box.. nalilito tuloy ako kung saan ko ipapagawa.. though may scanner din sila... 1.5k ung diagnose.. XD

[Chronos09]

Manual tranny nga pala ung ride ko bro...

[Chronos09]

oo bro.. full tank tapos reset ung km ng itatakbo sa gauge... then byahe, and full tank ulet... then divide ung km na natakbo dun sa liters ng 2nd full tank.. ayun... 4.2 km/L... imbaness.. XD

[rolee007]

ahh ganun ba pre? BF ka lang pala... ride ko, mitsubishi lancer glxi 1993 (evo 3 bodykit) hehe.. kaso sablay sa FC... mga magkano nagastos mo lahat-lahat pre?? may nakausap narin ako malapit sa atin eh.. pque lang din.. ni-refer ni sir jedai.. mukhang ok naman... ng-quote skin ng 4k... pero firm syang magagawa... sa servo lang daw un... may singaw.. di daw kasi lahat pede i-rely sa scanning ng computer box.. nalilito tuloy ako kung saan ko ipapagawa.. though may scanner din sila... 1.5k ung diagnose.. XD

pa-pm naman ng contact details ng shop Thanks!

[Ryancarnage06]

mga paps...san po location ng motor doctor?curious lang ako kc marami na rin akong gustong ipagawa sa esi ko e..idle pag naka a/c at matagal ma2tay na cel..thanks po.

Paps nsa marcos highway sya from mrt santolan going to sta. Lucia mall paglagpas lang nun pagnakita mo na yung susunod na shell station kbilang side is phoenix gas station dun sila checkmmo nalang sa sulit.com for further details..

[Ryancarnage06]

*chronos.. Pre, hanngang ngayon ineexperiment ko parin weird nga eh pag highway driving ako umaabot naman ako atleast 10km/l (actually mataas prin un sa average FC ng 4g92 na engine) dpat atleast pag highway atleast mga 13km/l.. Now eto ang mabigat pag city driving larang 4km/l lang ako grabe.. Imho lang bro tungkol sa servo i dont think that would really impact yung pagtaas ng fc ntin otherwise sira and nagflactuate na talaga idle mo.. theres other things pa to consider other the servo alone eh.. ang palagay ko dyan taalaga sumasablay talaga air and fuel mixture ntin and ofcourse mahirap talaga matukoy yan saniisang upuan lang.. Talagang oobserbahan.. Saken pinalitan ko nrin clutch system ko. Linis servo nrin.,palit lahat ng filters heck nrin fuel linesnwala naman tagas and linis maf sensor c/o motor doctor, and pagsasaayos ng wiring signal from engine temp coolant sensor to the ecu na ginawa ng MD..in fairness nagimprove naman fc but sa tingin ko not thoroughly gusto kk nga sana bumalik sankjila but layo and la pa time pumuntabulit sa cainta.. One thing i suspect paps nabasa ko car club namin pwedeng
madumi na yung tangke and madumi nayung nsisipsip ng pump papuntang fuel filter.. Acording to MD ok rin naman daw yung buga ng mga injectors ko.. Medyo iisa isahin kk talaga ulit nga eh.. Mahirap talaga matukoy.. Since lancer krin paps.. Invite kita sa club nmin i dont knownif member kana.. Sa mitsulancer.ph premier lancer enthuiast club of the phil.. Pa member ka bro marami maitutulong rin sayo yung club dami threads doon..

[Ryancarnage06]

Tsaka paps saan yang 4k na shop na sinasabi mo? Anung klaseng procedurenyung gagawin nila sa paranaque din ba yan? or hinde lang sa servo ang focus nila? Kse kung comprehensive dpat lahat tgnan nila hinde lang servo.. Napa chek mo naba yung oto mo sa knila paps? Pa update paps TIA