Cylinder head, have it replaced or head for the Machine shop?

[juztin888]

Good day everyone! I have this dilemma right in front of me...I drive a 1996 Honda Civic Vtec, and the temperature gauge at times goes above 3/4. I had it checked up with a reliable mechanic, I had the water pump fixed 4 months ago, I just had the fan of the radiator changed, I had my radiator cleaned and sealed for leaks, changed the termo switch, thermostat, and temperature sender...but the temperature still goes up... and the mechanic noticed that the temp goes up above the 3/4s mark, the water is not boiling... and when we start the car cooled and without the radiator cap on, water spits out the radiator like a volcano... So the mechanic concluded that there is a problem with the cylinder head, He said either change the Cylinder head with the same PH16a (local) or D15b (japan) cylinder head...or...have the cylinder head be precisely trimmed at a machine shop. I canvassed the cylinder head and O could get the PH16a or D15b at P8k with a labor of P2,5k, plus gaskets and etc would reach about P11k (i could sell my old cylinder head or have it weighed at a junk shop and get P4k). I passed though a street in scout tobias quezon city and was able to meet some friendly people who specialized in upgrading and repairing Honda Civics, and they offered to help me get the cylinder head to a machine shop including labor at P5k. (but the mechanic said that having the cylinder head trimmed is not full proof and the problem comes back).

So, here's my dilemma... If i decide to buy a surplus cylinder head, would it be better be a PH16a or D15b? Or have it fixed with a reliable machine shop that they recommend? determining the quality and performance of both types of repairing methods...

Note that I'm in a tight budget, 'coz I have been restoring my mashed up car into a fair driving automobile that is suitable for safe daily driving, and spent a little more than I expected, meaning I have a tight budget, hehe. i hope any experienced members or fans can help me with this. Thank you!

[speed unlimited]

Karamihan kasi machine shop nila dinadala pag ganyan problema . Dalin mo na lang sa mga kilalang machine shop at iyong cylinder head gasket na bibilin mo iyong original na pang ph16 minsan kasi hindi nagtatagal replacement lalo na pagmura binili mo.

[juztin888]

Oh, ganun ba? May kilala kang mga machine shop na marunong o kabisado na gumawa nitong cylinder head? Kung sana dito sa may Quezon city lang... Thank you "Speed unlimited"!

[djhao79]

Oh, ganun ba? May kilala kang mga machine shop na marunong o kabisado na gumawa nitong cylinder head? Kung sana dito sa may Quezon city lang... Thank you "Speed unlimited"!

Hi po...mura na po ang labor cost na singil sa inyo. Sa akin nga 8k ang singil sa akin nung pina-regrind yung valves (or dahil malakas mag-tongpats yung mekaniko ko). wala pa dun yung mga overhaul gasket na 4k ang singil sa akin ng mekaniniko (again....tongpats! pero 3k na yung pinaka-murang nakita ko sa area namin pero FEDERAL MOGUL w/ steel gasket xa). Angn consolation ko na lang perfect ang pagkaka-gawa...feeling like brand-new ang engine ko. super tining ng tunog at tahimik...mas gummanda pa ang hatak ngaun at matulin na sya unlike dati. PH16 din ang makina ko for my HONDA Esi. Suggestionn ko na lang po kayo na bumili ng overhauling gasket na FEDERAL Mogul w/ steel gasket (may asbestos po kaso as durable ang steel), mas sigurado at makakasave ka pa basta buy ka lang sa mga nagsusupply ng mga orig parts. If sa tingin nyo po na reliable ang machine shop nung nirefer sa inyo....dun na lang po kayo magpagawa, anyhow...may mga warranty naman ata sila. Ang maganda lang..mababalik sa good condition ang makina.....that is kung magaling ang mechanic at kabisadao ang HONDA engines. May mga magagaling din mekaniko but not of all of them are experts on honda cars. Trust me...nabiktima na don ako dati...I thought magaling yung mekaniko/shop dahil nakikita kong maraming gawa..but not on honda cars....bopols or hula system sila lalo na kung engine ang may sira which is very sensitive pa naman. maybe they're good on other brands of vehicle but not totally have an extensive experience on honda cars.

Nung inoverhaul yung buong makina ko, binalik nga ulit yung thermostat control valve and switch, dati kasi wala nung binili ko ito last year. After overhaul, I am very satisfied naman sa naging result. Ang importante di na ako nahahassle sa pag-pinpoint kung ano main problem dati ng oto ko dahil nakaranas nga din ng overheat at dating may mga oil leaks. At parangn kada byahe ko dati....edyo naalangang akong ilayo or iluwas man lang ng Manila baka tumirik ako, ngayon po ay very confident na ako ilayo-layo ito dahil nasa good condition na ang makina. Buti nga po kayo nasa Metro Manila area or near Banawe at least dami kayong makikita na surplus at auto supply na reliable.. I'm in Cavite kasi kaya iilan lang dito yung trusted/reliable auto parts na alam ko...pero may kamahalan na rin somehow dahil asa provincial area na kami.

[macvtec]

boss san kayo nagpagawa? same problem din yung meron sa auto ko eh. nagooverheat din siya. i had my radiator cleaned up, naglagay na din ako ng coolant. pag bukas din yung radiator cap tas ni-rev bumubulwak din yung tubig. ang sabi sakin ng mechanic yung cylinder head gasket yung problema. may leak daw yun. ask ko lang sir kung san kayo nagpagawa? and magkano kaya aabutin nung labor pati yung parts? thanks po.

[voltscastillo]

sometimes its just cheaper to get a whole surplus engine.

one mistake sa paglapat ng bagong head, or shaved head, ulit lahat yan. buti kung matiyaga mekaniko mo... usually gulo na yan pag pinaback job mo... baka kung anu-ano na sabihin sa iyo (take this as friendly advice from someone who knows, hehe).

buy a surplus engine + or - 25-30K, drop it in, reuse everything else... tapos problema mo. lakad na lang ng papeles. kesa surplus head plus labor 20K, perwisyo mo pa... buti kung super galing ng mekaniko mo isang salpakan lang ayos lahat agad.

[mrjeff]

Taga saan ka sir?

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[xRAMPAGEX]

Taga saan ka sir?

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Taga Makati ako sir. Baka may alm ka magalin na mechanic at machine shop. Thanks.