POLL: are irresponsible drivers also linked to irresponsible parking?

[Stigg ma]

This is just a survey...

Lets see... The Question: are people who irresponsibly park their car are also irresponsible drivers on the road?

(i want to know, because if the case above is true, then why not apprehend them while they are parked)

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[RomeoAlpha]

in my honest and humble opinion - the answer to your question is no.

[oj88]

Definitely NO.

[Stigg ma]

in my honest and humble opinion - the answer to your question is no.

i respect that, but if you may kindly explain why?

[Stigg ma]

in my honest and humble opinion - the answer to your question is no.

i respect that, but if you may kindly explain why?

[Stigg ma]

lets eliminate pala the "domino effect" scenario... yon ba may isa irresponsible na nag park tapos damay damay na sila lahat na wala sa linya... syempre 2015 na at pwede na natin gamitan ng cctv as evidence sa parking kung sino ang una nag kamali...

yes or no, please explain your side... a simple yes or no without explanation is invalid...

[badkuk]

lets eliminate pala the "domino effect" scenario... yon ba may isa irresponsible na nag park tapos damay damay na sila lahat na wala sa linya... syempre 2015 na at pwede na natin gamitan ng cctv as evidence sa parking kung sino ang una nag kamali...

yes or no, please explain your side... a simple yes or no without explanation is invalid...

Sir, you're saying that we can go ahead and apprehend people who park badly as irresponsible drivers, with absolutely no evidence of the irresponsible driving -- they park irresponsibly, so they *are* irresponsible drivers, period....yet you also say that we should exclude the victims of the parking "domino effect" via CCTV footage -- i.e. use of evidence. Parang me mali...

[oj88]

So you're prejudging someone that he's a good or bad driver by the way he/she parks? They're not necessarily related.

Also, laws are very specific in its application. What would you charge someone who's parked in a less than ideal way? Speeding?

[badkuk]

imho, no.

If the above is true, then judging from the number of drivers driving like mad on our roads, there should be a lot more cars getting parked badly ^_^

[cast_no_shadow]

NO.

Again pwede domino effect, you just can't eliminate that. Minsan wala ka sa lugar dahil sa katabi mo, then aalis katabi mo. Ikaw tuloy ang mukhang gago kasi sablay parada mo.

Pwede newbie driver, mahina pa parking skills.

And again pwedeng irresponsible talaga.

Pwede rin TANGA talaga, tipong hindi niya alam na sablay talaga.


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[unmarked]

No.

My dad is a good example. Malumanay sa daan, follows protocol and accepted practices and yet mejo may 'pwede na yan' attitude sa parking.

Madalas nya ako sinasabihan ako nagpapark na pwede na yan kahit na mejo na o-oc ako lalo na pag baliko.

[Stigg ma]

No.

My dad is a good example. Malumanay sa daan, follows protocol and accepted practices and yet mejo may 'pwede na yan' attitude sa parking.

Madalas nya ako sinasabihan ako nagpapark na pwede na yan kahit na mejo na o-oc ako lalo na pag baliko.

thank you all for your valuable response to this survey

again, eliminate natin domino effect...

here is the premise: parking properly shows your respect to other motorist right? then improperly parking just shows you dont care about others like using two spaces, blocking other cars, parking on PWD slots, etc...

then if the second sentence is applied, while driving is it also that they dont care about other motorist?

this is not just a domestic phenomenon, this is also happening on other countries, even in the USA! but i want to know how filipinos think about it?

[vinj]

No.

But in the case of one guy parked at the office, his idiotic parking is linked to his idiotic driving... in other words tanga lang talaga (not irresponsible per se). Tapos forever pa nakakabit yung bike rack sa trunk niya na laging sagabal sa pedestrians.

[Stigg ma]

No.

But in the case of one guy parked at the office, his idiotic parking is linked to his idiotic driving... in other words tanga lang talaga (not irresponsible per se). Tapos forever pa nakakabit yung bike rack sa trunk niya na laging sagabal sa pedestrians.

oh no! that for me is irresponsible na! why? because driving needs a license, your skills will be put to the test 1st before you are allowed to drive alone, this is done in-order for a 800kg vehicle (or more) to be safely operated on the road and not inconvenience others... so being stupid/tanga/ignorant motorist should be not allowed to drive

safety reminders: these are just opinions, lets respect each other...

[vinj]

No.

But in the case of one guy parked at the office, his idiotic parking is linked to his idiotic driving... in other words tanga lang talaga (not irresponsible per se). Tapos forever pa nakakabit yung bike rack sa trunk niya na laging sagabal sa pedestrians.

[cast_no_shadow]

No.

But in the case of one guy parked at the office, his idiotic parking is linked to his idiotic driving... in other words tanga lang talaga (not irresponsible per se). Tapos forever pa nakakabit yung bike rack sa trunk niya na laging sagabal sa pedestrians.

Yep!

pag bang tanga = irresponsible na?

may tao hindi nila alam na mali sila, hindi nila alam na sagabal sila.

you just can't equate that to being irresponsible.

[Stigg ma]

Yep!

pag bang tanga = irresponsible na?

may tao hindi nila alam na mali sila, hindi nila alam na sagabal sila.

you just can't equate that to being irresponsible.

yes, for me you are irresponsible for being a tanga/stupid/ignorant while doing a task which requires a license...

dito nga sa opis, safety first, never do anything your are not tasked, trained and certified to do (license required), or else your life and the life of others are at stake, just like in driving...

[Stigg ma]

Yep!

pag bang tanga = irresponsible na?

may tao hindi nila alam na mali sila, hindi nila alam na sagabal sila.

you just can't equate that to being irresponsible.

yes, for me you are irresponsible for being a tanga/stupid/ignorant while doing a task which requires a license...

dito nga sa opis, safety first, never do anything your are not tasked, trained and certified to do (license required), or else your life and the life of others are at stake, just like in driving...

[badkuk]

thank you all for your valuable response to this survey

actually, i don't see any polling/voting on this thread -- i.e. the little buttons you click on to vote. anyone else see them? Could be a browser issue...

again, eliminate natin domino effect...

Are we talking in a legal sense, or in terms of social responsibility, morals, etc?

Legally, i believe evidence must be presented per case -- anything less would be prejudicial.
Morally, wouldn't it be wrong to judge someone an irresponsible driver, when you haven't actually seen him driving irresponsibly?

In both cases the only fair judgement you can make is that the driver parked irresponsibly -- no more, no less.

here is the premise: parking properly shows your respect to other motorist right? then improperly parking just shows you dont care about others like using two spaces, blocking other cars, parking on PWD slots, etc...

then if the second sentence is applied, while driving is it also that they dont care about other motorist?

this is not just a domestic phenomenon, this is also happening on other countries, even in the USA! but i want to know how filipinos think about it?

Sir, i totally agree with you -- both irresponsible parking and irresponsible driving show a lack of respect and compassion for the well-being of other motorists.

What i'n not comfortable with is the equation that irresponsible parker = irresponsible driver. imho that judgement should be meted out on a cas e to case basis.

irresponsible drivers can be "responsible" parkers too -- not because of good intentions, but self-interest. Once parked that car is a sitting duck -- why would they tempt fate by taking up two parking slots, parking on the streets, etc.?

[unmarked]

I wouldn't put it as irresponsible, but more like selfish. Self-serving kasi tayo pagdating sa mga ganyan, for the most part. Whatever makes it more convenient, and also, we find ways to bend the rules to serve us, not the majority.

Irresponsible siguro more like endangering others siguro, as a result of disregarding common etiquette/road rules. It also varies per location. Even if you follow driving etiquette, if you do not wear your searbelt, than there you go, irresposible yan. If you take a turn sa parking kahit na wrong way when everyone else had to take a longer route to reach that vacant spot, well that's just selfish.

Also, pag may nakita kang balikong parking, it does not tell you the whole story. Kung may naunang baliko ang parking natural lang na mapipilitan ka, unless you want your door to bang on the other car's fender or you want your Lola to get out the window.