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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it would appear, you were way ahead of the bike.
    it seems to me, the biker saw you, but despite enough time and distance, did not do anything to avoid you.
    so, what's the problem?
    Same conclusion. Even if he hit the left side of your car (the bike's right side) it is both possible for him to fall either left or right side.

    Are you trying to know who is at fault or who is lying?

    If you have insurance let them handle it. If you can prove, via your dash cam, of your speed, you can contest and prove police authorities you are the aggrieved party.

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    Well 2 problems

    I was making a legal right turn on red and the mc is arguing he had absolute right of way because he was green

    And 2 I entered the second lane as a bicycle that had just passed by decided to suddenly switch to the outermost lane

    He's done an estimate for about 40% the cost of a brand new bike of the same model, my own mechanic perused the job order and theorizes he may have hit me on purpose because based on his opinion, the damages sustained on the job order are possibly but unlikely attributed to the bike falling onto it's side. He's suspecting the bike may have had pre existing damage and is looking for a way to cover previous damages. That's why I'm asking if he could've been moving to the right instead of avoiding me to force a collision.

    Thanks for the input everyone! Much appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddlord11 View Post
    Well 2 problems

    I was making a legal right turn on red and the mc is arguing he had absolute right of way because he was green

    And 2 I entered the second lane as a bicycle that had just passed by decided to suddenly switch to the outermost lane
    there, umamin ka din. you did not see him coming and you failed to yield. you were even in the 2nd (innermost) lane. he was green, you were on red making a right turn. case closed.

    doctrine of whatever no longer applicable as what some shyster here said. it was overturned many years ago in the sc, so we were told. i may be wrong though.

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    50 meters is not enough for an mc to stop or change course if he was going the legal speed of 60 kph (city speed limit). you have to take that in consideration when dealing with motorbikes, that their stopping distances are further than 4 wheeled sedans equipped with abs/ebd/ abcdefg. don't judge other vehicles according to the specs of your car. especially if they are 18-wheelers with 30 tons of trailer behind. or for this matter, a 2-wheeled motor.
    Last edited by yebo; June 22nd, 2017 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddlord11 View Post
    Well 2 problems

    I was making a legal right turn on red and the mc is arguing he had absolute right of way because he was green

    And 2 I entered the second lane as a bicycle that had just passed by decided to suddenly switch to the outermost lane

    He's done an estimate for about 40% the cost of a brand new bike of the same model, my own mechanic perused the job order and theorizes he may have hit me on purpose because based on his opinion, the damages sustained on the job order are possibly but unlikely attributed to the bike falling onto it's side. He's suspecting the bike may have had pre existing damage and is looking for a way to cover previous damages. That's why I'm asking if he could've been moving to the right instead of avoiding me to force a collision.

    Thanks for the input everyone! Much appreciated!
    It is a "legal right turn" alright bro,- but "with caution"

    Hindi talaga magwo-work iyang ganyang arrangement dito sa Pilipinas,- dahil ang utak nating mga drivers,- kasama na ako riyan,- nauna ako sa kanto,- uuna ako sa iyo que se joda kahit na ikaw ay green and go pa at mabagal ko pang kukunin iyan,- magpreno ka sa likod, okay?.....

    Kaya ang ginawa ng iba sa intersection,- no right turn on red,- para tigil na lang at hindi katulad ng sinabi ko sa itaas.

    Kung sa ibang bansa mo ginawa iyan,- talagang bubungguin ka nila, dahil sila ang may "right of way" at kasalanan mo pa,- tama naman!


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    Last edited by CVT; June 22nd, 2017 at 10:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddlord11 View Post

    And 2 I entered the second lane as a bicycle that had just passed by decided to suddenly switch to the outermost lane
    lets say safe ka nakaliko pakanan, pero i think bigla ka nagswitch ng lane? hindi mo na napansin na may parating galing likod kaya na-cut mo, dahil naka-focus ka sa bike sa unahan na iniwasan mo.

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    "And 2 I entered the second lane as a bicycle that had just passed by decided to suddenly switch to the outermost lane"

    At first, na inis na rin siguro ung MC since green light sya running 60kph tapos biglang may sisingit na oto at 10kph?

    Okay, lusot na at nagslow down sya kaunti para sa iyo kaso eto ka nag swerve naman para iwasan ung MC na mabagal sa harap mo?

    Okay na sana kaso kumabig ka pa sa middle lane, in effect parang nag swerve ka nung biglang huminto bike sa harap mo.

    Di mo nanaman sya nakita na may mabilis na motor parating sa likod mo? Or di ka lumingon sa side or rear view mirror?

    Dapat nag bagal or full stop ka na lang and wait mag swerve if clear na with matching signal light.

    Dun siguro nahilo ung bike or MC sa likod mo kaya nabangga ka nya.

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