"Cagers and Riders Friendly Coexistence" Thread

[BlueBimmer]

GENERALIZED STATEMENT!!!


* sir Mazdamazda, here is the link about fuel consumption of bikes :
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...EL+CONSUMPTION

and actually, bikes aren't really a chick magnet. click this:
http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...=CHICK+MAGNETS

my ex(s) n current gf dont like bikes, wala kasi creature comforts daw, cant eat or drink or chill out daw. primarily kc wala din daw aircon. arte nga e hehe

[accs]

talaga there are actual cities here that ban helmets? nyah.

Actually it is not a total ban from using helmets but rather ban on specific type of helmet na covered ang mukha siguro to make identification easier. which is totally in adverse to what it requires to operate a motorcycle safely. well, heck! even our aniti-pollution masks might be against their ridiculous law!! kaya nga kami nag fullface to better protect our head and face. not for "porma" ang mga safety gears and jackets namin.

[Bogeyman]

sa Marikina city bawal daw ang nakafull faced na helmet, para daw maiwasan ang mga criminals on bikes na covered ang mukha. sa Manila din balita daw e me balak din gumaya..!!!! only in the Philippines!!!

Palibhasa hindi mahabol ng mga pulis yung mga criminals on wheels, pakikialaman na pati safety gear. Would they have you wear cycling helmets instead?

What do they propose to do in the event that a rider sustains a fractured jaw in a legitimate accident, dahil hindi siya naka full-face helmet?

[ILuvDetailing]

Dapat yung mga lawmakers ang mag basa ng thread na to... para alam nila mga sentiments ng mga riders/cagers.

[wasted_23]

Palibhasa hindi mahabol ng mga pulis yung mga criminals on wheels, pakikialaman na pati safety gear. Would they have you wear cycling helmets instead?

What do they propose to do in the event that a rider sustains a fractured jaw in a legitimate accident, dahil hindi siya naka full-face helmet?

yan na nga ang sentimyento namin. will they shoulder the expenses or whatever may occur in case of an accident? this law makers don't know nothing about safe riding. masabe lang na me nagawa silang bill. bull!

[Trials Jpn.]

Hello guys baguhan lang po ako dito. I'm a proud and active member of MCP. I both love cars and bikes and there was a time that I both race for money on private races. I don't use bikes on the streets anymore since I'm a Sunday motorcycle Trialist. I use vans, trucks and cars to move around and there were many times that I have encountered stupid drivers and riders (they are everywhere). BUT there are still many good and resposible drivers/bikers around. If both drivers and bikers can meet halfway and share the roads properly, maybe the roads will be a lot more safe.

I always look at cars and bikes 50/50 and I believe that not one is above the other. I have shared some "cheap" repair techniques for both cars and bikes at MCP. I'm a car/truck/bike dealer and exporter and was a pro mechanic before (now only for myself) and if you want to see my cheap repair style please visit this link http://motorcyclephilippines.com/for...ad.php?t=14658 . I also have shared some pictures of both cars and bikes especially Trials races at http://motorcyclephilippines.com/pho...r/2310/cat/500. I have included some nice rice burners there including a full race GTR Skyline (not mine) and my Evo, please take a look at the bikes and how we ride them and how safe they are. My handle name at MCP is Ronnel de Ramos. I hope to meet new friends who both like cars and bikes. More power.

[mazdamazda]

on the other hand... some biker groups in the US are pushing for the removal of the mandatory helmet law...

[accs]

eto pa ! dami talaga foolish people sa gobyerno!

TOTAL HELMET BAN IN BATAC< ILOCOS NORTE

Parang un dati na pinagba ban nila ang fog lamps at dark tint sa rides natin di ba?

[morrissey_05]

bogeyman, tsinita
honga, biruin nyo a high percent of injuries sustained in a crash are located in the jaw area pa naman. the full-faced helmet ban was started daw para yung mga criminals on wheels can easily identified. aside from the demeaning undertext (that most likely, a motorcyclists is a criminal on wheels) that this ban is projecting, its also a threat to biker safety.

mazda,
tama ka dun. there is a lobby nga in the US composed of riders advocating the mandatory use of helmets. what their reasoning is, i don't really bother to find out bec i will probably not agree with it.

[FPJ]

450K? shocks!!! sobra mahal naman nun...

how about big bikes?

Yes mas mahal pa nga yan sa mga 2nd hand car na model 2000 model na CIVIC... kaya kapag nakakita ka ng ganyang klaseng motorsiklo...medyo ingat at may sinabing tao yan...baka may boga pa! patay tayo

[odell]

lage ako may nakikita na group of bikers twing lumuluwas ako... convoy andame... :D astig

[Wolver888]

450K? shocks!!! sobra mahal naman nun...

how about big bikes?

Yep, isang pinagmamalaki ng Honda na Maxi Scooter. Nagiisa lang yung ganyang skut dito sa Baguio, mahal kasi ..... hehehehe.

Sa mga Bigbikes .... ranging from 16kms/liter to 20kms/liter.
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com...4&page=3&pp=40

[invictus]

just a few clarifications...

no doubt that this thread has been rather impassioned, but surely it has been an effective way of education for us. we believe that tsikot.com members are mature and responsible enough to look beyond the provocations and take the lessons and insights to be learned to heart. it is in this good faith that this thread will remain open with only a minimum of moderation.

a few points that must be clarified, however, fellow tsikot members:

FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, the point is that we share the road with others, whether we like it or not. perhaps you don't like motorcycle riders, or trucks and buses, or whatever, the point is not to like them if you don't want to, but simply to respect them and give them their space on the road that they are also entitled to as much as you are. note that "motorists" is not limited to car drivers only, the noun also includes motorcycle riders and users of other motorized vehicles that are authorized to run on our roads.

SECOND, it is a rule of the road and a part of proper driving protocol and good road etiquette to give motorcycles a full lane on the road. they are entitled to the full width of a lane just as cars are. it is improper to force a motorcycle to a narrow fraction of a lane on the mistaken notion that "they are small vehicles".

THIRD, to be sure, tsikot.com members have also made objectionable posts on this thread. on behalf of the tsikot.com membership and leadership, apologies are in order for not clearing up misunderstandings and misleading statements (including the original thread title) sooner. but let it be clear that this is not about how many wheels are superior; for every rider without a helmet, there's a driver without a seatbelt, for every overloaded motorcycle, there's an overloaded car or truck, for every motorcycle that cuts and weaves recklessly, there's a car that counterflows, yadda yadda, ad infinitum, point-counterpoint-point-counterpoint.

FOURTH, to the motorcycle riders, please spare the original thread starter of this discussion. i do not think the thread starter meant to dangle flame bait before you, i do not think the thread starter meant for this discussion to become this inflamed, i think the thread starter is willing to retract the statements made here and offer an apology for any misunderstandings that may have arisen because of them. at this point in this discussion, it is no longer important to know who the thread starter is, as far as this thread in this forum is concerned. this thread was split at the plea of the original thread starter.

FIFTH, we are grateful that motorcycle riders, like wolver888 and others, took the time to participate in our discussion here and to attempt to clear up misunderstandings in a mature and gentlemanly fashion. surely, valid points have been raised by both cager and rider alike, and definitely, the cagers, the majority of which probably have not ridden a motorcycle, have learned a lot from this lively discussion.

peace out, happy trails, happy driving, happy riding, whatever it is, remember that while the roads may not have been made for him or her, they were also not made for you.

Well said and well taken. This is how fora discussions should be.

[falken]

Magkano price range kaya ng Harleys ngayon? Last Holy Week may nakita akong group na naka Harley sa Subic, parang ang sarap mag convoy.

[Wolver888]

:cheers: To you Sir Chief Moderator. More power.

Ooops mali, Editor in Chief MBT pala.

[ILuvDetailing]

One of my friends customers has a Suzuki Hayabusa, 1000cc of muscle anybody in MCP owns this beast?

[O!lman]

Whoooh, ang haba na pala ng narating nitong thread na ito....

Sir ILD, si Tongressman Farinas merong Hayabusa 1000 at Yamaha R-1...

Salamat naman at medyo naayos na ang usapan dito...Thanks kay sir MBT at sya na ang namagitan! :cheers:

[wasted_23]

One of my friends customers has a Suzuki Hayabusa, 1000cc of muscle anybody in MCP owns this beast?

alam ko dati si love-love meron nito. and she claims that she did 330kph(?) sa star tollways on that "thing"!

[ILuvDetailing]

alam ko dati si love-love meron nito. and she claims that she did 330kph(?) sa star tollways on that "thing"!

That is very very possible.

[wasted_23]

gurl pa un ILD.... ako nga 170kph++ sa silang cavite, nginig baba ko! mwehehehe:D