Bikers on dangerous curves

[japeeps]

*oj88 sir lahat po ng cyclist dun sa video is nasa tamang lane.. Dun sa video ko wala... So medyo mahirap yata sundin ung nasa video if iniwasan mo na sila pero kinakain nila ung lane na kung saan ka umiwas..

Not against bikers actually i'll buy 2 folding bikes for me and my wife para maka exercise at iwas heart attack hehee

[yebo]

Nung nag-driving exam ako sa US may binusinahan ako na biker. Pinagalitan ako nung taga DMV huwag ko daw businahan kasi may rights daw yung biker same as any motor vehicle. Sabi sa akin treat the bicycle as you would treat a 4-wheeled vehicle, GIVE THEM THE SAME SPACE. So now kahit matagal na akong nasa Pinas i still do the same, i give bikers and motorcyclists the same courtesy and space that i would give any other vehicle on the road. May karapatan din sila gumitna. To you it may seem dangerous but to them they are just doing what you have the same rights to do if you were that person on the bike.

Kung 18-wheeler yung nasa gitna paakyat sa marcos hiway at gumagapang ito paakyat di mo din naman bubusinahan para tumabi siya di ba? You will wait until such time it is safe for you to overtake. So ganun din dapat, huwag ka mag-high blood kung may mabagal na biker sa harap kasi di ka naman magha-high blood kung mas malaki yung nasa harap mo.

[Ry_Tower]

Nung nag-driving exam ako sa US may binusinahan ako na biker. Pinagalitan ako nung taga DMV huwag ko daw businahan kasi may rights daw yung biker same as any motor vehicle. Sabi sa akin treat the bicycle as you would treat a 4-wheeled vehicle, GIVE THEM THE SAME SPACE. So now kahit matagal na akong nasa Pinas i still do the same, i give bikers and motorcyclists the same courtesy and space that i would give any other vehicle on the road. May karapatan din sila gumitna. To you it may seem dangerous but to them they are just doing what you have the same rights to do if you were that person on the bike.

Kung 18-wheeler yung nasa gitna paakyat sa marcos hiway at gumagapang ito paakyat di mo din naman bubusinahan para tumabi siya di ba? You will wait until such time it is safe for you to overtake. So ganun din dapat, huwag ka mag-high blood kung may mabagal na biker sa harap kasi di ka naman magha-high blood kung mas malaki yung nasa harap mo.

Yan nga turo sa defensive driving seminar. Treat them as a 4-wheel vehicle kasi sobrang luma na traffic laws natin at hindi na-uupdate pa nang tama. Pero dapat daw talaga (ideally) may biking lane at kung wala, sa gilid lang sila. Hindi puwede gumitna kasi mabagal nga, hindrance to smooth traffic flow. Yung malaking truck siyempre ibang usapan yun. Size niya problema eh.

Kaya defensive driving ka na nga lang and give them wide berth kasi talo ka sa kaso if nasagi sila, tapos malabo pa magkaroon biking lane dito sa Pinas. Wala sa plano nang mga lawmakers or planners mga ganyang bagay dito sa atin. Mas madami problema eh.

[japeeps]

Nung nag-driving exam ako sa US may binusinahan ako na biker. Pinagalitan ako nung taga DMV huwag ko daw businahan kasi may rights daw yung biker same as any motor vehicle. Sabi sa akin treat the bicycle as you would treat a 4-wheeled vehicle, GIVE THEM THE SAME SPACE. So now kahit matagal na akong nasa Pinas i still do the same, i give bikers and motorcyclists the same courtesy and space that i would give any other vehicle on the road. May karapatan din sila gumitna. To you it may seem dangerous but to them they are just doing what you have the same rights to do if you were that person on the bike.

Kung 18-wheeler yung nasa gitna paakyat sa marcos hiway at gumagapang ito paakyat di mo din naman bubusinahan para tumabi siya di ba? You will wait until such time it is safe for you to overtake. So ganun din dapat, huwag ka mag-high blood kung may mabagal na biker sa harap kasi di ka naman magha-high blood kung mas malaki yung nasa harap mo.

what if you already gave them more than enough space, then sila pa din yung lumapit sayo recklessly... or ikaw pa yung ginigitgit to the point na ikaw naman na yung walang space. People always talks about rights, but rights are not always absolute especially in public places. If I have to respect their rights on the road, they should respect mine as well.

[oj88]

In the video of the OP, the cyclists seems to be able to cope up with the traffic well so I don't see anything wrong aside from a few minor things like keeping distance from the Vios in front. It's true that it is generally recommend that cyclists stay at the right-most lane (LHD countries) whenever possible. That is a big gray area in the Philippines as the right-most lane is usually littered with road hazards. As a former cyclist myself (90's pa yun ha), I know first hand that there's no way you can keep your pace and momentum on the right-most lane. Every few meters, may hihinto na jeep or tricycle. In fact, I can't count how many occasions I was cut by PUVs. Other road hazards includes open storm grates, pedestrians, loose dirt/sand, debris, water puddles, etc.). So instead of weaving in and out of the right-most lane (which is construed by motorists as being unpredictable), cyclists tend to stay out of the rightmost lane more for practical and safety reasons.

As for the 2nd cyclist cutting the OP, I'll go out on the limb to say that it's probably the OP who should've provided him space. Just saying and I don't mean no offense. Again, they're keeping up with the traffic naman so the OP could've just followed him at a safe distance and matched his speed, and then overtake only when the cyclists went back to the outer lane.

Tip for all: Be the bigger man. More often than not, pride and the resulting road rage will just likely get us all into an accident.

[japeeps]

As for the 2nd cyclist cutting the OP, I'll go out on the limb to say that it's probably the OP who should've provided him space. Just saying and I don't mean no offense. Again, they're keeping up with the traffic naman so the OP could've just followed him at a safe distance and matched his speed, and then overtake only when the cyclists went back to the outer lane.

Tip for all: Be the bigger man. More often than not, pride and the resulting road rage will just likely get us all into an accident.

This is exactly what I did... Blow my horn to warn them that they are getting close to my car and let them pass..
Also the purpose of this thread naman is to talk about safetly concerns and road limitations at not to promote hatred to bikers. as I have said, I'll be one of them in a few days kse I ordered na my bikes (2 bikes for me and my wife). Sa video if you'll watch closer, the third biker cut me on the right without any signal, considering na wide ang mga dashcam sa video pala sobrang lapit na nya what more sa actual.

[oj88]

I hope I am not being misconstrued as somebody defending the cyclists in the video. We all have different thresholds. One infraction may be offensive to some but still somewhat tolerable to others. I can tolerate them more because I've been there and I know how it is from a cyclist's perspective. Though, I'll concede to say that I was not there when it happened so my opinion about what actions you could've taken could be unfounded or even irrelevant.

But let me just iterate that we can all benefit from being more patient and forgiving.... sadly, two of the many good values that are becoming less and less apparent with each passing generation of motorists.