C5-Kalayaan, Back to square 1!

[Innoko]

After so many traffic scheme experiments, MMDA finally decided to bring back the U-turn slot along C5 near Kalayaan. With matching "U" traffic light ha...Don't know what happened pero nawala na yung yellow boys ni Binay (good riddance!)after creating chaos sa area for a long while. Because of the two U turn slots, vehicles coming from Makati and SLEX going north tends to go to the middle or rightmost lane to avoid those using the u-turn. Here's the problem, right at the opposite side of the road, ginagawang terminal ng FX vans yung rightmost lane! so presto! trafficccccc na naman! Di ba genius talaga tong mga blue boys na to? Huli ng huli ng mga number coding violators, tapos papipilahin naman kung saan saan yung mga magagaling na FX van! Hayyy buhay! Sana nagbabasa ng thread na to yung mga tao sa taas! Balak kong kodakan yung area at ipadadala ko sa media!

[niky]

Actually, despite the traffic in the area, I thought the previous scheme was just right. It's traffic backing up from Shaw that helps create problems for that intersection.

[mazdamazda]

IMO... most of the U-Turn schemes that the MMDA implemented in EDSA is working pretty well. Dunno what is the case there in C5-Kalayaan.

[ian_rex]

IMO... most of the U-Turn schemes that the MMDA implemented in EDSA is working pretty well. Dunno what is the case there in C5-Kalayaan.

see the entire width of EDSA? gawin mong isa't kalahati yun, less the PUBs but same volume of cars at rush hour.

anyways, oo masyadong malapit yung U-Turn slot sa intersection.

[niky]

The problem in C5-Kalayaan is that the U-Turn slot is in the middle of the road, with no underpass-overpass to back it up. Thus, the U-Turns take up a ridiculous amount of space, because 18-wheelers often use them. This causes traffic tie-ups and a lot of problems because the U-Turn is right beside the stoplight, and those trucks get stalled there waiting, causing traffic on both sides.

What's mind boggling is that these 18-wheelers could conceivably use Shaw as a place to U-Turn instead, seeing as how it's just one kilometer away, but the traffic at Shaw and the low clearance of the default U-Turn slots before and after makes it hard for the truckers to use.... that's IF you actually need U-Turns.

The better alternative to having trucks clog the road all the way to Shaw, or to having them stuck halfway across a U-Turn? Why not just let them turn left in the first place?

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Actually, this is the problem all the way down C5, all the way up to Katipunan. You have perfectly deserted intersections under most of the overpasses, so why have U-Turns in the middle of the road? Most of the U-Turns are also too close to the intersection they replace, meaning that people will U-Turn and immediately swerve right to get to where they're going. If the U-Turns are all only under the bridges (which are all less than two kilometers from each other), then people going right will only come from the right side of the road.

It's all so strangely simple that the MMDA hasn't thought of this.

In the meantime, because the intersections are all closed and there are no pedestrian overpasses, walkers have to do a sign of the cross before they try to get from one side to the other, as they dodge swerving jeeps, trucks and speeding cars down the now non-stop and non-intersectioned C5.

[Bravoexo]

Another flyover... ?

But it's the same at Mindanao / Congressional Ave intersection, buses Edsa/Muñoz can't do a left to Novaliches... so they turn right at Mindanao and take the u-turn (coz the u turn at Congressional is too small... )

So why not... only buses/trucks should be allowed to cross C-5... vans, pick-up trucks, cars turn right, take the u-turn to get through Kalayaan...

[bajumbo]

Another flyover... ?

Sir di pede lagyan ng flyover dito sa part ng C-5 na ito... kc dito lang kikita ung mga nanghuhuli ng coding violators kc Makati itong area na ito. Pansin mo pag galing ka SLEX to C-5 to Pasig ito lang ang way para makahuli ng coding ung mga traffic enforcers.
Kapag naglagay ng Flyover dyan. merry, merry na tau hanggang Ortigas, mind you walang coding-coding sa Pasig di ba fafa

[Innoko]

As i observe it, maayos naman sana yung u-turn since dalawang magkasunod yun. Meaning, doble ang volume ng pwedeng umikot. ang problema nga lang, yung mga magagaling na pumapayag na gawing terminal ng FX yung right side ng road going to QC...

Di nga pala pwede umikot sa ilalim ng bridge sa Pasig side. As it is right now, sobrang traffic na at masikip pa. I think a flyover is a better alternative. Yung diretso north and south ways. Sa ilalim na lang umikot ng umikot yung mga liliko.

[Mguy]

As I said before, close the intersection. The traffic will find other ways to get to kalayaan or c-5.

[orly_andico]

hindi ba dapat bawal yang mga lecheng 18 wheeler na yan before 9pm?

[oldblue]

para sa kin ok lang naman yun traffic scheme nila, I can do less than 10 minutes from SLEX to Katipunan kapag gabi na.

U-turn slots are ineffective pag rush hour and lalo na nga pag labasan na ng trucks. but that's a good trade-off na considering most of the day eh dire-diretso naman ang daloy ng traffic. I hate intersections and stoplights.

[Mguy]

There is a provision for an off-ramp after Market market. I believe that could solve the traffic coming from kalayaan turning left to northbound c-5.

[niky]

The only big problem is trucks and vehicles turning left to Kalayaan, which causes the northbound snarl-up and backs traffic up to Caltex sometimes on the southbound side.

They should just close that intersection, IMHO, since it's between two flyovers and make people go around on the flyover (Market Market) or under it (Pasig side).

While EDSA's U-Turn scheme is relatively mild, there are goof-ups... the U-Turn near SM City is too close to the interchange and the *$#&%& bus terminal, causing a tight constriction where people are swerving every which way. The U-Turn scheme under the Quezon Ave. Flyover is likewise headache inducing... as are almost all of the U-Turns on Quezon Ave itself. Imagine, they took the trouble of making six lane sections, only to have two (and often one) useable to traffic? Madness.

[bajumbo]

sir di nga pede ung flyover kc luki nekosyo mga friendly manggagantso

[Innoko]

Mukhang may nagbabasa ngang taga MMDA sa thread na ito ah....dumaan ako kanina sa C5-Kalayaan going north, walang traffic! at yung illegal FX terminal, isinampa sa bangketa kaya walang nakaharang sa kalye! He..he..he..Ang masakit, yung papuntang Makati naman ang sobrang traffic...umabot hanggang Ortigas! Ayos ah....hanggang kelan kaya to?

[oldblue]

Mukhang may nagbabasa ngang taga MMDA sa thread na ito ah....dumaan ako kanina sa C5-Kalayaan going north, walang traffic! at yung illegal FX terminal, isinampa sa bangketa kaya walang nakaharang sa kalye! He..he..he..Ang masakit, yung papuntang Makati naman ang sobrang traffic...umabot hanggang Ortigas! Ayos ah....hanggang kelan kaya to?

masolve lang yan ni Binay kung gagawan nya ng paraan. before from C5-Kalayaan to Buendia flyover, mabilis lang pero ngaun nun nakita ng mga taga-Makati na naging major highway yan ginawang business zone ala palengke.

[niky]

Nandyan pa yung U-Turn? I used to drive southbound there every other day when I lived with my wife in our temporary apartment in QC (other days I commuted). Talagang ma-traffic yan southbound (minsan, hanggang Vargas pa yung congestion) kung may nag-u-u-turn.