bakit mahal ang kotse sa pinas?

[boydapa]

walang kwentang tanong lang. bago lng kasi ako nahilig din sa auto industry kaya di ko masyado alam ins and out neto sa pinas...

lahat naman tayo may kamag anak sa states kahit papaano. bakit ganun pag naikukumpara yun presyo eh bakit ang mahal ng oto sa pinas eh samantalang ang liit lang ng sahod dito kumpara sa kanila na ang sweldo at presyo ng kotse eh hindi nagkakalayo. yun pambili mo ata ng corolla eh pwede ka na makabili ng camry kng nasa us ka something like that.

parang oil cartel din ba nun mga manufacturers dito? bakit ganun sila? alam na nga nila na 3rd worl itong pinas eh pang first world naman presyon nila.

[ronw123w124]

Pano ba naman di mamahal ang kotse sa atin sa dami ng tax na pinapatong. Pero if you compare car prices here to car prices in Singapore lumalabas na ang mura ng kotse sa atin.

[mazingerZ]

Hindi naman siguro mahal if you compare it to our other Asian neighbors. Its more of how the standards of living natin. A clerk in Singapore or in other Asian countries could afford to buy a car, pero dito sa pinas hindi kaya. Its more of an economic problem. Compare mo rin presyo ng 1 liter of gasoiline in the UK (96 pesos or 1 sterling pound) vs here in pinas (P45.00/liter na), but they could afford it more. If only we could harness the potential of our vast natural and biological and mental (hehehe) resources. In the Philippines, the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. Hay buhay . . .

[66bunny]

Remove the jeepneys, tricycle, pedicabs, colorum bus and taxis.

Then price of brand new and second hand cars will drop.

Why?

Because there's a BIG DEMAND for transportation. When there's a need, the distributors will compete to each other. Think of cel providers. Smart vs Globe vs Sun. At the end of the day, the consumer will benefit from it.

Just look at the XRM-style motorcyles and scooters flooding our street.

[theveed]

Hehe you think cars are expensive there?

A Hyundai Getz costs almost Php1M here in Singapore hehehe. A Civic will run you P1.4M hehe

[XTO]

hindi nagkakalayo for ex. a base corolla in the us starts at $14,405 which is roughly P648,225. labor code differs in every country.... a simple employee in the us with a minimum wage (per hour) can actually buy a new car of his choice (depende sa sipag at will) say he's earing at $9 an hour, thats equivalent to $72 in 8 hours. how much is it if you convert it to peso? that's more than P3K a day. how about more if you're on a salary basis (monthly)? here how many people could earn 3K and above per day?

[niky]

Taxes.

And there's a good reason for high taxes. It keeps our oil imports lower than they would be if every Tomas, Pepe and Juan had a car.

The US is an anomaly amongst rich nations... they have some of the lowest taxes on gasoline and cars. It's simply because their country runs on the road... long distances, long commutes... people need cars for their everyday life... which is why they're especially hard hit by rising oil prices.

[mbeige]

Niky, not just lowest taxes on gasoline and cars - mostly everything else.

However with that US$ weakening, it looks like I'll have to work more so I can save up for when I visit the mother land once more.

You're right, fuel prices are soaring now reaching $3.80/gallon for diesel. I guess this is both a reflection of the weakening US dollar and the increasing cost of diesel as home heating oil/fuel.

But yes, going back on topic, taxes mainly increase the prices. But have you wondered, where does that tax money go?

[niky]

Hehehe... straight to Congress?

Our problem is that we aren't going to see any gains unless the government starts using the taxes properly, and stops giving dole-outs every time PGMA's waning popularity seems in danger of going through the floor.

And they're combating inflation through lowering of taxes... which hurts our budget deficit, to boot.

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The US situation is sad. The current free-fall in the value of the dollar, the apparent inability of Fed rate cuts to curb inflation, the housing market meltdown, the runaway increase of job-outsourcing and the rising price of oil all have quite a few people crying "The End is Near!".

Other countries are better cushioned against oil instability due to natural reserves or a lesser dependency of individual consumers on fuel... but a meltdown in the US willl inevitably herald a worldwide recession.

[boydapa]

very good points! i see... parang car driven economy...

pero i have this feeling na meron underlying politic0-social thing na dito sa atin only the rich should be able to buy unlike sa U.S. na kahit poor kaya bumili. para bang yun system natin dito sa pinas ensures that only the rich will be the ones who can afford--- something like that.

what i mean by poor is kahit naman maganda work mo dito sa pinas sa liit ng sahod eh hindi ka talaga makakabili ng auto na halos milyon na ang presyo.

[mazdamazda]

very good points! i see... parang car driven economy...

pero i have this feeling na meron underlying politic0-social thing na dito sa atin only the rich should be able to buy unlike sa U.S. na kahit poor kaya bumili. para bang yun system natin dito sa pinas ensures that only the rich will be the ones who can afford--- something like that.

what i mean by poor is kahit naman maganda work mo dito sa pinas sa liit ng sahod eh hindi ka talaga makakabili ng auto na halos milyon na ang presyo.

:idea:

Maybe the Philippines is just a developing / third world country wherein it's pointless to compare the income here to those living in a highly developed country like the United States of America?

[mazingerZ]

The way things are going, what with the continued increase of fuel prices and economic goods, di na ata tayo makakabangon. . . . So depressing. At any rate, Pinoys are known as a resilient people, sige lang kaya pa naman siguro.

[Mguy]

Ang bad trip nito, kapag nag de-value ang peso, ang bilis na tumataas ng presyo ng kotse, which is to be expected.

Pero ngayon na ang laki ng tinaas ng value ng peso (P42 something na versus P55 a few months ago), keysa bumaba presyo ng kotse, aba, nag announce na mag-iincrease pa daw presyo. Ano ba yan?!?

[x3mtoxic]

True but not entirely, meron po mas mahal na kotse sa ibang bansa, here in singapore more than 200% ang price ng car compare to the philippines..
Example na lng sa Honda.. let us just compare the 1.8 VTi-s (M)

Singapore price = $ 79,000 SGD
Philippine price = PHP 849,000

$80 000 Singapore dollars = 2.3612912 million Philippine pesos

using foreign exchange
1 Singapore dollar = 29.8897621 Philippine pesos

Singapore price ng civic
http://www.honda.com.sg/price_sheet.asp

Honda Civic 1.8-litre VTi-S MT $79,000

and here is Honda Philippine price
http://www.hondaphil.com/prices/pricelist.htm
Honda Civic 1.8-litre VTi-S MT PHP 849,000

Sa tingin ko okay pa din price ng car sa atin.