pag-neutral ng 'matic?

[qwerter]

pwede po bang i-neutral ang 'matic na car habang tumatakbo cya?
feel ko kc mas macoconserve ang momentum nya pag naka neutral e...
for that matter, pag ni-neutral ko habang umaandar, pede ko bang i lagay uli sa drive habang tumatakbo at naka neutral?
ginagwa ko kc i2 e... pero ni-didrive ko lang pag mga 1k rpm nalang....
thoughts po?

[alwayz_yummy]

just like manual pwede, pero not recommended sa real world. safety reasons.

ok lang n->d->n..bahala na a/t mo maadjust sa tamang gear. pero safety comes first...di ka makakaalis agad when the need arises...natural reaction ng tao sa bingit ng emergency, matataranta, left mo lang sa d, kapag need mo ng power, nandyan....

[ILuvDetailing]

puts more wear and tear on your transmission, and yup for safety reasons.

think of it this way, the money you save on gas bills would pale in comparison to the cost of repairing / replacing a transmission.

[alwayz_yummy]

tama...di lahat ng pagtitipid sa gas ok...may balik din yan sa ibang bagay.

[yebo]

that is one of the best ways to DESTROY your auto tranny. do a search, meron na lumang thread about do's and don'ts with an automatic transmission.

don'ts of an auto tranny
- never shift to N when vehicle is still moving. shifting to N starves the slush box of transmission fluid and can cause bearing damage.
- never shift to P when vehicle is moving. shifting to P, well it's self explanatory. throwing a monkey wrench inside has the same results.
- when parking on a downhill/uphill never shift to P before engaging the hand brake. engage the hand brake first then shift to P
- never tow the car with the driven wheels down, this can cause major bearing damage (pump is not working when engine is off so the bearings will have no lubrication).

[OTEP]

Post mo naman plate number ng kotse mo para 'pag nakita ko sa ads, hindi ko na pag-iinteresan. hehehe.

Seriously, that's one heck of a way to destroy a transmission.

When shifting in and out of 'N', you should be fully stopped with your foot on the brake pedal. Some vehicles will not even allow you to move the shifter out of 'N' if you do not observe this. But safety devices like these are not mandatory in our market so safety is up to you.

You can flat tow an auto tranny in an emergency but never for an extended period and not at excessive speeds. Yung iba kasi nakabalagbag na sa EDSA ayaw pa ipa-galaw dahil matic daw.

[rollyms]

Otep, pag naka stop down hill due to traffic and naka neutral ang A/t pwede bang mag free wheeling for short distance. Most of the times the car in front would move a few feet. Ayaw ko naman malaki ang gap between them and me kasi daming sumisingit or sometimes businahan ka ng nasa likod. Gusto ko sanang iwasan ang frequent shifting between N -D - N.

[jonski]

tama ba ginagawa ko kung sa stop light eh nilalagay ko sa neutral pag matic?

[number001]

tama ba ginagawa ko kung sa stop light eh nilalagay ko sa neutral pag matic?

meron din isang mahabang thread tungkol dyan.

For stop and go traffic conditions...

some say it better to depress the brakes while in "D" bec. the transmission will not wear out from constant shifting (bet. D and N). They also said by using the brakes and not shifting to "N" will help reduce any unnecessary wear to the transmission.


On the other hand, some say shift to "N" as not to overheat or overwork the transmission.

Anyway, I just leave it in "D" and use the brakes to stop. If its a massive traffic jam, pull the hand brake up and put to "P" (and turn off the ignition-if the traffic is that bad).

Paging OTEP! Your inputs are needed. :D

Ps: I know if someone who likes to shift to "N" to coast to a stop on a flat surface, also while on a downhill on bridges. Thanks to this thread, I will tell them these are bad habits that can damage their vehicle.

[claRkEnt]

Most of the times the car in front would move a few feet. Ayaw ko naman malaki ang gap between them and me kasi daming sumisingit or sometimes businahan ka ng nasa likod. Gusto ko sanang iwasan ang frequent shifting between N -D - N.

Then, better to keep it at "D" and let your foot do the work sa brake pedal (that way, iwas frequent shifting between N-D-N di ba?). Also, di naman ganun kahirap yan, mas convenient pa nga compared to M/T.

[rollyms]

Then, better to keep it at "D" and let your foot do the work sa brake pedal (that way, iwas frequent shifting between N-D-N di ba?). Also, di naman ganun kahirap yan, mas convenient pa nga compared to M/T.

In routes na normal kung daanan ma calculate ko na ang tagal ng stop. Pag medyo matagal (meaning at least 1 minute) nag neutral ako. This is to relieve the pressure on the trasmission. I also think para maka tipid sa gas. Kaya lang di ko alam kung paano ang matipid ko sa gas. Pag di ako familiar sa place normally naka "D" ako. Paano kaya katipid sa gas ang naka stop at naka "D" compared sa naka neutral?

[rollyms]

Notice ko din pag naka sunod ako sa mga naka A/T ang iba pag na-traffic umiilaw ang reverse lights nila. I think nag "P" sila. Is it a good practice to shift to P sa traffic compared to N at naka handbrake? Kaya pag go na ilaw muna ang reverse lights nila bago umandar

[alwayz_yummy]

pag may eco mode, gamitin mo yun....otherwise, d ka lang...

p ka lang naman kung heavy traffic,e... kung normal traffic, N is fine....d kung alam mong split-second lang na traffic light...

[OTEP]

rollyms,
Yes, you can freewheel it a bit since the a/t pump and cooler are running. Just make sure you are fully stopped when it comes time to shift to 'D'.

jonski, number001,
Just put it in 'N' when at a full stop so that the engine and tranny will be unloaded. Wearing out the tranny? Maybe that's the same guy that said fiddling with the thermostat on the a/c will wear it out. Well it can, but not within at least 5 years and not if you follow maintenance procedures at proper intervals. Our 1981 Benz has never given us problems regarding shifter or tranny wear. Yes, we put it in 'N' when stopped for extended periods (e.g. at a traffic light). The engine has so much torque, I get tired trying to hold it down with the brakes.

Shifting to 'N' and engaging the parking brake also puts your vehicle in a dead man's setting. Meaning, should anything happen to the driver while stopped (lose consciousness, get crashed into, etc.), the vehicle will not 'run away' as it could if the vehicle was in gear.

Shifting to 'P' is a bit of an overkill already. And I know of one who accidentally went to 'R' when it was time to move forward. Konti na lang, aksidente na. And some people have a bad habit of using 'P' as their parking brake. This is also a nice way of ruining a perfect transmission. The parking brake should always be enaged before shifting into 'P'. Never leave the vehicle resting on its transmission. Baka hindi niyo na ma-shift out of 'P' afterwards.

[oliver1013]

Yon kaya pala nung minsang nagpark ako sa incline nag "P" ako bago handbrake. Pag alis ako "TOG" yung tumunog pag lipat ko kambyo. Sabi ko anu yun? heheh yun pala napuwersa yung tranny ko.

[slicker_boi]

Logically, you should be able to shift to N during a red light without damaging the transmission.

And OTEP is right, shifting to P in traffic can create confusion. There are already a lot of cases when people shift from P to R instead of D and met accidents. So shift to P only when you park the car.

As for M/T, will shifting to neutral and go freewheeling wear the transmission also?

[ts1n1ta]

is it even possible to shift to N while moving? I can't do this with the f150...
edit: okay read the whole thread.. possible pala sa iba.

I used to just step on the brakes in traffic until nakabangga ako ng Pajero...luckily tumama sa spare tire nya sa likod. Ngayon I shift it to N na lang.

As for M/T, will shifting to neutral and go freewheeling wear the transmission also?

Now this, i do a lot.

[rion]

I've been doing "N" for 4 years and just realized it's no good recently...

because it was a bad habbit, I still sometimes do it, unconsciously... though Didn't hurt any vehicles yet... fortunately...

- never shift to P when vehicle is moving. shifting to P, well it's self explanatory. throwing a monkey wrench inside has the same results.

tried that accidentaly... on 5Km/h. the engine turned off by itself...

[OTEP]

As for M/T, will shifting to neutral and go freewheeling wear the transmission also?

Freewheeling will not wear the transmission since it is not engaged. However, this practice is illegal in some areas (e.g. Subic and most of the U.S.). This is due to safety reasons. I know enforcement is next to impossible but abiding by it is not that difficult and makes for a safer journey.

[number001]

In my experience, previous Honda models with automatic trans. such as '94-'97 Accord or EG Civic, allows for shifting to N while the vehicle is moving.