Same *** Marriage Performed in QC!

[chua_riwap]

I saw this on GMA News, ikinasal sina "Erika" & "Shakira". Nak ng.....parehong lalaki!

Mas malaki pa yung "bride" kaysa groom.



http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/s...ews_story6.htm

2 Lalaki Ikinasal sa Quezon City

Posibleng pagmulan ng panibagong debate tungkol sa same *** marriage sa Pilipinas ang ginawang pagpapakasal ng dalawang lalaki sa isang simbahan sa Quezon City ikinasal ang dalawang magsing-irog na itinago na lamang sa mga pangalang “Erika” at “Shakira” sa Metropolitan Community Church sa Project 6,Quezon City dalawang linggo na ang nakakaraan.

Kinumpirma ni Gabriela party-list Rep. Liza Maza ang same *** marriage at sinabing kasama siya sa mga ninang na kinuha ng dalawang nagpakasal.
Nabatid na si Erika ay pastor sa nasa bing simbahan at disente naman umano ang kanyang napangasawa. “`Yung isa sa kanila happened to be my friend at kinuha akong isa sa kanilang ninang,” ani Maza. Ikinasal umano sina Erika at Shakira sa harap ng kanilang Church bishop na nagngangalang Bishop Martin, na isang dayuhan.

Aminado si Maza na hindi legal ang naganap na kasalan sa pagitan nina Erika at Shakira at labag ito sa Civil Code of the Philippines kung saan ang kasal ng lalaki at babae lamang ang kinikilala. “I know naman na hindi valid ang kanilang kasal, pero being an advocate for the right of the Third ***, pumayag ako,” dagdag pa ni Maza. Ibinunyag pa ni Maza na kasama sa mga ninang ay isang seminarista sa isang theological school sa bansa.
“That is something spiritual. Inilalapit nila ang kanilang union sa Higher Being,” ayon kay Maza kaya dapat umanong igalang ng lipunan dahil mayroon naman aniyang freedom of religion sa bansa. Para kay Maza, walang immoral sa nangyaring kasalan ng dalawa na pareho ang kasarian dahil mas hindi katanggap-tanggap umano ang mga taong gobyerno na nagsasamantala at nagnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan.

“Sino ang mas immoral, ang mga magnanakaw dyan sa gobyerno o ang dalawang nilalang na pinabasbasan ang kanilang kasal kahit pareho sila ng kasarian?” tanong pa ni Maza.

Hindi naman pinalagpas ni Manila Rep. Bienvenido Abante, na Obispo ng Bible Mode Church, ang nangyaring kasalan dahil bukod sa labag umano ito sa batas ng tao ay nilabag ng nagkasal at ng mga ikinasal ang kautusan ng Diyos.
“Violations `yan sa Bible teaching at lalong labag `yan sa batas ng mga tao. They might be liable for administrative and criminal charges,” ani Abante kasabay ng pagsa sabing hindi dapat irehistro sa National Statistics Office (NSO) ang nasabing kasalan.

Sa website ng Metropolitan Community Church of Quezon City ay ganito ang nakasaad na pambungad:
Mabuhay!!
Metropolitan Community Church is a place for all people. It is our founding belief that all are welcome at the table whether they are GLBT, Straight, Questioning, a member of MCC, a member of another church, or not affiliated with a church at all. The love of God is NOT conditional. All are welcome!
MCCQC is an affiliate member church under the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches. We are a Christian denomination with special minis try to the LGBT.
MCC moves in the mainstream of Christianity of Catholic (Universal) and Protestant (Liberal) Founded on the inte rest of offering church home to all who confess and believe.

[_Cathy_]

It's so hard to give a comment on this issue. I am afraid that I might end up offending some people. I am just glad to be Roman Catholic.

[p_borj]

It's so hard to give a comment on this issue. I am afraid that I might end up offending some people. I am just glad to be Roman Catholic.

+1. Also glad to be a Roman Catholic, mahirap talagang mag-comment kasi iba yung mga paniniwala ng iba.

[B52]

Abante Tonite
Sa website ng Metropolitan Community Church of Quezon City ay ganito ang nakasaad na pambungad:
Mabuhay!!
Metropolitan Community Church is a place for all people. It is our founding belief that all are welcome at the table whether they are GLBT, Straight, Questioning, a member of MCC, a member of another church, or not affiliated with a church at all. The love of God is NOT conditional. All are welcome!
MCCQC is an affiliate member church under the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches. We are a Christian denomination with special minis try to the LGBT.
MCC moves in the mainstream of Christianity of Catholic (Universal) and Protestant (Liberal) Founded on the inte rest of offering church home to all who confess and believe.

Interesting facts about MCCQC

Read this link http://directory.poz.com/napwa/compa...oId=4141739250

National Association of People with AIDS
NAPWA

Metropolitan Community Church of the Quad Cities (MCCQC) is a member congregation of the MCC Churches (UFMCC).

[Memphis Raines]

No Comment.

[XTO]

I saw this on GMA News, ikinasal sina "Erika" & "Shakira". Nak ng.....parehong lalaki!

Mas malaki pa yung "bride" kaysa groom.



http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/s...ews_story6.htm

kung proud sila sa ginawa nila. bakit itinago pa nila tunay na mga pangalan?

[tidus1203]

I am not pro-gay marriage but I am not anti either... Basta sakin as long as they don't trouble me bahala sila sa buhay nila. If they want to marry go ahead!

[james00112233]

I am not pro-gay marriage but I am not anti either... Basta sakin as long as they don't trouble me bahala sila sa buhay nila. If they want to marry go ahead!

+1... As long as they don't hurt other people, why bother them. Atleast masaya sila sa isa't isa, hindi katulad ng iba na nagpakasal tapos after ng ilang taon eh maghihiwalay dahil may third party.

[niky]

I don't see any problem with it.

-

Actually, let me clarify...


I'm as homophobic as the next guy. And due to my Catholic upbriging, I believe that the only reason to get married is to provide a supportive and nurturing environment to raise kids (why get married if you don't want kids?)...

In this sense, by my own idea of marriage, most marriages are wrong... many people get married for romantic reasons with no plans of having children or without thought as to whether or not they are compatible, can live together in harmony and can raise kids. Or they get married for other reasons... duty to family... or merely for companionship... without true love between the partners and the willingness to compromise and sacrifice... such marriages often fall apart.

BUT:

They're not hurting me. It's their life. And it's not my place to tell them what they can or can't do. Single partner marriages are part of our culture... but that's just our culture. Other cultures practice polygamy... matriarchal polygamy, etcetera... and to claim which is more right than another is to make assumptions about marriage, ***uality and child-rearing based on our personal pre-conceptions and not based on a logical ethical framework.

Live and let live. It's better that gay men get married to each other than having them marry women, hiding their homo***uality, and then coming out, breaking up the marriage and any family that has resulted from it.

I can understand why they hid their names. With how homophobic Philippine cuture is, they might be heckled, harrassed or even attacked if their names were publicly known.

[Horsepower]

yep, Live and let live.

[shadow]

It's so hard to give a comment on this issue. I am afraid that I might end up offending some people. I am just glad to be Roman Catholic.

+1. Also glad to be a Roman Catholic, mahirap talagang mag-comment kasi iba yung mga paniniwala ng iba.

bakit naman kayo matatakot sa tatamaan eh pinili nila yun so, they should be open sa mga critism..

live and let live yeah...but still bakla pa rin sila! kadiri!

fencing na lang sila...

[dark_akatsuke24]

i don't mind their business,bahala sila anu gawin nila sa buhay nila....as long wala sila naagrabyado

[Lucius]

Pag madaming bakla, mas konti ang competition lalo na para sa mga panget.... Kase madami baklang gwaping like si Piolo na poser as straight deny to death na pati si Zanjoe hinawaan daw...... Sila na daw ngayon... Un ang usap usapan

[Negus]

Pag madaming bakla, mas konti ang competition lalo na para sa mga panget.... Kase madami baklang gwaping like si Piolo na poser as straight deny to death na pati si Zanjoe hinawaan daw...... Sila na daw ngayon... Un ang usap usapan

Don't take this the wrong way, but your post was way too gay. Sa Showbiz tsismis thread dapat yan. :gayfight: Chiiikaa Miiinuttee!!!!

[niky]

bakit naman kayo matatakot sa tatamaan eh pinili nila yun so, they should be open sa mga critism..

live and let live yeah...but still bakla pa rin sila! kadiri!

fencing na lang sila...

I think you misunderstand the meaning of the words "live and let live"...

It means they have no business knowing what you do at home with your wife, and you don't have to know what they do in their own time.

Of course, if you're reaaaaally that interested...

[Negus]

last time I checked in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the word marriage is the social union between a man and a woman.

but the Wikipedia entry of the word is listed as "Marriage is a social union or legal contract between individuals that creates kinship." Maybe gay marriage supporters petitioned it to be that way thus reflecting more of current changes in society.

I think what irks most conservatives is the usage of the word and the ceremonies involving a priest (or dressed as one). Maybe if they call it partnership or union, will it become more acceptable?

[moejun2]

something tells me that shadow had a bad experience with a gay at some point in his life.

[Gerbo]

This is a very difficult topic to comment.

From my point of few, sana iwasan na yon paggamit sa term na "marriage" for unconventional pairs. Puede naman "union".

I do not give a damn for companionship. But simulating a family would posed some problems. Is there a long-term study to know the psychological effects of the kids added to the union which are raised as such by the couple?

[renzo_d10]

Totoo sabi ni Maza. Mas masahol pa ginagawa ng gobyerno na magnakaw kaysa sa pagpapakasal na may parehong ari.

I`m not pro nor against it. I`m in the " doesn't care " group

niky :: like who? rustom padilla a.k.a bebe gandanghari. Who at first married who? Then ended up seperated. :hysterical:

Agree with tidus, as long as they don't affect me, whatever they do I don't care.

Cheers.

[niky]

last time I checked in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the word marriage is the social union between a man and a woman.

but the Wikipedia entry of the word is listed as "Marriage is a social union or legal contract between individuals that creates kinship." Maybe gay marriage supporters petitioned it to be that way thus reflecting more of current changes in society.

I think what irks most conservatives is the usage of the word and the ceremonies involving a priest (or dressed as one). Maybe if they call it partnership or union, will it become more acceptable?

That's the problem... marriage in some cultures is not just between one man and one woman... In Islamic and old Hebrew societies, polygamy was widely accepted... in some Chinese tribes and a few other cultures, polygamy with a single woman having multiple husbands is practiced.

Marriage is not an idea that is linked to one culture... and it is not always done with a Catholic priest... so it is erroneous to think to apply it to everyone else, equally. While I do not agree with polygamy myself... I cannot condemn it... though if it infringes upon the rights of one of the partners (if it is a forced marriage... but such things are possible even in monogamous cultures), then it may be wrong.