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  1. Join Date
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    My grandfather died 5 years ago and he left a kia picanto in his garage. I tried to start it kanina however it only cranks. I already filled it with fresh gasoline 4 liters but it still would not start. Engine oil is fine. Fuel line is fine no leaks. This was in good running condition before he left the mortal world.

    Any troubleshooting tips?


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    check fuel line, electrical lines like spark plugs, ht wires, distributor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    check fuel line, electrical lines like spark plugs, ht wires, distributor.

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    It cranks good. How to check spark plugs ba? Ito mahirap mag diy pag walang tamang tools hehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by suysuy View Post
    It cranks good. How to check spark plugs ba? Ito mahirap mag diy pag walang tamang tools hehe


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    sana bro hindi mo muna pina andar.

    kapag ganyan, pinapatakan ng konting oil sa spark plug hole, tapos iikutin yung crankshaft manually (socket wrench)

    kapag matigas ikutin, hindi kayang ikutin ng kamay, nagkaron na ng kalawang yung piston/piston rings.

    pero kapag kaya ikutin, pwede mo na start pero saglit lang dapat. tapos drain all fluids na. pati gas.

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    voltage is ok? spark plugs could be rusty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    voltage is ok? spark plugs could be rusty?

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    Have not checked it pa. Unahin ko siguro fuel line baka barado. Saan ba makabili ng spray yung nilalagay sa intake manifold if it starts? Ano tawag nun?


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    mas maigi siguro, tawag ka ng mekaniko. para ma check na lahat. kahit andar pa yan, di mo pwede i drive yan. stuck up na ang brakes nyan, delikado.

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    Even if it cranks, ok pa ba battery? 5 years of no charging yan.

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    Did you drain the old fuel? They do have an expiration date kahit nasa tangke lang.

    Drain the tank, put fresh fuel, replace the fuel filter and try it again.


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    Hindi ba delikado paandarin dahil wala nang langis sa engine parts? I assume all the engine oil has dripped down and the cylinders are all dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWest View Post
    Hindi ba delikado paandarin dahil wala nang langis sa engine parts? I assume all the engine oil has dripped down and the cylinders are all dry.
    lahat nman ganyan. oil pump is driven by chain/belt. a few days lng oil goes down but of course a liter or so remains in some galleries.

    as he mentioned, nag crank na.. oil already circulated..

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    Pag ganyan hindi ko na iistart. Drain all fluids na.

    Baka tumigas na yan namuo na.

    May nagkwento sa akin naaksidente sya dahil pinilit nya idrive kotse na almost one year walang gamit. Parang something sa brake system hindi na kumagat. Nagcrash sya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Pag ganyan hindi ko na iistart. Drain all fluids na.

    Baka tumigas na yan namuo na.

    May nagkwento sa akin naaksidente sya dahil pinilit nya idrive kotse na almost one year walang gamit. Parang something sa brake system hindi na kumagat. Nagcrash sya.
    you still have to move the vehicle kasi. try the vehicle first, find nearest shop then change the fluids..

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    pag mga bago-bago pa kotse ok lang kahit one year(pero ako i wont risk). Pero mga old cars tapos isang taon walang start. Baka namuo na langis nyan. What more pa kung 5years. Nakakatakot.

    Pero to be safe ipatow ko na lang papunta talyer.

    Just imagine one week lang nakatengga kotse tapos puro ulan nagisstuck na handbrake. What more in 1 year all the rains and init.

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    If your immediate goal is just to start the engine, I suggest the ff:

    1) Drain old gasoline. Replace with fresh/new gas. (Yung genset ko, isang buwan lang matengga, ayaw ng umandar ng tuluyan dahil sa "panis" na gasolina)

    2A) If engine is fuel injected, check fuel pump if it is priming fuel. Turn key to ON (not start) and try to hear some hissing sound under the rear seats. Kung may sound, most probably okay pa fuel pump.

    A more complicated and messy way is through the hose going to the fuel filter which should shoot gas if key is turned ON.

    2B) If engine has carburetor, you can still try the succeeding steps before deciding to overhaul the carb.

    3) Check if there is electrical current delivered to the spark plugs. (Google mo na lang easy way to do this).

    If you have kuryente sa #3, then good.

    4) Replace spark plugs. No sense in testing since luma na yung naka-kabit.

    5) If you want, put a tablespoon or two of motor oil through the spark plug hole.

    For fuel injected engines, some error codes will appear (check engine light or CEL) prior to starting the engine if there is some problems sa electronics and sensors. Kung wala naman, you can try starting the engine the normal way.

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    bat naman kasi matatakot.

    pag andar ba eh ibyahe agad ng long distance..syempre hindi diba.paandarin muna after na umadar saka i check lahat ng dapat icheck..ano delikado dun....

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    how to circulate the oil first? crank it without spark plugs? and w/ fuel lines disconnected? i think i saw this in a youtube video...

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    -Drain all the fluids and replace- brake, gas, PS, atf etc. especially gas, at lalong lalo na kung may ethanol yung gas (e10 like fuelsave) kasi hygroscopic yun it will take moisture out of air in the tank and absorb water.
    Check the brakes kung nag eengage pa.

    -check if it's throwing a code baka madumi ang sensors (even ebay/lazada obd readers can probably do this)

    -charge the battery, or replace nalang. it may have enough power para icrank lang a few times pero di magtutuloy kasi kulang na ang cranking amps (please correct me if I'm wrong mahina ako sa electronics hehe) this happened to my car when it wasn't started for a week.

    -clean the air filter, seriously, dami ko nakikita from relatives na nag aabroad iniiwan yung kotse tapos tinitirahan ng daga yung mga airbox.

    -clean and gap the sparkplugs kasi baka corroded na, or just replace them.

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    Damage already done by trying to start it ... Should've change fluids first and re-lubricated ...

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    *suysuy

    It's been 2 days since the thread was started...

    Nag-start na ba yung car mo?

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