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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    May nakasabay ako minsan sa carwash na naka-remote start/off yung oto nya.

    Naisip ko maganda din ito gamitin pag na-carjack ka. Just give them the car without any hesitation, tapos patayin mo nalang yung makina when you feel na safe ka na.

    Just wondering, may naka-ganito ba dito sa tsikot?

    Saan kaya maganda magpa-install? How much aabutin?

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    AFAIK, these features can also be found in higher end alarms, i.e. Clifford. Yong remote off, i think that's basically a turbo timer. Yong remote on naman, is useful for cold climate countries na kelangan nila painitin ang engine nila for a while. Di yata sya ganun ka-useful sa atin.

    As to prevent carjacking, since integrated 'to sa alarm at umaandar ang makina mukhang mahirap gawin...unless pwede ka mag-activate ng alarm/remote off function while your engine is running.

    That's the extent of my experience with this. There may be other who can give more enlightening ideas..

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    i have an Enforcer remote start/kill installed in the bimmer, medyo di ito pwede pang disable while the car is already running and moving. pang stationary on/off lang talaga.

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    i saw a docu /news feature about these sa US; this was about 5-7 years ago pa. basically ganun nga ang mangyayari, then after a complete stop, bi beep ung horn and magfa flash ung lights to attract attention(and hopefully send jackers into a panic).

    dunno lang nga kung available sya sa aftermarket, or sa pricier brands lang meron nito.

    hopefully they design something such that di pwedeng manu manong idisable ng jackers -- ung tipong pag binutingting mo e titirik ung kotse

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    BlueBimmer: Saan ka nagpakabit? How much?

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    DIY lang, may sarili kc kami technician..got the Enforcer remote starter for 4k+

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    merong alarm na feature yan sa banawe, im trying to remember the name hindi sya remote start but if na-press mu yung button sa remote..the engine will die and hindi mag start after mga 10 secs

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    AFAIK, this kind of device was banned somewhere... will research on this...

    imagine... a carnapper doing 100kph on a car... then the engine suddenly stops... you'll be endagering innocent motorists / pedestrians - heck even the carnapper... a car IMO isn't worth a single life. involuntary manslaughter perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    imagine... a carnapper doing 100kph on a car... then the engine suddenly stops... you'll be endagering innocent motorists / pedestrians - heck even the carnapper... a car IMO isn't worth a single life. involuntary manslaughter perhaps?
    I don't think mangyayari yun....kasi its only the engine which is going to stop and the brake would still surely function pa rin.

    So mag-freewheeling lang muna yung car until the momentum slows down or until they step on the brake...

    ....baka you were thinking na parang airplane yan na pag tumigil ang engine e malamang mag-crush....

    peace.

    BACK to topic....yung kapit bahay ko nagDIY din ng remote start and stop...pero hindi ko lang alam kung merun pa siyang stocks nito...he bought several units from US. Last time ang asking price nya was P5k for the unit and the install...his unit didn't have an alarm (hiwalay bale).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildthing
    I don't think mangyayari yun....kasi its only the engine which is going to stop and the brake would still surely function pa rin.
    That's exactly where the danger lies. When you cut off the engine, you also cut off the juice to the car's electrical functions, which includes power-assisted brakes. Without electricity, it takes at least twice the effort to stop a moving car.

    Even the Adventure's owners manual warns that extra care should be taken when using the brakes, in cases where the vehicle has to be towed due to engine failure.

    Also, power-assisted steering becomes very heavy when power is cut off, eventually locking itself as a security measure. You may want to think about that too, the next time you run your car at 100kph and you suddenly decide to shut the engine for a little free-wheeling.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; December 9th, 2005 at 10:24 PM.

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    Clifford has alarms with remote engine start/off features. The high end ones also has anti-carjack features. During a carjacking, the alarm waits a certain time before arming itself to disable the car. As soon as the carjackers slow down or stop during this time for traffic or a traffic light, the engine will now die, simulating a car problem. These one costed around Php12k around 9yrs ago.
    Last edited by Autobeat; February 20th, 2006 at 12:49 PM.

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    dunno how other remote start/kill devices work but the Enforcer's function is very simple, just to start and kill an engine while idle. the moment may pinasok na key and turned to ON position, it cannot kill the engine.

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    may napanood ako sa tv. parang mag susubscribe ka sa kanila, tapos may kasama ng alarm un. gumagamit sila ng gps, tapos isang text lang malalaman na kung nasan ung auto saka pwede din nila patayin ung engine kahit na umaandar. 20k ata ung pakabit tapos may monthly fee pa. hehehe.

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    Ang alam ko yung Mannix car alarm may remote start, di ko lang alam kung may remote off.

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    I also have a remote starter installed in my honda. It doesnt need a remote kill since my car has a factory installed immobilizer, and you also need to insert the key in the ignition after the car has been left on for 15 minutes once you start it remotely or else the car's immobilizer function will kick in and turn off the car automatically.
    Clifford, Viper, Autostart, Compustar and other brands have this remote starter function. I dont see a need for a remote starter in the Philippines, but no doubt its really cool to have one.
    As for myself, its more of a necessity especially during the winter season and when you have kids. You really need to warmup the cars interior before you can get a move on here. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falken
    Ang alam ko yung Mannix car alarm may remote start, di ko lang alam kung may remote off.
    KOREK ka bosing . MANNIX yung remote/alarm ko and it functions as stated by the thread starter.

    1 feature na nagustuhan ko is yung anti carjacking nya where you can turn the engine off from a distance. Since then, nakahiwalay na yung remote ko sa susi para in case na car jack I can disable the engine from afar. Yun nga lang hindi masyado malayo range nya siguro mga 100 meters.

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    unless the remote kill device uses GSM, GPS or other long distance transmission methods, i doubt the owner can kill the engine while the car is being driven far far away since car alarms have very limited distance usually max of a few hundred meters wala na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    unless the remote kill device uses GSM, GPS or other long distance transmission methods, i doubt the owner can kill the engine while the car is being driven far far away since car alarms have very limited distance usually max of a few hundred meters wala na.
    BlueBimmer nakita mo naba itong device nato, ito ang sagot sa carjacking problem natin sa pinas eto ang link o

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1


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    mazdamazda:imagine... a carnapper doing 100kph on a car... then the engine suddenly stops... you'll be endagering innocent motorists / pedestrians - heck even the carnapper... a car IMO isn't worth a single life. involuntary manslaughter perhaps?
    hmm...di kaya pwede gawan ng paraan na hihina ung speed gradually?

    re the range of the remote control/signal...paano kaya kung baligtad? e.g. the car won't start unless it's getting a signal from the transmitter(on the driver -- not attached to the ignition key of course). kung walang nakukuhang signal, or if the transmitter distance goes beyond, say 200 meters, di aandar or mag ga gradual shutdown ung makina. di ko lang nga alam ung minimum distance from jacker to driver ang safe

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    i had a remote start alarm once. pinatanggal ko. engot kasi driver. nag remote start siya, nakalimutan niya nakakambyo nung pinarada niya. ayun, binangga yung oto sa harapan!!!

    ngayon, remote off ko using a turbo timer.

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