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    #5841
    For the Zic X7 (gasoline), yung 5w30 viscosity ang fully synthetic. For the X9 (gasoline), fully synthetic yung 5w40 viscosity.

    Not sure about the diesel oils but I guess the 5w30 viscosity is fully synthetic also.

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    #5842
    If I recall correctly, Zic oils are not fully synthetic (composition wise) in the traditional sense of the word. SK Lubricants (maker of Zic) specializes in the production of high quality Group III base stocks, which when blended with advanced additives, provide performance similar to that of Group IV (real pure synthetics). Think of it as semi-synthetic oil with a premium additive package. The pricing reflects what it really is so I don't expect it to be like Shell Ultra or Mobil 1.

    "Synthetic", "synthetic technology" and "synthetic blend" are now mere marketing terms. Lubricant companies would like you to believe that these terms reflect oil performance rather than actual oil composition. The industry started using "synthetic" loosely ever since Mobil lost its lawsuit vs. Castrol in 1999 for the latter's use of Syntec in its products.

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    #5843
    Quote Originally Posted by Woof View Post
    If I recall correctly, Zic oils are not fully synthetic (composition wise) in the traditional sense of the word. SK Lubricants (maker of Zic) specializes in the production of high quality Group III base stocks, which when blended with advanced additives, provide performance similar to that of Group IV (real pure synthetics). Think of it as semi-synthetic oil with a premium additive package. The pricing reflects what it really is so I don't expect it to be like Shell Ultra or Mobil 1.

    "Synthetic", "synthetic technology" and "synthetic blend" are now mere marketing terms. Lubricant companies would like you to believe that these terms reflect oil performance rather than actual oil composition. The industry started using "synthetic" loosely ever since Mobil lost its lawsuit vs. Castrol in 1999 for the latter's use of Syntec in its products.

    it doesnt matter if they meet acea or api standards or specific vehicle standards then theyre ok.

    no vehicle standard required synthetic... ek ek.

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    #5844
    ^ Exactly sir. Even the cheapest mineral-based multigrade oils meet the latest ACEA and API standards. It's just a question of how much a car owner wants to spend for the "perceived" extra margin of safety and/or performance premium oils bring to the table.

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    #5845
    Quote Originally Posted by Woof View Post
    If I recall correctly, Zic oils are not fully synthetic (composition wise) in the traditional sense of the word. SK Lubricants (maker of Zic) specializes in the production of high quality Group III base stocks, which when blended with advanced additives, provide performance similar to that of Group IV (real pure synthetics). Think of it as semi-synthetic oil with a premium additive package. The pricing reflects what it really is so I don't expect it to be like Shell Ultra or Mobil 1.

    "Synthetic", "synthetic technology" and "synthetic blend" are now mere marketing terms. Lubricant companies would like you to believe that these terms reflect oil performance rather than actual oil composition. The industry started using "synthetic" loosely ever since Mobil lost its lawsuit vs. Castrol in 1999 for the latter's use of Syntec in its products.
    Instead of reposting it a third time, my post here, pretty much mentioned the same thing.

    At least based on the article, PAO, despite what a lot of people may think, is not a perfect oil. Group III has certain characteristics that outperforms PAO, not least of it is cost.

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    #5846
    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Instead of reposting it a third time, my post here, pretty much mentioned the same thing.

    At least based on the article, PAO, despite what a lot of people may think, is not a perfect oil. Group III has certain characteristics that outperforms PAO, not least of it is cost.
    Yes sir. I read that before and it was quite an informative read. Thank you.

    I just wanted to address earlier posts that were asking whether certain Zic variants were indeed fully synthetic by strict definition.

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    #5847
    Quote Originally Posted by butyok829 View Post
    Hi sirs, i just created my log in but lurker and fan for almost a year. anyone here can give a feedback about this oil? Berol motor oil 10w40 semi synthetic. API SN/CF4
    Planned change oil for my Vios 2014..41k odo. Sorry i cant post pics of it..dont know how.

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    From Germany yata yan? Mahal yan sigurado.

    Sa model ng car mo mas maganda siguro ang 5w40 para sa cold starts.

    I use semi synth oil ng shell, then every 5k kms or 6months ang interval ko para ayos.

    Yung sa bago kong kotse, mineral lang muna or casa oil until it reaches 10k kms tsaka na ko mag semi

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    #5848
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    I've only used yun pang gasoline nila can't remember kung anong klase. But I've also asked the same question before and I think nag Post ako ng Picture dito. Yun 10w-40 for gasoline hinde ko alam kung x7 yun


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    HX7 yun sir. And 5w40 na ang viscosity nung binebenta nila, then yung fully synth nila na helix ultra 0w40.

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    #5849
    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    Near BDO NRA but the other side towards the direction of Robinsons Galleria... Use the map on this FB page: Zic Motor Oil - Cebu City - Oil Lube & Filter Service | Facebook
    Thank you po. Zic oil price is very good. I'll check it out.

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    #5850
    Magandang oil ba 'to?
    Bardahl SAE 5W40 API SN/CF
    100% synthetic
    Ester blend
    Dexos2

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Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?