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    #1
    naka liners na yung block? napa-overhaul na ba yan before?

    you'll need a full overhaul kit, plus cylinder liners (4). cylinder head you can buy surplus sa mga surplusan.

    yan ang problema sa 4d56 eh... they don't last as long as the 4m40s and the isuzu engines. within 10 years of ownership magpapaoverhaul ka talaga. i've read somewhere na may fault yung design ng piston and piston rings ng engine na yan, kaya madaling mag-blowby.

    i would go for a quality engine rebuilder. mymitsu club recommends ray sarol, but i hve no contact number. maybe you can ask around mymitsu...

    isabay mo na yung calibration para bago isalpak lahat at istart tama na yung fueling system nya. too much diesel and the fuel will wash down the liner bores preventing the rings from seating properly. pag kumayod na yung rings you'll be right back where you started.

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    #2
    sir, have you noticed anything unusual with the engine's performance prior to this?

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    sir, have you noticed anything unusual with the engine's performance prior to this?

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    actually, ng march 5,2009 ay 11 years old na sa amin ang adventure namin. kami 1st hand.. before naputulan na kami timing belt about 3 times na yata pero wala pang overhaul talaga (1st time pa lang ngayon).. 324,000 plus kilometers na rin to. nagsimula lang ito ng magkaroon ng leak galing cylnder head gasket, na overheat kasi to dati kaya siguro natusta yung cyl gasket.. mabuti na rin at ganun kasi nakita yung kaloob looban ng makina..

    no choice kami, general overhaul talaga.

    as of now, binabaklas na alternator etc etc, at ibababa na rin tong makina ngayong gabi..

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    do not pay more than 40,000 . hinahanap ko yung thread ng overhaul ng 4d56 di ko makita, medyo na tackle na itong issue na ito before kasi... you can do a search if you like...

    3x kayo naputulan ng timing belt? wow. buti nde sumalpok yung mga valves sa piston? non-interference engine nga ba yung 4d56?

    maybe you can buy the 4d56 turbo intake manifold, turbo pistons, turbo, wastegate, and intercooler as a worthwhile upgrade hanggat nakababa yung makina?

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    Sus!!! 324,000 plus kms na pala eh sulit na yan. 3x naputulan ng belt eh are you following the recommended 80,000 to 100,000 belt replacement? It seems the only time you will change the belt is when it breaks. Voltscastillo is right, good thing you didn't break anything especially your valve lifters during these belt breakage.

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    #7
    Quote Originally Posted by afrasay View Post
    Sus!!! 324,000 plus kms na pala eh sulit na yan. 3x naputulan ng belt eh are you following the recommended 80,000 to 100,000 belt replacement? It seems the only time you will change the belt is when it breaks. Voltscastillo is right, good thing you didn't break anything especially your valve lifters during these belt breakage.

    It happened to me once. Naputulan ako timing belt not because na overuse cya. naputol yung balancer belt nya and bumara sa timing belt kaya nag snap buti na lng it happened at slow speed. what i noticed sa design ng later 4D56 the one fitted roller rocker arms is that these RRAs do snap easily. I think this was a safety factor made by the designers to save us from costly repairs of a valve interference pag naputulan ng belt. instead of causing a bent valve or mabutas ang piston, the RRA just breaks para bang fuse sa electrical, it bursts pag may short to avoid further damage. you just have to replace the damaged rocker arm and you are good to go again no need to dismantle the cylinder head. its better than the older type rocker arms nila.

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    #8
    To robin_micmac,

    Gumagamit ba kayo ng radiator coolant o tubig lang?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xt7 View Post
    actually, ng march 5,2009 ay 11 years old na sa amin ang adventure namin. kami 1st hand.. before naputulan na kami timing belt about 3 times na yata pero wala pang overhaul talaga (1st time pa lang ngayon).. 324,000 plus kilometers na rin to. nagsimula lang ito ng magkaroon ng leak galing cylnder head gasket, na overheat kasi to dati kaya siguro natusta yung cyl gasket.. mabuti na rin at ganun kasi nakita yung kaloob looban ng makina..

    no choice kami, general overhaul talaga.

    as of now, binabaklas na alternator etc etc, at ibababa na rin tong makina ngayong gabi..
    324000kms divide by 3

    is

    108000kms.

    Every 80,000kms dapat palit ng timing belt, kaya pala. Me kapitbahay
    ako nissan sentra eccs 370,000kms odo maganda pa, headlights, shocks
    and auxillary fans pa lang napalitan. Trouble free pa rin engine.

    Initially nagtataka ako na nag overhaul ka sa 324,000kms 0d0
    sa diesel engine dapat half life pa lang kasi ang Auntie ko yon Odo nya
    bumalik na sa 000000 ayos pa Suzuki Vitara 4at JX gasoline engine.
    Nakagarahe na lang kasi 1st car nya. Ayaw nya ibenta ayaw din nya ipamigay.
    Last edited by mark_t; March 22nd, 2009 at 02:27 AM.

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    #10
    Quote Originally Posted by voltscastillo View Post
    naka liners na yung block? napa-overhaul na ba yan before?

    you'll need a full overhaul kit, plus cylinder liners (4). cylinder head you can buy surplus sa mga surplusan.

    yan ang problema sa 4d56 eh... they don't last as long as the 4m40s and the isuzu engines. within 10 years of ownership magpapaoverhaul ka talaga. i've read somewhere na may fault yung design ng piston and piston rings ng engine na yan, kaya madaling mag-blowby.

    i would go for a quality engine rebuilder. mymitsu club recommends ray sarol, but i hve no contact number. maybe you can ask around mymitsu...

    isabay mo na yung calibration para bago isalpak lahat at istart tama na yung fueling system nya. too much diesel and the fuel will wash down the liner bores preventing the rings from seating properly. pag kumayod na yung rings you'll be right back where you started.
    Hindi naman problem 4d56, 16 years na L300 namin at ang problema
    lang yon kalawang kung saan saan nag uumpisa. 2 hilamos na ngayon
    sa ibang spot naman ang kalawang. 120,000kms odo 1st hand din at naalala
    ko php270.00 full tank ng diesel.
    Last edited by mark_t; March 22nd, 2009 at 01:53 AM.

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