Toyota Vios 2006 1.5G - Airbag Indicator Reset

[Dusty]

Problem: Airbag Indicator Light won't turn off
Background: Power Steering Thread or Ribbon (?) was cut off.
Actions made: Thread was repaired and installed. Horn/Busina is now functional. However, Airbag Indicator Light won't turn off even after several resets were made.

Good evening mga bros, yung mechanic/electrician told me na pumunta na sa Toyota para sa reset dahil ayaw mareset sa gamit nyang aparato yung Airbag Indicator, ginawa din nya na galawin yung pangreset below sa steering wheel (may mga wires and connections dun).. Nareset naman, kaso after a few seconds, bumabalik din yung ilaw ng Airbag indicator.. Ilang ulit nyang ginawa ito, kaso ayaw talaga bumalik sa normal.. Just would like to ask kung toyota na lang ba talaga ang chance ko para mareset yung sa Airbag Indicator Light since sila lang yung may aparato na pang reset or do I have any other options? Sorry for the disturbance.. TIA..

[t2erns]

kapag may problema pa (dtc) ang airbag ay lalabas pa uli ang ilaw kahit I-reset. pa scan muna

[miko101130]

Problem: Airbag Indicator Light won't turn off
Background: Power Steering Thread or Ribbon (?) was cut off.
Actions made: Thread was repaired and installed. Horn/Busina is now functional. However, Airbag Indicator Light won't turn off even after several resets were made.

Good evening mga bros, yung mechanic/electrician told me na pumunta na sa Toyota para sa reset dahil ayaw mareset sa gamit nyang aparato yung Airbag Indicator, ginawa din nya na galawin yung pangreset below sa steering wheel (may mga wires and connections dun).. Nareset naman, kaso after a few seconds, bumabalik din yung ilaw ng Airbag indicator.. Ilang ulit nyang ginawa ito, kaso ayaw talaga bumalik sa normal.. Just would like to ask kung toyota na lang ba talaga ang chance ko para mareset yung sa Airbag Indicator Light since sila lang yung may aparato na pang reset or do I have any other options? Sorry for the disturbance.. TIA..

how was the power steering/ribbon as cut-off?
anung repair sir ang ginawa?

if meh gamit yung mechanic(aparato) that did the repair, what was the DTC code being shown?
it would be wise sir to have it checked using OBD,, makikita doon kung anung error code at anu ang possible source ng problem sa airbag.

usually any related problems with regards sa SRS( supplemental restraint system) kasama dito ang airbag, fault code and warning will be constantly indicated sa dashboard or sa memory ng ecu ng airbag module...

if signal is cut/interrupted/shorted the airbag module might report this, sensitive ang airbag module sa overvoltage/over current usually kasi hindi 12volts at iba ang ameprage ng wires ng airbag system.... so kung meh nangyari sa wire feed o supply ng airbag module or harness, it could send error (DTC code)....

[Dusty]

Mga sirs.. Thanks so much sa reply.. Will do.. Btw sir.. CASA lang ba ang capable na gawin yun? May mga shops po ba na marerecommend dito sa qc? Yung ribbon na cut-off nung inayos yung power steering..

[miko101130]

yung mga high end shops meron din sila pang scan at reset...

pero siyempre model specific yung sa casa... pang unit mo talaga yun.

its possible na cause is the cutting of the wire.... i don't know exactly the wiring method for the vios but it might be that when the wire was cut the signal was interrupted from the airbag ecu to the airbag module thus leading to a stored error code.

[12vdc]

Double check the spiral cable(clock spring cable) if it was repaired correctly. Usually airbag has separate connector. Best if you could just replace the whole spiral cable assembly. Or you may try the simpliest reset method which is..

Remove negative cable of battery.
Press on the brakes or put the key to ignition for several seconds.
Re-connect the battery.

If airbag light re-appears, pull the codes at the nearest shop.

Safety reminder: Never work with airbags when the battery is connected and system capacitor not discharged. Never test using ohmeter because it sends voltage to the airbag module that may deploy it. Always remove the airbag module if you will be working with clockspring cable or anything in the steering wheel.

[vvti2.0]

Iba ang ECU ng sasakyan sa airbag module, parang instrument panel rin lang yan, iba ang mga yan.

Ang airbag may sarili rin na board yan, ang ginagawa dyan, nirereprogram yung eeprom/mcu, same rin sa pagreprogram kapag nag-aadjust ng mileage.

Ang procedure nyan ay ganito, either tatangalin yung eeprom/mcu or mag piggyback para madownload yung dump (andyan yung crash data), then iload yan sa crash data cleaner na software, or kung may dump database naman yung programmer, i-rereprogram lang ang eeprom nyan or ang mcu.

Yung mechanic na pinuntahan mo, wala sya masyado background about sa ganyan, more on lang sa pag gamit ng obd scanner nya at paghanap ng errors.

[vvti2.0]

Mga sirs.. Thanks so much sa reply.. Will do.. Btw sir.. CASA lang ba ang capable na gawin yun? May mga shops po ba na marerecommend dito sa qc? Yung ribbon na cut-off nung inayos yung power steering..

Ang gagawin dyan sayo ng casa papalitan yung buong airbag module at sigurado mahal ang presyo.

Kung dadalhin mo yan sa mga gumagawa ng reset ng odometer, wala pa 2.5k ang singil nyan siguro.

Yung DTC error nyan sa dash, indicator lang yan na hindi pa naclear yung crash dump sa airbag module not dahil hindi pa narepair yung ribbon wire mo kung naayos na nga.

[t2erns]

Ang gagawin dyan sayo ng casa papalitan yung buong airbag module at sigurado mahal ang presyo.

Kung dadalhin mo yan sa mga gumagawa ng reset ng odometer, wala pa 2.5k ang singil nyan siguro.

Yung DTC error nyan sa dash, indicator lang yan na hindi pa naclear yung crash dump sa airbag module not dahil hindi pa narepair yung ribbon wire mo kung naayos na nga.

hindi naman yata nabangga ang sasakyan, naputol lang malamang ang clockspring (yung sinasabi nyang ribbon).

[vvti2.0]

kahit hindi mabanga sasakyan, kapag lumabas ang error ng airbag, reprogramming na yan ng module.

[t2erns]

kahit hindi mabanga sasakyan, kapag lumabas ang error ng airbag, reprogramming na yan ng module.

well I don't think so, depende yan sa error like for example kung naputol clockspring magkakaroon ka ng dtc "driver squib circuit open" you don't have to reprogram the airbag ecu, you need to change lang ang clockspring.

[miko101130]

TS, pa OBD scan mo muna para mas mapalapit tayo sa kasagutan,,,

[vvti2.0]

well I don't think so, depende yan sa error like for example kung naputol clockspring magkakaroon ka ng dtc "driver squib circuit open" you don't have to reprogram the airbag ecu, you need to change lang ang clockspring.

Good evening mga bros, yung mechanic/electrician told me na pumunta na sa Toyota para sa reset dahil ayaw mareset sa gamit nyang aparato yung Airbag Indicator, ginawa din nya na galawin yung pangreset below sa steering wheel (may mga wires and connections dun).. Nareset naman, kaso after a few seconds, bumabalik din yung ilaw ng Airbag indicator.. Ilang ulit nyang ginawa ito, kaso ayaw talaga bumalik sa normal.. Just would like to ask kung toyota na lang ba talaga ang chance ko para mareset yung sa Airbag Indicator Light since sila lang yung may aparato na pang reset or do I have any other options? Sorry for the disturbance.. TIA..

Ang sabi ng may-ari pinareset nya na di ba at naayos na daw yung clock spring di ba? So bakit andyan pa error?

Marami Honda, ganyan ang sakit, clockspring lang, ang ending reprogram ng airbag ecu. Mura lang naman yan.

Kung andito lang yan sa probinsya kahit libre pa, isabay nya pa adjust ng odometer.

[t2erns]

kahit pa reset ng reset kung nandun pa din problema or hindi naayos ay lalabas pa din ang airbag mil (kaya nga dapat pa scan). reprogramming or more technically flash programming ay ginagawa lang kung covered ng TSB (technical service bulletin) yun ay ginagawa ng manufacturer kapag napag aralan nila na may problema sa software (bugs) ang isang particular module.

[miko101130]

puro hula tayo kasi walang info si TS kung anung error exactly...

ang sure diyan ay magkakaroon ka ng DTC kapag meh na alter sa line by either a change/temporary nawala/ naputol/ na-over voltage/short/ ang wire between the airbag module and the airbag ECU/SRS while there is still power stored sa unit.

if its a one time event, then saka natin i-assume na it will be just a software reset either done by casa or any shops na meh proper tools and experience,
(im assuming na palpak yung mekaniko ni TS)

[Dusty]

Mga sirs.. Sensya sa late reply.. Yung isang mekaniko(before maayos yung clockspring) and nakasira.. Don't know how.. And di rin naman aamin yun (will charge my mistake sa experience na lang).. Yung second na tumingin at umaayos.. Naging prob nya eh yung sa software since wala sya nung para sa Vios.. Btw, aside sa OBD.. Chineck din nya yung mga connections and other stuffs just to make sure na walang ibang sira.. Then nirefer nya ako sa CASA para siguradong maayos yung indicator light issue.. Just this morning.. Pumunta ako sa Toyota.. They said na pwede nila ireset/reprogram.. Kaso they only handle mechanical stuffs kapag saturday.. Kaya weekdays nila ako pinapapunta.. And since sinabi ko yung nangyari.. Madali/mabilis lang daw yung pagayos nun.. Kaso they have to charge me ng P2.7K para sa gagawin nila.. Up to know, I'm still looking for shops na kaya umayos.. Or CASA lang ba talaga ang capable magayos nun? Sorry Sirs di ko rin na take note yung error na lumalabas dun sa scanner.. Thanks ulit.. Again.. Sorry mga Sirs.. Tlagang noob ako sa ganitong stuffs..

[miko101130]

pag casa kasi sure ka na meh mababalikan ka...
sa labas usually ang charge for a simple OBD scan or reset would set you back 1.5k or more...

meh sarili kasi bawat manufacturer na scan tool specific to their brand, pang casa lang yun.
so i don't think unreasonable na din yung price kasi kung sa ibang shop eh baka pabalik balik ka pa at mapa-mahal ka pa in the long run....

[Dusty]

pag casa kasi sure ka na meh mababalikan ka...
sa labas usually ang charge for a simple OBD scan or reset would set you back 1.5k or more...

meh sarili kasi bawat manufacturer na scan tool specific to their brand, pang casa lang yun.
so i don't think unreasonable na din yung price kasi kung sa ibang shop eh baka pabalik balik ka pa at mapa-mahal ka pa in the long run....

Thanks so much Sir..

[Dusty]

due to problem sa scheduling sa CASA.. I decided to press my luck sa banawe.. I went sa J6 sa kaliraya street.. Yun, naayos naman, after nya itry thru scanner, bumalik pa rin, after nun, may ginalaw lang dun sa lock (small, color white) ng wire na nakakabit sa pindutan ng busina and nung clock spring.. naging ok na yung airbag indicator after..