Which is the most reliable China Vehicle Brand?

**roydok** · March 26th, 2013 11:52 PM

I have heared of so many complaints with most of the China-branded vehicles from complete knock-offs to poorest quality? Which among them would you recommend having the same quality as Japanese brands?

Thanks.

**Tunaflakes** · March 27th, 2013 12:21 AM

People seems happy with Haima sir.. Check out the thread here din..

**cpsolt** · March 27th, 2013 12:23 AM

pati sa foton na pickup. owners seem to be satisfied. you can read their thread.

i think nabasa ko rin dito na dong-feng is about to launch a hummer H1 knock off dito sa pinas. just change the grill then you got a mean looking H1 hehehe...

**niky** · March 27th, 2013 12:28 AM

Same quality as which Japanese brand?

The "which" is the important part. Not all brands are created equal.

But best chances, right now, are with the Foton Thunder, simply because the engine is made by Cummins and the transmission is made by Getrag. Cummins supplies engines for a number of companies, and is well-known for its large truck engines, as seen in Peterbilt, Kenworth, Mack and Volvo trucks. Getrag is a top-tier transmission supplier for companies like BMW, Ford, Mitsubishi and Volkswagen.

Can't guarantee the quality of the rest of the truck, but it brakes as well as the Japanese, it handles decently, the power steering doesn't overheat or lose boost like it does in some Japanese trucks when you saw it back and forth quickly, and the truck feels decent.

Recently at Clark, Chinese representatives for Foton took the truck out on the racetrack. Let me tell you, they weren't babying the thing. Imagine a tall truck squealing at full speed through the sweeper at Clark, flying out onto the main straight like a bat out of hell. That seemed dangerously reckless to me, but I was mightily impressed by the truck.

**roydok** · March 27th, 2013 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by niky

Same quality as which Japanese brand?

Sir niky,

Japanese brands like Honda, Subaru or Toyota...etc...

**slapz** · March 27th, 2013 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by niky

Same quality as which Japanese brand?

The "which" is the important part. Not all brands are created equal.

But best chances, right now, are with the Foton Thunder, simply because the engine is made by Cummins and the transmission is made by Getrag. Cummins supplies engines for a number of companies, and is well-known for its large truck engines, as seen in Peterbilt, Kenworth, Mack and Volvo trucks. Getrag is a top-tier transmission supplier for companies like BMW, Ford, Mitsubishi and Volkswagen.

Can't guarantee the quality of the rest of the truck, but it brakes as well as the Japanese, it handles decently, the power steering doesn't overheat or lose boost like it does in some Japanese trucks when you saw it back and forth quickly, and the truck feels decent.

Recently at Clark, Chinese representatives for Foton took the truck out on the racetrack. Let me tell you, they weren't babying the thing. Imagine a tall truck squealing at full speed through the sweeper at Clark, flying out onto the main straight like a bat out of hell. That seemed dangerously reckless to me, but I was mightily impressed by the truck.

It looks good also..

**niky** · March 27th, 2013 01:57 AM

Well.. they're not all the same. Honda has had trim and rust issues in the past, as well as automatic transmission issues with their five speeds before... and Toyota's gasoline engines are very reliable, while their new diesels are rather sensitive to fuel quality. I'd opine that both manufacturers hit their highest notes in the early and mid-90's but are no longer too far removed from the rest of the pack. Subarus, on the other hand, have their own quirks and problems.

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And also note there are also Chinese-made Hondas and Toyotas.

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But kidding aside, I don't see any local Chinese cars that are built to the same standards as mainstream Japanese cars, though they're getting close. The durability of new models is something we'll only find out over the next few years. I'd peg the best bets right now as being Foton and Haima.

Geely, Great Wall and Chery are maybe a step behind, but the last Geely I drove and the newer Great Walls are a lot better than offerings from the brands a few years ago... so I'd say give it five years before that group is advanced enough to start making comparisons.

**basti08** · March 27th, 2013 01:58 AM

I'm kinda curious with the Dongfeng Oting.

A chinese native supplier said that Haima is the only Chinese brand that seems good. Others he said: "No good" ;)

**niky** · March 27th, 2013 02:07 AM

That was likely true in the past, because Haima produces almost exact mechanical replicas of their licensed Mazda vehicles (Licensed, ha... hindi pirated) rebodied with different sheetmetal. They won a few "best" awards with their versions of Mazda cars.

Nowadays, other brands are starting to leapfrog them.

**basti08** · March 27th, 2013 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by niky

That was likely true in the past, because Haima produces almost exact mechanical replicas of their licensed Mazda vehicles (Licensed, ha... hindi pirated) rebodied with different sheetmetal. They won a few "best" awards with their versions of Mazda cars.

Nowadays, other brands are starting to leapfrog them.

I most like the Haima Family and Freema. Once, may nakasabay ako Haima Family, binaba ko bintana ko dahil kilala ko ang tunog ng makina ng Lynx/Familia. It sounded exactly same! Hurray!!! Ayos!