Help... Need separate switch for foglamps. HOWTO lang po...

[ckj289]

[size=5]Mga bossing pasensya na po first post ko lang... Tanong ko lang po kasi ung car ko walang separate na switch for the foglamps... nagana lang ang foglamps pag-naka highbeam ako. Gusto ko po sana gumawa nang paraan para may control ako kung kelan ko gusto buksan ang foglamps ko. Possible po ba ito...

Salamat po marami.
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[1D4LV]

laki ng fonts mo bro...
actually pwede yan. di ko nga lang alam nitty gritty. my fog lights operate on a separate switch, but tapped to the parking lights, meaning, hindi sya bubukas unless nakabukas yung park lights.

[nicolodeon]

fairly easy to do kung marunong ka sa D-I-Y kase you would need to tap into your fuse harness. all you need is the right gauge of wire, a couple of Bosch relays and a switch. HG's park-light recommendation is righ on. Kung ita-tap mo sa parking lights, you still need to connect the fog lamps to a spare fuse slot then connect to a relay before you connect it to the park-light. kung gusot mo diretso sa wiring ng park light, kailangan eh taasan mo rating ng ikakabit mo na fuse pero hindi basta basta magkakabit ng higher rated na fuse kase may computation yan based on load. at, kailangna mo pa rin ng relay.

[ckj289]

Medyo mahirap po pala iyon... akala ko noon parang ung sinabi lang ni hg pero wala nang mga relays and harness. Pag nakasabay kasi sa parklights baka i-book ako nang mga police. Kaya gusto ko po sana may separate switch kung kelangan ko lang ko gamit.

Salamat po sa mga reply. Sorry sa font...

p.s. so, sir nico ibig sabihin po ba pag nag-tap ako dun sa may fuse harness ko eh hindi ko kelangan mag-cut nang wires? un po kasi una sana na balak ko gawin ung i-cut tapos un nga isama sya sa parkers ko. pero dami pa po pala kelangan hindi ganun kasimple... meron po ba DIY nito sa net?

Salamat po talaga...

[nicolodeon]

..ibig sabihin po ba pag nag-tap ako dun sa may fuse harness ko eh hindi ko kelangan mag-cut nang wires? un po kasi una sana na balak ko gawin ung i-cut tapos un nga isama sya sa parkers ko. pero dami pa po pala kelangan hindi ganun kasimple... meron po ba DIY nito sa net?

Salamat po talaga...

well, hindi ka na mag-cu-cut ng wires na nakakabit na sa wiring harness mo. yung fusebox kasi sa tsikot eh usually may nga 2-3 slots na bakante yun - and most of the time may linya na ng current yun. so, all you have to do is to connect a new set of wires from an empty fuse space, then going to a relay tapos ang end eh sa fogs mo.

kung gusto mong isama sa parkers mo, pwede rin. kaya lang, like what i said, you have to compute for the additional electrical load na idudulot ng pagta-tap mo ng fogs dun sa parkers me - kase kung malakas ang magiging higop ng current eh baka masunugan ka ng wires or fuse (may kilala ako na na nasunugan ng wires dahil sa ganitong gawa). kailangan mo din malaman yun load para malaman mo kung ano ang tamang ampere rating na fuse na gagamit mo. hindi kasi basta lang magdo-doble ka ng fuse amperage e.g. 10amps yung nakakabit sa parkers mo, gagawin mo lang 20amps.

yep, may makikita ka nyan sa 'net - hit google.

good luck.

[nicolodeon]

to add, kung gusto mo yung separate na switch eh talagang kailangan mo na mag-layout ng bagong linya from your fogs to an empty slot sa fusebox mo. tapos, kung wala kang empty slot na mapaglalagyan sa dash, either ikakabit mo sa ilalim ng dash mo yung switch or bubutas ka sa dash. pwede ka rin gumamit ng foot-switch kung ayaw mong mag-butas sa dash mo. wag din limot ang relays - mga 2 per fog so apat ang gagamit mo. well, pwede isa kaya mas safe ang dalawa.

[BlueBimmer]

meron mga foglamp wiring kit binebenta, complete wirings, relays n switch. maganda pa ung switch.

[ckj289]

Sorry po talaga ang kulet ko ha...

Eto po ang itsura nang fuse & relay box ko pati na rin po kung ano ano ang mga andyan... I would love to DIY pero how would I start... Sa itsura po nito isa lang ang bakante kong fuse slot pero mukhang marami pa for the relays tama po ba? engot na tuloy ang feeling ko sa inyo...

Cheers mga bro...

[nicolodeon]

sa relays, may dalawa ka pa. kung wala ng bakante sa fuse box, pwede kang mag-DIY ng separate para sa fogs mo.

[seonadancing]

Pre, kung ako sayo pagawa mo na lang sa shop para sigurado.

[1D4LV]

Pre, kung ako sayo pagawa mo na lang sa shop para sigurado.

right on. di ka siguro gagastos ng 500 petot dyan for the labor, if ang assumption is may foglites ka na.

[BoEinG_747]

right on. di ka siguro gagastos ng 500 petot dyan for the labor, if ang assumption is may foglites ka na.

ooppsss teka teka ,.mukhang wala sa Beloved Philippines si ckj289baka iba ang rate ng price magpa install ng foglights,pero kahit mura or mahal ..ipagawa mo na lang sa technician ..mahirap na ..mas mura pa din mag pagawa pag di cgurado kaysa masira mo ang electrical wiring ng sasakyan mo or worse baka masunog pa ang ride mo

[1D4LV]

ooppsss teka teka ,.mukhang wala sa Beloved Philippines si ckj289baka iba ang rate ng price magpa install ng foglights,pero kahit mura or mahal ..ipagawa mo na lang sa technician ..mahirap na ..mas mura pa din mag pagawa pag di cgurado kaysa masira mo ang electrical wiring ng sasakyan mo or worse baka masunog pa ang ride mo

ah ok. ala pala sya dito. kung nasa states ka talagang ang taas ng labor dyan and you don't have any choice except to DIY. pero as Boeing said, mas mahirap if you fu#* up your electricals.

[ckj289]

Salamat po nang marami. Medyo kasi nag-kukuripot na naman ang bulsa ko kaya gusto ko sana DIY kasi medyo mahal labor dito sa australia eh. pero sige magtatanong-tanong na lang ako sa mga auto-electrical dito. baka sakali masira ko nga pag-nag-experiment na naman ako. tutal connections lang naman at may existing na akong foglamps eh....

Cheers po sa inyo lahat....

[StraightSix]

Magastos nga labor diyan sa Australia, hehehe.

ckj289, kung tingin mo kaya mo, here's the wiring diagram ...



If you can keep the length of wire for the fog lamps (the thicker colored wires, including the fog lamp ground wires) at 4 feet or less, you can use an AWG#14 copper wire. That gauge of wire should handle a pair of fog lamps up to a total of 200watts. The trick is to find a suitable mount for the relay between the battery and the fog lamps, keeping the length as short as possible. For fog lamps with lower wattages, a fuse at 12A to 15A should be OK.

The switch wires (thinner colored wires) carries such a low load that even an AWG#22 wire should be OK for it. If you want the fog lamps to come ON only when your park lights are ON, tap the switch wire to your parking light wire instead of the ignition line. Otherwise, follow the diagram if you want to use the fog lamps independent of the park lights.

Take note that for both wire gauges, there's nothing wrong in using thicker wires ... mas mahirap lang ikabit at mas magastos

Items you need to buy will be:
- AWG#14 insulated copper wire, stranded (for automotive use), 2m long.
- AWG#22 insulated copper wire, stranded. the length depends on where and how you will wire your switch.
- In-line fuse holder and 20Amperes fuse.
- Bosch SPST 30A automotive relay.
- SPST toggle switch (don't worry about any ampere rating for this, just choose what you like)
- 12volt bulb and holder.
- Spade connectors (if needed) for the relay pins and fog lamps.

I've included the relay and the fuse holder in the list so you don't have to mess around with your car's fuse/relay box. Admittedly, nakakalito talaga 'yon.

You can have a wider choice of color and appearance with LED indicator lights, but most of these need a resistor in order to work at 12volts. The value of the resistor depends on the LED so have a look here.

Fog lamps need a large current, hence, the need for thick wires. The idea of using a relay in the wiring is to remove the need to run a thick wire from the lamps to your dashboard, and also to minimize the voltage drop/loss that results in dimmer lights ... the same principle and technique when you want to put additional horns.

Have a read, and take your time. If you don't think you're confident enough, just follow the others' advice and let a professional do it.

HTH

[seonadancing]

Nice diagram. I don't understand it at all. hehehe.

[StraightSix]

Nice diagram. I don't understand it at all. hehehe.

Buti na lang at hindi ikaw ang magkakabit hehe.

nakakita na ako dati ganito din ang pagka drawing pero electrical wiring naman ng Horn

Yes, you can use the same wiring for horns ... just replace the lamps with it and exclude the indicator.

The tap point for the switch determines when you can use the lamps/horns.

- Ignition line: You can use the lamps/horns only when the key is switched to IGN.
- Battery: You can use the lamps/horns anytime, even without the car key.
- Park light line: You can use the lamps only when the park lights are on. Obviously, don't tap the horn switch to the park lights

[nicolodeon]

nice diagram. very simple to follow.

[BoEinG_747]

ayos iyon diagram .
nakakita na ako dati ganito din ang pagka drawing pero electrical wiring naman ng Horn
thanks straightsix

ckj289 : welcome nga pala sa Tsikot

[kools]

yes!!! pwede ko na buhayin fog lights ko hehehe nginatngat kasi ng aso mga wirings ko... salamat po!!!