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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    May tanong po ako. Bumili po ako sa dealer ng 2nd hand car.

    Ang binigay sakin ng dealer eh documents na hinatak ng bangko yung kotse. Then deed of sale from bank to second owner (not the owner of the dealer's name)

    Nung binili ko sya ang bingay sakin eh deed of sale lang ng second owner papunta sakin.
    Question: Legal ba ito? hindi ba dapat nung binili nila yung sasakyan from the second owner eh dapat may deed of sale din sila? at yung may ari ng dealer ang dapat na nagdeed of sale papunta sakin?

    Kasi po nung tinest drive namin maayos yun sasakyan kaso after two weeks lumabas mga sakit. MAY TRANSMISSION ISSUE wala pang 1kms tinakbo ko.. almost 3 weeks lang nagstay sakin. May issue kasi ang AT transmission ng ford fiesta 2013 nabasa ko pabalik balik. ayoko ng mastress at gusto ko ibalik sa kanya kahit hindi na full yung ibalik na payment sakin... 370k ko nabili kahit 300k na lang pumapayag nako.. take note ako pa nagparegister neto uptu 2008. hindi ko pa nalipat sa pangalan ko.

    Patulong naman po please.... please po.. ano po kaya laban ko dito?

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    Ganyan talaga ang mga car dealers. Open deed of sale para mabawasan ng isang car ownership. Matransfer mo yan.
    As for returning the car, medyo malabo.

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    Ibenta mo sa kanila ng 300k.

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    Agree that open deed of sale ginagawa ng dealers. Marami rin dishonest that would sell defective cars. Madalas babawasan pa ang odometer para lang masabi low mileage.
    Suggestion ko is puntahan at kausapin mo ng mabuti ang dealer. Good luck!


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    Naguusap naman kami sir. Ang gusto nya kasi macheck kung may problema talaga sa tcm. Lumabas naman sa ford sa computer na kaya nagcheck engine eh dahil nga sa transmission. Willing na nga na bawasan ako ng 70k sa origibal 370k na binayad ko masoli ko lang. Ang dami ng stress dinulot sakin neto.

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    Ano ba exactly ang gusto nya at ayaw nya tanggapin na ibalik mo ng 300k sa kanya? Tubo na siya ng 70k, there is info missing here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    Naguusap naman kami sir. Ang gusto nya kasi macheck kung may problema talaga sa tcm. Lumabas naman sa ford sa computer na kaya nagcheck engine eh dahil nga sa transmission. Willing na nga na bawasan ako ng 70k sa origibal 370k na binayad ko masoli ko lang. Ang dami ng stress dinulot sakin neto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    May tanong po ako. Bumili po ako sa dealer ng 2nd hand car.

    Ang binigay sakin ng dealer eh documents na hinatak ng bangko yung kotse. Then deed of sale from bank to second owner (not the owner of the dealer's name)

    Nung binili ko sya ang bingay sakin eh deed of sale lang ng second owner papunta sakin.
    Question: Legal ba ito? hindi ba dapat nung binili nila yung sasakyan from the second owner eh dapat may deed of sale din sila? at yung may ari ng dealer ang dapat na nagdeed of sale papunta sakin?

    Kasi po nung tinest drive namin maayos yun sasakyan kaso after two weeks lumabas mga sakit. MAY TRANSMISSION ISSUE wala pang 1kms tinakbo ko.. almost 3 weeks lang nagstay sakin. May issue kasi ang AT transmission ng ford fiesta 2013 nabasa ko pabalik balik. ayoko ng mastress at gusto ko ibalik sa kanya kahit hindi na full yung ibalik na payment sakin... 370k ko nabili kahit 300k na lang pumapayag nako.. take note ako pa nagparegister neto uptu 2008. hindi ko pa nalipat sa pangalan ko.

    Patulong naman po please.... please po.. ano po kaya laban ko dito?
    #1. Chill/relax lang sir.

    #2. Walang problema sa papers yan, normal lang yan. Ang mahalaga, maitransfer sa yo yung name which is kaya naman since may open deed naman...

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    ^^Basically, yan ang risk on buying 2nd hand items, including cars. Nung binili ni dealer sa bangko yan, minor check up lang at clean up ginawa. Most probably, like you, di rin alam ni dealer ang true condition ng repossesed car. Sabi mo pa nga, naka 1000kms ka pa bago lumabas sira? Ang habol lang nila is umandar yan nung kinuha nila at ipasa/benta nila. Ung iba sinasabi reset odo pero given na yun, part ng risk yun, saka pangit din naman magbintang sa kapwa. Hehe.. Laban mo dito next time when buying is research first sa google or atleast dala ka ng mekaniko na expert sa oto na kukunin mo.

    Ngaun nandyan na yan, sana pumayag ung dealer na isoli mo. If di pumayag, benta mo na lang sa iba. Or ipagawa mo na lang. A brand new transmission sa casa is 400k. Outside repair siguro sa mga a/t specialist is around 100+k. Though dapat may maganda syang scantool pera ma reset at macalibrate ung newly built tranny. Again, research... Im just saying what I recall on this particular model. Some can get away with the tranny malfunction just by doing some PCM reset all adaptation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janemar View Post
    #1. Chill/relax lang sir.

    #2. Walang problema sa papers yan, normal lang yan. Ang mahalaga, maitransfer sa yo yung name which is kaya naman since may open deed naman...

    #3. Caveat emptor - Wikipedia
    ^^Basically, yan ang risk on buying 2nd hand items, including cars. Nung binili ni dealer sa bangko yan, minor check up lang at clean up ginawa. Most probably, like you, di rin alam ni dealer ang true condition ng repossesed car. Sabi mo pa nga, naka 1000kms ka pa bago lumabas sira? Ang habol lang nila is umandar yan nung kinuha nila at ipasa/benta nila. Ung iba sinasabi reset odo pero given na yun, part ng risk yun, saka pangit din naman magbintang sa kapwa. Hehe.. Laban mo dito next time when buying is research first sa google or atleast dala ka ng mekaniko na expert sa oto na kukunin mo.

    Ngaun nandyan na yan, sana pumayag ung dealer na isoli mo. If di pumayag, benta mo na lang sa iba. Or ipagawa mo na lang. A brand new transmission sa casa is 400k. Outside repair siguro sa mga a/t specialist is around 100+k. Though dapat may maganda syang scantool pera ma reset at macalibrate ung newly built tranny. Again, research... Im just saying what I recall on this particular model. Some can get away with the tranny malfunction just by doing some PCM reset all adaptation.
    -grabe pla mahal ng tranny pag papalitan. Medyo na aware tuloy aq since may plan aq kumuha sa financing ng central auto sa munoz.

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    Ang sabi nya sir papacheck namin sa ford. Pinacheck naman namin sir may lumabas na may problem nga tcm. Bukas ang final verdict kasi sabi po sa ford eh yung final diagnosis king tcm nga may tama ay lalabas.. yung initial diagnosis pa lang sir yung lumabas kanina.

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    At yun point ko sir. Wala pang 1k tinakbo sakin nun. Nagcheck engine within two weeks. Tapos nagpowertrain failure din. Pabalik balik problema. Sabi ko kahit 300k na lang ibalik nya sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    At yun point ko sir. Wala pang 1k tinakbo sakin nun. Nagcheck engine within two weeks. Tapos nagpowertrain failure din. Pabalik balik problema. Sabi ko kahit 300k na lang ibalik nya sir.

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    Eto baka makatulong. Di ko lang alam kung payag casa na gawin yan. Usually, palit pyesa na agad gusto sa casa.

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    If at all you're looking forward to buying used cars, there are plenty of factors that you would need to look into before you actually go ahead and get yourself second hand cars. Unlike new cars, used cars would probably have some kind of problems and that's probably the reason as to why the previous owner wants to get rid of it. Here is the details on how to choose best Secondhand Car Buying Guide: Tips To Find The Best Used Cars In The Philippines - eCompareMo - eCompareMo

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    ^Sir actually yan ang alam kong problema ng fiesta kaya lang wala po akong time magpabalibalik sa kanila. At minsan may addtional na gastos pa sila. Tcm may warranty sa kanila pero po yung abala parati ang nde ko maatim. Lam ko gagastos ako sa 2nd hand pero sir kakaibang issue naman netong fiesta. Parang binili ko sa kanya 51k kms pa lang sinoli ko din ng 51k kms payag na nga ako 300k na lang eh.. ako pa nagparehistro nagpagawa ng busted bulb kachange oil pa lang ng fully synthetic at nafull tank konpa yun..

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    TS, alam mo naman pala may problema yung fiesta sa TCM bakit binili mo pa?

    Wala ka ng habol dyan, as is where is yan.

    Benta mo na lang sa OLX, state mo na lang na TCM issue pero it's covered sa warranty ng Ford (well if di pa void yung warranty).

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    ^sir nalaman ko lang nun nagcheck engine na sya. Tsaka ko lang nalaman yung issue nya.

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    The most expensive used car is a cheap one ... when buying used cars, better to stick with the reliable brands (Toyota, Honda) ... also best to extensive research on the models you are looking at ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    The most expensive used car is a cheap one ... when buying used cars, better to stick with the reliable brands (Toyota, Honda) ... also best to extensive research on the models you are looking at ...
    Research pa rin #1 tool mo. Dami na info sa net. Kahit kilalang brand like honda may issue sa civic/jazz flywheel and a/t tranny. Toyota and the early clogging d4ds. Isuzu on their 4jx1. Old Ford ranger and everest wala namang issue. Kahit new rangers ala ka marining na major issues.

    Mukhang pasok naman pala sa warranty ni ford yang oto so tyagain mo na lang or benta palugi. Pero dont blame it to dealer since gaya mo, di rin nila alam na sira yan nung nakuha nila unit sa bangko.

    Say, kung alam man nila. As buyer, dapat natest drive mo mabuti unit at nag agree ka that day of purchase na okay sa yo yung oto before paying. Di ka naman nila pinilit na bilin oto.

    Naibyahe nyo pa nga ng 1k kms. Malay natin pag uwi nyo sa bahay at park may kinagat ng daga sa wiring ng oto kaya nag fault? Point is, labas na si dealer dun di ba? Unless nga may usapan kayo ni dealer na may xx warranty. Or money back guarantee. Ung ibang dealer kasi may ganun for used cars, like 1month warranty for electricals and engine, etc...

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    dapat kasi nagreresearch muna bago bumili lalo na 2nd hand na kotse. may internet na at may google pa.

    anyway, wala bang warranty clause yung deed of sale mo sa 2nd hand dealer? usually meron yan 3 months warranry.

    also sabi nga ni vinj check mo ang service record at baka nagkaroon na ng warranty claim before. in case kasi na nag-claim na ng warranty yung previous owner with the same problem e baka ma-obligado pa din ang ford na i-repair ang car. makukuha mo ang service record sa ford casa, nasa computer nila yun.

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    #19
    pag bumili ka ng sasakyan mapa brand new man or second hand

    dapat may nilalaan ka din oras para sa kanya.hindi dahilan ung wala kang time para maipaayos..kahit na bago payang kalalabas sa casa sasaan bat masisira din yan at magkakaroon ng problema.ano gagawin..edi ipagawa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    ^sir nalaman ko lang nun nagcheck engine na sya. Tsaka ko lang nalaman yung issue nya.

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    Malabo na tanggapin pabalik nung seller yan now na alam nilang babalik sa kanila na may issue. Unless meron kayong explicit agreement related to this situation, wala ka na mahahabol sa kanila but their mercy.

    Anyway, you mentioned may warranty pa kaso lang you don't have the time? That's your best option na so make time, have it repaired via warranty then sell it ASAP while it's still good, better than getting nothing back.

    At the end of the day, have a beer and bill it to experience.


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