have you tried mixing KEROSENE with your diesel fuel?

[Olive Drab]

i met some guys in such practice up to 50:50 ratio.
i dont want to try it myself.

[afrasay]

nope. and i wouldn't.

[kiper]

ako rin!! diesel ang makina tapos hahaluan mo ng pang-luto..!!

sabi din ng iba ok din un unleaded..

di na noh..!! diesel nga makina ko eh..!*!

[GlennSter]

this has been an issue dati pa sa old kotse board...and other boards....

it aint good at all.....

[pajerokid]

Kerosene with diesel is good for easing startups in winter.... which we dont have here :D

[boybi]

mas mura ba kerosene kesa diesel?

[Olive Drab]

mas mura ba kerosene kesa diesel?

kerosene is cheaper.
weird talaga yung practice nila but they are doing it for years.
nalaman ko ito sa tanay, rizal. mas powerful daw kasi.
the vehicles they use?
reo 6x6 for hauling logs and the 6-cylinder passenger jeeps, 6FB1 ata engine. gray nga ang usok nila instead of black.

[ARB]

some put ATF oil with every full tank of diesel. one quart of ATF for every full tank, it makes good power said some but never tried it.

[yebo8]

kerosene burns faster and cleaner than diesel. jeepney drivers do that when they get caught by the denr anti smoke belching drives. they mix kerosene with the diesel so that the engine will pass the test at the lto, less carbon monoxide and soot kasi. also since it burns faster than diesel it also gives higher power output.

you can actually even mix kerosene with gasoline. in fact your gasoline engine can run on pure kerosene. start it up using gasoline then when it is already warmed up you can switch to pure kerosene (this means you have 2 fuel tanks, 1 for gasoline and 1 for kerosene). no guarantees it won't knock, though. here on the rig our rescue boat has 2 fuel tanks, one gasoline and 1 kerosene. parehas lang lakas ng acceleration nya pag naka-100% kerosene na e.

aviation turbo is simply clean kerosene (low sulfur). as a matter of fact, the 2nd stage of the Saturn V rockets that took the Apollo missions to the moon used kerosene for fuel. that is how powerful kerosene is. they use it on 747 passenger planes, f15 fighter jets and even moon rockets, so why not your diesel engines! it is a lot cleaner than diesel mind you.

the only draw back using pure kerosene on your diesel engine is you lose lubrication on your injection pumps (diesel is thicker than kerosene). but if it is mixed with diesel then ok pa yan.


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[kiper]

so sino na sa inyo ang gagamit ng halo2?

[kupaloids]

MAUSOK! Yung gas station na napagasolinahan ko dati may halo Diesel nila. Susmaryosep parang PUSIT yung L3 ko nung umandar.

[boybi]

ok naman pala kerosene e. lalo na sa mga mahihilig mag offroad. me pang fuel ka na sa car mo, pe pang luto ka pa!

[Boy2]

we tried it sa trooper namin. one liter every full tank. sabi nung driver nawala daw yung usok, pero para sakin wala din pinagka-iba. kaya we stopped it na lang, kasi baka ma-void warranty.

[roydok]

I have not tried it yet. :D

[pajerokid]

Adding kerosene to diesel is how some gas stations cheat you. if it were a good thing then i suppose we'd all have added gaas to diesel since day 1. but as someone pointed out, its actually bad coz youd degrade your cetane rating (lubricity) :D I hope someone brings back the site on this :D




.....my $0.02.

[gm]

from what i heard kerosene is also diesel --- only more refined.

[boybi]

from what i heard kerosene is also diesel --- only more refined.

if this is true, then why is kerosene cheaper than diesel. further refining will entail additional cost.

[kiper]

eh kasi panluto na lang un eh..

2 cents..?:?

[yebo8]

no, kerosene is not "diesel fuel", but it is a fuel for a Diesel engine. magulo ba? let me explain.

Note: for the purpose of this explanation, the word "diesel" is used to denote the fuel. when referring to the engine, it is "Diesel", with a capital "D" because it is a proper noun. Diesel is the name of the inventor of the compression-ignition engine commonly called the Diesel engine. thus the right way to spell it is with a capital "D". when referring to the fuel, it is spelled with a small letter "d".

magkaiba po ang average length ng H-C chain ng diesel at kerosene, longer ang diesel or in other words heavier ang diesel. also kerosene evaporates at room temperature, diesel does not. diesel also has a higher viscosity.

pero pwede mo gamitin yun kerosene to fuel a Diesel engine. remember that the "Diesel" in the term "Diesel engine" refers to the man who invented it, not to the fuel (as against "gasoline" in "gasoline engine", where it refers to the fuel). the term diesel fuel is actually "fuel for diesel", get it?

Diesel engine generally refers to engines with compression ignition as the mode of igniting the air/fuel mixture in the cylinders. Any fuel that will work with it, technically speaking, can be called a diesel fuel. like coconut oil, kerosene, bunker, even light crude oil. but the term "diesel fuel" generally refers to a certain derivative of crude oil with a certain specific weight and viscosity range. so since kerosene has a different specific weight and viscosity range, then it is not called diesel. but it is a Diesel engine fuel.

lalo ba gumulo, ehehehehe! :mrgreen:

as i said earlier, kerosene is actually used to fuel Diesel engines. the only draw back is since its viscosity is lower then you lose lubrication in your injection pumps. but it does burn cleaner than "diesel".

kerosene is cheaper because it is not considered an automotive fuel, thus the tax is less. remember that the tax levied on petroleum products was decided by congress just some years back. the tax on kerosene was one of the lowest because it is considered a "poor man's fuel", used in cooking and lighting in the barrios where there are no electricity and LPG is still unheard of.

with regards to the level of refining, there is no difference. the diesel just condenses at the lower trough of the distillating column, then comes kerosene, then gasoline. the lower the boiling point the higher it condenses in the distillating column in the oil refinery.

[yebo8]

tama sabi ni kiper, panluto lang yun. di gamit sa kotse kaya mababa ang tax.

but aviation turbo, which is also kerosene is costlier. dyan po pumasok yun sabi ni boybi na "further refining will entail additional cost". yun kasi aviation turbo is refined kerosene. the difference is aviation turbo is kerosene that is further distilled, the range of viscosity and specific weight more exacting than just refining ordinary kerosene. think of any petloleum product as a mixture with a set RANGE of properties. aviation turbo is at the lower range of specific weight and viscosity of kerosene.

also, aviation turbo is more pure, meaning wala siyang dumi like sulfur and minerals that can cause fuel filters to clog up and cause the airplane using it to crash. and it is also a fuel used in transportation kaya mataas ang tax.