Caltex/Chevron with Techron now Euro4

[StockEngine]

I wonder if the air will be relatively cleaner once all players sell euro4.

Caltex with Techron Now Euro 4 in Metro Manila, Major Cities | ************ - Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Car Features, Car Buyer's Guide and Car Prices.

[CVT]

I wonder if the air will be relatively cleaner once all players sell euro4.

Caltex with Techron Now Euro 4 in Metro Manila, Major Cities | ************ - Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Car Features, Car Buyer's Guide and Car Prices.

Way to go Caltex!

Ang tagal naman ng Shell...

[Siya pa ang nahuli!]...


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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Way to go Caltex!

Ang tagal naman ng Shell...

[Siya pa ang nahuli!]...

ang tagal nga. pati nga ipo nila ang tagal ipatupad

good news euro 4 na din pala ang caltex

question lang, between the euro 4 diesel products of petron and caltex, w/c is better?

i've been hearing rumors that petron kasi takes and makes short cuts when processing/refining their fuel products. may konting plano pa naman kami mag-open ng bulilit station ng petron sa probinsya. agresibo din sila manligaw eh

[jut703]

ang tagal nga. pati nga ipo nila ang tagal ipatupad

good news euro 4 na din pala ang caltex

question lang, between the euro 4 diesel products of petron and caltex, w/c is better?

i've been hearing rumors that petron kasi takes and makes short cuts when processing/refining their fuel products. may konting plano pa naman kami mag-open ng bulilit station ng petron sa probinsya. agresibo din sila manligaw eh

Noon pa dapat may IPO ang Shell since the law states that all companies operating refineries should be public. Galing din ng legal team eh no, hanggang ngayon la pa IPO.

Caltex just buys from Petron for most of their NL supply. Yung mga malapit lang sa Batangas yung nasusupplyan ng depot nila dun. But elsewhere in the country halos wala na silang sariling supply. Though to be fair maganda naman additives ng Caltex, and as a multinational they usually have better operational standards compared to smaller players.

I would strongly recommend against getting a Petron Bulilit today. Back in the late '00s when it was launched, it was a good idea - Petron invests in your pumps and tanks, all you needed was a small plot of land in a rural town, plus the civil works. For less than 3M you can already have a station.

At that time you would gross about P120k a month. Higher if your town has huge volume potential. Net would be about 60k.

Nowadays, Petron has many bulilits per town, so volume is halved, gross income is halved, but investment and fixed costs remain the same.

But what really puts the nail in the coffin is that Petron also supplies to the generic/independent stations around you. So ikaw, Petron ka, you have to make do with their pathetic unit margin. Yung generic, bebentahan nila at near-wholesale prices which results in much better margins.

For example, ikaw as Petron Bulilit, bebentahan ka diesel at P25/L, yung generic sa tabi mo bebentahan din ni Petron but at P22/L. Sasabihin sayo ng ASE mo, "eh di naman kami naginvest diyan so we don't have to recover anything", but when you compute it, ilang buwan lang bawi na yung generic sa puhunan niya kasi ang laki ng unit margin niya.

Kawawa talaga Petron Bulilit ngayon. Oversaturated network, plus the fact that Petron is supplying to independents because they have to flush out their products to keep their Limay Refinery profitable to justify the millions of dollars they invested in it.

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[radz15]

Noon pa dapat may IPO ang Shell since the law states that all companies operating refineries should be public. Galing din ng legal team eh no, hanggang ngayon la pa IPO.

Caltex just buys from Petron for most of their NL supply. Yung mga malapit lang sa Batangas yung nasusupplyan ng depot nila dun. But elsewhere in the country halos wala na silang sariling supply. Though to be fair maganda naman additives ng Caltex, and as a multinational they usually have better operational standards compared to smaller players.

I would strongly recommend against getting a Petron Bulilit today. Back in the late '00s when it was launched, it was a good idea - Petron invests in your pumps and tanks, all you needed was a small plot of land in a rural town, plus the civil works. For less than 3M you can already have a station.

At that time you would gross about P120k a month. Higher if your town has huge volume potential. Net would be about 60k.

Nowadays, Petron has many bulilits per town, so volume is halved, gross income is halved, but investment and fixed costs remain the same.

But what really puts the nail in the coffin is that Petron also supplies to the generic/independent stations around you. So ikaw, Petron ka, you have to make do with their pathetic unit margin. Yung generic, bebentahan nila at near-wholesale prices which results in much better margins.

For example, ikaw as Petron Bulilit, bebentahan ka diesel at P25/L, yung generic sa tabi mo bebentahan din ni Petron but at P22/L. Sasabihin sayo ng ASE mo, "eh di naman kami naginvest diyan so we don't have to recover anything", but when you compute it, ilang buwan lang bawi na yung generic sa puhunan niya kasi ang laki ng unit margin niya.

Kawawa talaga Petron Bulilit ngayon. Oversaturated network, plus the fact that Petron is supplying to independents because they have to flush out their products to keep their Limay Refinery profitable to justify the millions of dollars they invested in it.

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Question lang sir. Halos lahat ba ng generic na gasoline station sa petron nakuha ng supply? Meaning euro4 na rin sila?.

[jut703]

Question lang sir. Halos lahat ba ng generic na gasoline station sa petron nakuha ng supply? Meaning euro4 na rin sila?.

Iba iba, depende sa area. All brands naman aggressive din sa wholesale except Caltex. Petron pa rin pinakamalaking market share sa wholesale ngayon kasi bagsak presyo sila. But iba iba talaga. And usually hindi exclusive - minsan yung gasolina galing Shell, diesel galing Total. O kaya this delivery sa PTT kukuha, next week sa Unioil.

Ganun ang buhay generic. Walang exclusivity. Kung saan mura dun sila.

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[CVT]

Noon pa dapat may IPO ang Shell since the law states that all companies operating refineries should be public. Galing din ng legal team eh no, hanggang ngayon la pa IPO.

Caltex just buys from Petron for most of their NL supply. Yung mga malapit lang sa Batangas yung nasusupplyan ng depot nila dun. But elsewhere in the country halos wala na silang sariling supply. Though to be fair maganda naman additives ng Caltex, and as a multinational they usually have better operational standards compared to smaller players.

I would strongly recommend against getting a Petron Bulilit today. Back in the late '00s when it was launched, it was a good idea - Petron invests in your pumps and tanks, all you needed was a small plot of land in a rural town, plus the civil works. For less than 3M you can already have a station.

At that time you would gross about P120k a month. Higher if your town has huge volume potential. Net would be about 60k.

Nowadays, Petron has many bulilits per town, so volume is halved, gross income is halved, but investment and fixed costs remain the same.

But what really puts the nail in the coffin is that Petron also supplies to the generic/independent stations around you. So ikaw, Petron ka, you have to make do with their pathetic unit margin. Yung generic, bebentahan nila at near-wholesale prices which results in much better margins.

For example, ikaw as Petron Bulilit, bebentahan ka diesel at P25/L, yung generic sa tabi mo bebentahan din ni Petron but at P22/L. Sasabihin sayo ng ASE mo, "eh di naman kami naginvest diyan so we don't have to recover anything", but when you compute it, ilang buwan lang bawi na yung generic sa puhunan niya kasi ang laki ng unit margin niya.

Kawawa talaga Petron Bulilit ngayon. Oversaturated network, plus the fact that Petron is supplying to independents because they have to flush out their products to keep their Limay Refinery profitable to justify the millions of dollars they invested in it.

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Wow! Keep the factory humming to spread the FC....

Even if that means selling at near-MC.....


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[crazy_boy]

totoo ba na shell is getting their Metro Manila supply from Total?

[jodski]

May rewards card din ba ang Caltex?

Naka kubra na kasi ako sa Petron ng more than 1,500 worth if gas credits kaya medyo masaya na mag stay pa ako sa kanila

[imrain]

May points ka sa caltex if you use/present your robinsons rewards card or jollibee happy plus card.

[jodski]

^ oks... thank you

[fireice2]

Sana announce din nila anong major cities ibig nilang sabihin. Parati nalang kami huli dito sa Mindanao.

[1D4LV]

curious lang ako.... eto ang di ko masyadong maintindihan eh.
what would be the benefits of using a EURO 4 fuel compared to the others except for the cleaner emissions?

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curious lang ako.... eto ang di ko masyadong maintindihan eh.
what would be the benefits of using a EURO 4 fuel compared to the others except for the cleaner emissions?

[jaggerx3]

curious lang ako.... eto ang di ko masyadong maintindihan eh.
what would be the benefits of using a EURO 4 fuel compared to the others except for the cleaner emissions?

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curious lang ako.... eto ang di ko masyadong maintindihan eh.
what would be the benefits of using a EURO 4 fuel compared to the others except for the cleaner emissions?

+1 on this. Magbabago ba emissions lalo ng mga lumang 4D56 at D4Ds?

[StockEngine]

Less pollution

Longer engine oil life because of lower acidity

Longer injector life

Better fc 1-5% negligible😂

Higher cetane for diesels = improved power..but negligible 😂

[1D4LV]

Less pollution

Longer engine oil life because of lower acidity

Longer injector life

Better fc 1-5% negligible😂

Higher cetane for diesels = improved power..but negligible 😂

ah ok.... if it contributes to longer injector and engine oil life + less pollution, worth it pala.

[radz15]

Proven na sakin yung Euro 4 sa less black smoke specially sa jurassic 4d56

[fireice2]

Proven na sakin yung Euro 4 sa less black smoke specially sa jurassic 4d56

tried and tested sa 4D56 din. yung Petron Turbo Diesel (euro 2) pusit takbo ng montero ko.

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Proven na sakin yung Euro 4 sa less black smoke specially sa jurassic 4d56

tried and tested sa 4D56 din. yung Petron Turbo Diesel (euro 2) pusit takbo ng montero ko.

[jmpet626]

Kelan kaya ang shell? Sayang points sa advantage card at shell citi na 5% rebate. Sa Unioil pa din kasi ako.

[XTO]

Sa ngayon sa commonrail ko lang ginagamit ang Euro 4 pero time will come lahat Euro4 na. Parang E10 lang noon ayaw ng mga carb engine owners.