2018 Toyota Hilux G 4x4 MT vs 2018 Nissan NP300 VL 4x4 MT

[trucker111]

Considerations include:

1. Durable and Reliable
2. Riding Comfort
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa)
4. Looks
5. Fuel Consumption
6. Value for money (sulit)
7. Resale value

[GTi]

^A friend of mine has a Hilux 2.8 4x4 MT. According to him it is more fuel efficient than their Fortuner 2.4 4x2 AT, which he also described as being lethargic as compared to his Hilux. Superior resale also goes without saying considering the Toyota badge.

No experience with the Navara, but the coil spring rear suspension and platform used by Mercedes for rebadging suggests that it is no pushover. It will definitely win in the comfort department. But then I have also seen my fair share of loaded Navara's with sagging rears.

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[Sleepcare]

Considerations include:

1. Durable and Reliable
2. Riding Comfort
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa)
4. Looks
5. Fuel Consumption
6. Value for money (sulit)
7. Resale value

1. Durable and Reliable-Almost the same
2. Riding Comfort- City Driving goes to Navara. Highway driving goes to Hilux.
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa)- T Badge
4. Looks - Subjective pero Navara get my vote. Hindi ko kasi gusto yung look ng facelifted Hilux.
5. Fuel Consumption- Not quite sure..
6. Value for money (sulit)- Navara
7. Resale value-Hilux

[joaquim]

Hilux vigo owner, my route is around 600 kms twice a month check ng customer. Pag dating ko sa bahay sakit ng likod ko. Bought last december ng navara, hindi ganun kasakit ang aking likod. So for me sulit ang navara kung pang long drive at hindi ganun kabigat ang kargahan.



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[jut703]

1. Durable and Reliable-Almost the same
2. Riding Comfort- City Driving goes to Navara. Highway driving goes to Hilux.
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa)- T Badge
4. Looks - Subjective pero Navara get my vote. Hindi ko kasi gusto yung look ng facelifted Hilux.
5. Fuel Consumption- Not quite sure..
6. Value for money (sulit)- Navara
7. Resale value-Hilux

Why do you say that the Hilux is better for highway driving? Brought one to Baguio before - ang tagtag, worse than my old Ranger. Whether as driver or passenger, the ride is quite harsh. With the Ranger, ramdam lang tagtag when you're a passenger in the back but not as a driver. The Navara is even more comfortable than both.

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[LN106G]

Considerations include:

1. Durable and Reliable
2. Riding Comfort
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa)
4. Looks
5. Fuel Consumption
6. Value for money (sulit)
7. Resale value

if you will use the pick up truck loaded most of the time, I'll reco the hilux. The issue with the hilux is the riding comfort, but easily remedied with aftermarket suspension. Not too keen on Nissans as they are a headache to maintain longterm. I dont have to elaborate as having owned several 4WD's from different brands

[Sleepcare]

Why do you say that the Hilux is better for highway driving? Brought one to Baguio before - ang tagtag, worse than my old Ranger. Whether as driver or passenger, the ride is quite harsh. With the Ranger, ramdam lang tagtag when you're a passenger in the back but not as a driver. The Navara is even more comfortable than both.

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For me kasi, definition ko ng riding comfort is kung magiging comfortable ako driving as driver more than riding as a passenger.

Case in point, MUX and Trailblazer. Mas gusto ko parin i-drive yung TBZ kasi mas firm yung suspension and mas ramdam yung road as compared sa MUX na kapag nasa highway (little bit above legal speed limit), nakakatakot na.

[timtonymanu]

Considerations include:

1. Durable and Reliable
2. Riding Comfort
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa)
4. Looks
5. Fuel Consumption
6. Value for money (sulit)
7. Resale value

Here is my two cents worth for your query on the subject:

1. Durable and Reliable - Hilux, by a slim margin. Subok na din kasi ang Navara.
2. Riding Comfort - Navara, with its multi-link rear suspension. Besides, the issue with the Hilux is that if fails in the Moose Test.
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa) - Hilux. Parts availability not a problem. Traditional leaf spring suspension requires lesser maintenance than Navara.
4. Looks - Navara. Mas brusko.
5. Fuel Consumption - Based on reviews I think even.
6. Value for money (sulit) - Navara.
7. Resale value - Hilux.

[StockEngine]

steering wins this round... hilux.

mod the suspension...

rev matching ?

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[trucker111]

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

[Sleepcare]

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

Yes!

I guess they wanted to be on the other side of the fence since abroad, they are really taking the word "utility" seriously.

[Egan101]

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

Maybe Toyota thought that pickup trucks should be that way. If you want a comfortable ride, they want you to buy a Camry or a RAV4.

[StockEngine]

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

new hilux roccos in Thailand have revised suspensions

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[LN106G]

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...😂

[JJB]

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...[emoji23]

+1000 on this


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[dr. d]

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...😂

and, they are long and not easy to park.

[GTcervan]

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...😂

Only bought for their infamous road presence...

Just kidding. 😂

[Walter]

Ford Ranger Raptor ... ticks almost all the boxes ...

[GTi]

For someone like me who has no need for the hauling capabilities of a pickup, it is like buying half an SUV with a long, topless trunk attached to the rear. [emoji23] Some people find pickups attractive, but I personally find them impractical for city driving, and have deterred my father from getting one on several occasions. I honestly find the base model 15 seater FB body variant one of the most practical vehicles ever made. Now if they could do the same with the top variant a la LC70 troop carrier plus the zero tax on pickups, that would be a very different story for me...

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[Walter]

Also averse to purchasing a pickup ... but then the Ford Ranger Raptor came along ... wonder if they would consider making a Ford Everest Raptor ...

Also because of the new tax scheme ... one might want to start considering a pickup ... it's deisel, high ground clearance and tax free ... hard to beat ...