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    Hi Guys,

    I'm currently considering these 2 CUV's to replace my 5 year old Honda City 1.5 E.

    I will be utilizing a company car plan max of 1M. I can only add 150k tops as I intend to pay off our condo parking slot once my old car is sold.

    The CUV will be my daily drive (Muntinlupa-Makati) on weekdays, nearby malls on weekends (wife, baby & yaya) and ocassional out of town vacations (4x a year).

    I was initially looking at sedans (Altis/Mz3/Sylphy) however, my wife prefers a higher ride plus adequate space. Hence, the aforementioned choices.

    I'm trying to capitalize on the big discounts these current models have. Would welcome other sugestions, but subject to budget restrictions.

    Appreciate your invaluable inputs! Thanks in advance!

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    If I had a P 1.150M budget, I would go for the diesel SUV's like the Montero GLX. This 7 seater handles about the same as a 5 seater CUV. It may be more frugal cause its a crdi diesel. And definitely a high rider with bigger space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcal68 View Post
    If I had a P 1.150M budget, I would go for the diesel SUV's like the Montero GLX. This 7 seater handles about the same as a 5 seater CUV. It may be more frugal cause its a crdi diesel. And definitely a high rider with bigger space.
    ^i agree..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcal68 View Post
    If I had a P 1.150M budget, I would go for the diesel SUV's like the Montero GLX. This 7 seater handles about the same as a 5 seater CUV. It may be more frugal cause its a crdi diesel. And definitely a high rider with bigger space.
    its like driving a truck everyday. diesel clatter saket sa ulo...especially sa makati traffic.

    he has free fuel naman from the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcal68 View Post
    If I had a P 1.150M budget, I would go for the diesel SUV's like the Montero GLX. This 7 seater handles about the same as a 5 seater CUV. It may be more frugal cause its a crdi diesel. And definitely a high rider with bigger space.
    A big SUV like that would not handle as well as a CUV, sa corners pa lang much stable ang pakiramdam nung CUV, while the SUV drives like a truck. And besides the big SUVs are heavier, you would have to pull that weight all the time driving in the metro. And the diesel engines they have are so decade ago, noisy and inefficient compared to the modern diesels.

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    The tucson has the nu 2.0 engine. The kia uses the old theta 2.0
    Tucson has drl lights with adjustable projection lamps.
    Tucson has bigger rim and tires.
    Tucson has immobilizer. kia no


    Only small downside is lack of abs. kia has this.
    kia has eletric folding sidr mirrors.

    my vote goes to tucson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    The tucson has the nu 2.0 engine. The kia uses the old theta 2.0
    Tucson has drl lights with adjustable projection lamps.
    Tucson has bigger rim and tires.
    Tucson has immobilizer. kia no


    Only small downside is lack of abs. kia has this.
    kia has eletric folding sidr mirrors.

    my vote goes to tucson.
    Kia: Walang immobilizer pero may electric folding mirrors? Hyundai: May DRL and bigger wheels, pero walang ABS? Where are their priorities?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwapster View Post
    Kia: Walang immobilizer pero may electric foldking mirrors? Hyundai: May DRL and bigger wheels, pero walang ABS? Where are their priorities?!?
    I dont know hehehe. I just looked at the brochures. I guess HARI is just differentiate the brands. I love the nu2.0 engine though hehehe. torque down low is good. and the 6at is smart in the city and highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcal68 View Post
    If I had a P 1.150M budget, I would go for the diesel SUV's like the Montero GLX. This 7 seater handles about the same as a 5 seater CUV. It may be more frugal cause its a crdi diesel. And definitely a high rider with bigger space.
    Actually, when went to Mitsubishi to check on the ASX (which is small btw), the Montero GLX was offered to us at 1.22M (after discounts). We got overwhelmed by the size and I can't imagine myself bringing that to work everyday with just me and no passenger. While from a practical stand-point it's enticing (diesel-engine, 7-seater), I don't think it fits my current requirement at the moment (unless I'm missing on something very compelling).

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    its like driving a truck everyday. diesel clatter saket sa ulo...especially sa makati traffic.

    he has free fuel naman from the company.
    I've never owned a vehicle ran by diesel, so maintenance is something I don't want to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwapster View Post
    A big SUV like that would not handle as well as a CUV, sa corners pa lang much stable ang pakiramdam nung CUV, while the SUV drives like a truck. And besides the big SUVs are heavier, you would have to pull that weight all the time driving in the metro. And the diesel engines they have are so decade ago, noisy and inefficient compared to the modern diesels.
    Noted on your points above. Also, I'm not sure if it's advisable for me to use the Monty as a daily-driver, unless it's for flood-fording purposes. But then again I may be missing on something that could change the way I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    The tucson has the nu 2.0 engine. The kia uses the old theta 2.0
    Tucson has drl lights with adjustable projection lamps.
    Tucson has bigger rim and tires.
    Tucson has immobilizer. kia no


    Only small downside is lack of abs. kia has this.
    kia has eletric folding sidr mirrors.

    my vote goes to tucson.
    I also noticed that this version of the Sportage is stripped-down. No DRL (previous model has it), no side-repeater (previous model also has it), not sure about the other ommissions. The only positive addition is the rear aircon vents.

    The Tucson feels bigger (subjective?), new engine (more fuel efficient?), didn't notice the drl/projection lamps in this trim. The downside is that it will be replaced by a newer one in the next few months, which would make this current model outdated. Any news on when they're face-lifting the Sportage?

    Both seem lacking in the safety department...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilder View Post
    I also noticed that this version of the Sportage is stripped-down. No DRL (previous model has it), no side-repeater (previous model also has it), not sure about the other ommissions. The only positive addition is the rear aircon vents.

    The Tucson feels bigger (subjective?), new engine (more fuel efficient?), didn't notice the drl/projection lamps in this trim. The downside is that it will be replaced by a newer one in the next few months, which would make this current model outdated. Any news on when they're face-lifting the Sportage?

    Both seem lacking in the safety department...
    kia interior makes it feel small. tucson interior is better imo.

    kia will introduce the tiger nose on the sportage next year. they just released the sorento with the new design philosophy soon its younger sibling will get.

    mega savings on the older models. the tucson looks fine as long as there is drl hehehe. dont worry about the a/c, vkool tints fixes that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilder View Post
    Actually, when went to Mitsubishi to check on the ASX (which is small btw), the Montero GLX was offered to us at 1.22M (after discounts). We got overwhelmed by the size and I can't imagine myself bringing that to work everyday with just me and no passenger. While from a practical stand-point it's enticing (diesel-engine, 7-seater), I don't think it fits my current requirement at the moment (unless I'm missing on something very compelling).
    You are now a family man, maybe its about time that you get used to driving bigger cars. Think of the better comfort it brings to your precious passengers. Test drive one and discover that driving it is not that different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilder View Post
    I've never owned a vehicle ran by diesel, so maintenance is something I don't want to worry about.
    While it is true that diesel engines are noisier than gasoline engines, once you are inside the difference is insignificant.
    The advantages of a diesel engine far outweighs this minor disadvantage. This is the reason why diesel powered cars are relatively more expensive. The maintenance cost difference is not that significant.

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    how much discount now for these models?

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    For some reason, i feel the kias drive better. Haven't driven the tucson with the Nu engine though. The theta is pretty decent. Test drive both, they actually feel different even if they are practically twins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcal68 View Post
    While it is true that diesel engines are noisier than gasoline engines, once you are inside the difference is insignificant.
    The advantages of a diesel engine far outweighs this minor disadvantage. This is the reason why diesel powered cars are relatively more expensive. The maintenance cost difference is not that significant.
    diesel engines are naturally noisier than gas, by virtue of their design. and only the user can decide for himself if this added noise and vibration is acceptable. some will pick on it simply because they have to come up with something negative.. heh heh.
    diesels cost more, because they are more expensive to manufacture. whether this higher cost is acceptable or not, is something only the buyer can decide on.
    acceptable cost of repair and maintenance? now, that's one hot issue still under heavy debate.

    why do i like diesel? ...bahain samen... for whatever real or perceived advantage the diesel has against floods..
    Last edited by dr. d; May 5th, 2015 at 09:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilder View Post
    Actually, when went to Mitsubishi to check on the ASX (which is small btw), the Montero GLX was offered to us at 1.22M (after discounts). We got overwhelmed by the size and I can't imagine myself bringing that to work everyday with just me and no passenger. While from a practical stand-point it's enticing (diesel-engine, 7-seater), I don't think it fits my current requirement at the moment (unless I'm missing on something very compelling).
    I drive a montero daily by myself. I would say that the fuel economy is nice - and once you get used to the size you wouldn't mind anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    kia interior makes it feel small. tucson interior is better imo.

    kia will introduce the tiger nose on the sportage next year. they just released the sorento with the new design philosophy soon its younger sibling will get.

    mega savings on the older models. the tucson looks fine as long as there is drl hehehe. dont worry about the a/c, vkool tints fixes that.
    That's what I felt when I went inside, the Tucson seems bigger. I didn't notice if it has rear aircon vents though, but I was sure there was in Sportage.

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