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    I sold my Toyota Fortuner 2007 recently. I'm choosing Toyota Fortuner 2012 as replacement. But saw the Nissan Safari Patrol 2012 and was attracted to the body. As per the amount, of course, Patrol is too high to compare with fortuner. But gusto ko rin malaman kung how much ang bagsak ng resale value ng dalawa? If Patrol is worth the resale price, its value with the specs and features, i would go for the Nissan Patrol. Please help. Newbie here.

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    Cars are always a losing investment. Get one you like to have, not you like to sell. That said, the residual value of the patrol is a bit low. Not because its a bad vehicle, but because the market perceives the brand as not as strong as toyota or honda.

    For me, the solid front axle alone makes it worth my while. The jeep wrangler, land rover defender and land cruiser 70 are about the only other vehicles left with such feature.

    Be aware though that the super safari despite all the trimmings, still rides and drives like a truck. You might miss the comfort of the fortuner.

    Oh, and the turning radius is quite large. Even a land cruiser 80 with the same suspension layout has a smaller turning radius than the super safari.

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    With the Fortuner, you are losing about 600,000 over three years with the 4x4. With the Patrol, even if the Patrol keeps 70% of its value over three years, you will still be losing a million bucks in resale value in that time.

    That's not including the 60,000 - 150,000 in insurance you'll be paying...

    If resale value is important to you, don't buy a brand new vehicle. Buy one at least two or three years used.

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    i can't find a thread about the Nissan safari 2012. I can't even find anything about it online. There's one link but it's blocked due to malwares daw. I really can't find the pros and cons of it. It's unfair for me to buy it just because of the looks.

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    The nissan patrol gu has had minimal mechanical changes since its launch in 2001. Mostly cosmetic. So they all pretty much drive the same. Save for the self destructing 2001 models. Hehe

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    Not the proper mindset,- bibilhin pa lang,- pagbebenta na ang iniisip....
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    ang mindset ng bibilihin tapos ang pagbebenta ay ung mga negosyanteng may buy and sell business.

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    If the TS is looking at Nissan Patrol Super Safari as a replacement to his Toyota Fortuner, let us just say that he is like upgrading his current ride with a Toyota Prado. Then compare the pros and cons of the upgrade from a Fortuner to a Prado then compare the Prado to the Super Safari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    ang mindset ng bibilihin tapos ang pagbebenta ay ung mga negosyanteng may buy and sell business.
    And that only works with secondhand cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Not the proper mindset,- bibilhin pa lang,- pagbebenta na ang iniisip....
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    Naku... E ganyan talaga ako. Binebenta ko car ko after 4-5 years of usage kaya importante na rin na iconsider ko ang resale value. Also.... The dilemma is if the money is worth the unit. Babae po ako... D ko alam ang ibang factors to consider. Mahilig lang ako sa malalaking cars.... Which my husband and I enjoy. May Dodge Nitro 08 dn kame which we'll be selling soon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyuti View Post
    Naku... E ganyan talaga ako. Binebenta ko car ko after 4-5 years of usage kaya importante na rin na iconsider ko ang resale value. Also.... The dilemma is if the money is worth the unit. Babae po ako... D ko alam ang ibang factors to consider. Mahilig lang ako sa malalaking cars.... Which my husband and I enjoy. May Dodge Nitro 08 dn kame which we'll be selling soon too.
    If you're going to resell it, buy a secondhand two year old Patrol, then sell it in two more years before the warranty runs out. Buy one brand new and expect to lose 1.2 - 1.3 million pesos when you resell it in 3 years. That's enough to buy you a Montero Sport. Actually... given the comfort of the Patrol, a Montero Sport 4x4 AT isn't actually a bad trade-off. More comfortable, and it's faster, to boot.

    Doesn't matter if resale value is good. An expensive car loses a lot of money in resale value. Period! Unless it's a Land Cruiser... which will merely lose you some 600,000 pesos over three years (roughly the same as the Fortuner)... but that costs a whole lot more than a Super Safari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyuti View Post
    I sold my Toyota Fortuner 2007 recently. I'm choosing Toyota Fortuner 2012 as replacement. But saw the Nissan Safari Patrol 2012 and was attracted to the body. As per the amount, of course, Patrol is too high to compare with fortuner. But gusto ko rin malaman kung how much ang bagsak ng resale value ng dalawa? If Patrol is worth the resale price, its value with the specs and features, i would go for the Nissan Patrol. Please help. Newbie here.
    My dad drives a 2003 NISSAN Patrol 3.0 - If I have the cash I'd buy my own NISSAN Patrol Super Safari. Its a great car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiper View Post
    My dad drives a 2003 NISSAN Patrol 3.0 - If I have the cash I'd buy my own NISSAN Patrol Super Safari. Its a great car.
    Newbie! Initiation na yan! :bottom:

    Personally i would go for a Patrol over the Fortuner... but that's me.

    *Otep, the turning radius of the Patrol can still be adjusted right? And its not as bad as the old Pajero?

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    I own a 2005 and 2009 Fortuner. I also used to own a 2002 Patrol. the ride quality of the Patrol is definitely truck-like, even more so than the Fortuner. I've heard people say that the 2012 Fortuner has an improved ride quality, but keep in mind that you're basically buying a face-lifted model. same thing with the Patrol, with the current model being available overseas as far back as 2005 or 2006. Despite having a new hood, headlight and tail lights, plus a new dashboard compared to the earlier models, is basically the same Y61 Nissan Patrol. If you intend to use your vehicle for more than 8 years, I don't think resale value is such an important factor anymore.

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    The 2012 has improved primary ride, noticeable on the highway over crests and dips, but it's still very jiggly and harsh over sharp bumps.

    The rear seat cushions have been redesigned and re-padded to mitigate the harshness, also. They're actually better than the Montero's, but the Montero still rides better.

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    Si kiper newbie na honda fanboy iyan! Hehe.

    Vinj, hindi ko alam if adjustable pa. Its limited by the driveshaft angle inside e knuckle, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    Si kiper newbie na honda fanboy iyan! Hehe.

    Vinj, hindi ko alam if adjustable pa. Its limited by the driveshaft angle inside e knuckle, right?
    Nako, di lang initiation yung mga ganyan, dapat may pakain pa. :D

    How about yung sa stopper niya? I recall something like that before that they could move it or something.

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    The dodge nitro is tiny compared to a full size patrol. Suggest ko talaga get the dealer to give you a good test drive. Ancient na kasi talaga ang patrol. It feels like driving in 1988 all over again. Its not for mainstream use and they dont even bother to try and sell a lot of units. Hehe.

    But its cool to be different. And oh, i love the sound the engine makes. Very agricultural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    The dodge nitro is tiny compared to a full size patrol. Suggest ko talaga get the dealer to give you a good test drive. Ancient na kasi talaga ang patrol. It feels like driving in 1988 all over again. Its not for mainstream use and they dont even bother to try and sell a lot of units. Hehe.

    But its cool to be different. And oh, i love the sound the engine makes. Very agricultural.
    true, we have a nissan patrol. ancient nga talaga. HAHAHAHAHA feel na feel mo un alog ng diesel engine.

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    Oryt then.... Salama po sa comments... Now, i'm eyeing for Prado and Fortuner. Definitely better ang prado. But i have to compare fuel efficieny of the two. Plus other factors. Salamat!!!

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