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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    I know there is a thread on tucson or fortuner. But had to start another one because my dilemma is choosing between the two.

    well comparing lang on santa fe crdi 2.2 vs fortuner 2.5 dsl if available but if not 3.0 dsl.

    Okay quick comparisons.

    fortuner -
    1. if 3.0 its 4x4
    2. Toyota siya.
    3. a little bit bigger

    Santa Fe.
    1. 2.2 crdi 4x2 lang
    2. same unit that is road worthy in the US and Europe. Here the fortuner is not even sold in the US
    3. mid size SUV so i think ride wise better kasi SUV built talaga not pick-up dressed to be SUV

    Inputs naman.
    for santa fe owners mileage consumption naman.

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    2.5 Fortuner vs 2.2 Santa Fe = Santa Fe or current CRDI 4x2 Sorento

    3.0 Fortuner vs 2.2 Santa Fe = I'd wait for the 4x4 Sorento w/ VGT/170+hp

    If you are not the type of person who would change his/her million-peso cars every couple of years or less, do not be too mindful of the resale value. Think of your riding experience for 3 or more years instead of nail-biting on your first day of purchase because your car would not not have a high appraisal in 3 years or so.

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    from what i read in the forum about SF and 42nr, if you have extra money go for santa fe, because even if its 1.5M something, the features and all is worth more than what you're gonna pay for...its like you're selling a 2M plus murano for 1.5M.

    And about the resale value, i was thinking, since hyndai is making a good mark in the car industry, the Filipinos myt just have a change of mind with regards to comparing hyndai and toyota cars...so who knows..nothings impossible...

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    If you do not have off-roading adventures in mind, the Santa Fe gets my vote.

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    #5
    Same here. I'd rather go for a road-tuned unibody vehicle like the Santa Fe rather than an off-roader with a stiff suspension and a ladder-frame for urban use.

    And you do have a point about the Santa Fe's crashworthiness rating. It's a pretty good deal as compared to Japanese or US nameplates.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    I own a 2.5 D4D Fortuner and my father has placed an order for a 2.2 Sta Fe. I've tried both vehicles.

    IMHO
    1. riding comfort Sta Fe ang panalo, matatag ang Fortuner
    2. power / accelaeration - Fortuner
    3. Space / Legroom - Fortuner
    4. Design - Even

    Sta Fe: Plus factor - Cooler, Self leveling suspension, disk brakes on all 4's, HID headlights. stock leather seats (in the Fortuner it cost me 60T plus)

    But I hate the fake wood trim of the Sta Fe.

    And one more thing - Ang Sta Fe parang dead steering, too soft for my taste parang walang feedback.
    Last edited by herbularyo; June 24th, 2006 at 04:23 PM.

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    kung 2.5G Fortuner, Santa Fe ako.

    kung 3.0V Fortuner, that gets my vote.

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    actually you wouldnt determine how good or bad resale value of new cars like these until it has shown its track record years down the road .. like no one cguro thought that opel would suffer such bad resale when it came out.. kaya sa new cars swertihan lang din.. so dun ka sa napupusuan mo! ako... sa hyundai!

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    #9
    I tested both. My Gf and her mom initially prefer Fortuner.

    Fortuner: stiff (ika nga nung isang owner bugbog sarado ka pag long trips), revo like interior, D-4D problems (something that BMW and Hyundai CRDi engines never had), Can go fast but has some reports of brake and reliability issues.

    Santa Fe: Luxurious interior, well-thought features, so many features for the price. Ergo, good value for the money. Practically just an upgrade from the tried and tested Tucson (i think they're using the same engine based on the specsheets).

    Very soft ride, nice acceleration, good fuel economy, 4 Disc Brakes, EBD, ABS, ESC, TCS safety features.

    And finally, not much on the road (it's so common to see 5 Fortuners every hour now which makes the truck's exclusivity gone).

    After we did so much evaluation between the two and after making dealerships fight each other (LOL!), my gf went for the Santa Fe CRDi. We reserved it yesterday, delivery is within a week :-)

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    BTW, what i mean with the Revo-like interior is that, Revo and Fortuner has the same class not that Revo's interior is bad. hehe They have a revo SR too :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower
    BTW, what i mean with the Revo-like interior is that, Revo and Fortuner has the same class not that Revo's interior is bad. hehe They have a revo SR too :-)

    Sobra ka naman. My previous ride was a Revo and my current is a Fortuner.

    BTW, pero OK yong Sta Fe ha.My father placed an order for a White 2.2 Sta. Fe. It will take daw 2-4 wks cuz the color was not included in their intial stocks.
    Last edited by herbularyo; June 24th, 2006 at 04:30 PM.

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    #12
    Matagtag ang Fortuner, sakit sa katawan.

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    Sobra ka naman. My previous ride was a Revo and my current is a Fortuner.

    BTW, pero OK yong Hyundai ha.My father placed an order for a White 2.2 Sta. Fe. It will take daw 2-4 wks cuz the color was not included in their intial stocks.
    Hehehe, sorry sir, no offense meant in there.

    Sa taas kasi ng price ng Fortuner parang tinipid yung interior, pati safety features, up to now I can't explain why they didn't equip a vehicle that fast (we drive fast) with 4-Disc Brakes and Traction control. Una ko kasing tinitingnan talaga yung safety features, more than the engine and looks. Pero tama ka, although okay lang for me, soft yung steering ng santa fe, masyado ata malakas power nung power steering. hehe. I hope meron na rin sila nung Active Steering but maybe that's far more expensive technology.

    I bet your dad will be happy with it. The pearly white color is very elegant. We got the Ti-Blue color. Apparently as limited edition as the white ones (not sure if that's really true or sales talk but the SA we met was really nice).

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    Actually, if you consider the price, the Revo's interior, particularly in the VX models, is pretty good. For its price, the Fortuner's interior isn't very impressive in looks (space is good, though)... although I'm not really impressed by the Alterra's interior.

    The Everest interior is okay by me, but then again, it feels very Mazda-ish (switchgear is based on Ford-Mazda products) and similar to the Lynx and Ranger, so I may be biased.

    Talagang loose ba yung steering ng Santa Fe? I guess that's a plus for the Fortuner. It's got pretty good steering for a truck.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    hmmm, di naman loose. it's okay for me. I've driven several vehicles and this one is okay lang kasi accurate naman yung turns, steering is effortless although how I wish it has BMW's Active Steering. siguro nire-research pa nila paano ma-adopt yon.

    I especially like the Tiptronic tranny (they have a name for it that i forgot), can go Auto and Manual in a flash.

    We both like driving manual (I prefer non-powered steering too), but traffic here is crazy and having convenience to switch to manual and automatic is such a nice and useful feature at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    Talagang loose ba yung steering ng Santa Fe? I guess that's a plus for the Fortuner. It's got pretty good steering for a truck.
    Sir, that's what I first noticed when I tried the Sta Fe. (I was driving kase the Fortuner from our town (distance: 100Km) to the showroom in the city). My father also told my that he has the tendency to oversteer during the testdrive due to lack of feedback. Pero sabi nya sanayan lang daw yan, after a week or 2 malamang nakaka-adjust na daw cya.

    Disclaimer: This is just my own personal opinion.

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    thanks guys for the feedback. Please keep it coming. went back to showrooms again today. too bad nabenta na yung 4x4 na santa fe the other day. just wanted to make a quick comparison to the fortuner. And as i remember the santa fe just feels better. Was not able to see the 2.2 version since according to them hindi pa nalabas sa customs or pier. wanted to see the black leather (which is the only color for the 2.2) though the interior is black too. again the wood trim is the only down side but, i guess i can order better ones like the ones used in the US version. Anyways seems like i'm more inclined to the santa fe at this point. But still want to hear from others what they think. Sayang lang they took out the side airbags and sunroof. if not patok yun....

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    Pero ang pogi talaga ng Fortuner ano? hehe

    Loko lang yung mga dealerships dito. Yun din ang reason why we didn't get the Fortuner.

    Ano kaya purpose ng toyota at gumawa sila ng parang nemesis to LC Prado in terms of size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower
    Hehehe, sorry sir, no offense meant in there.

    Sa taas kasi ng price ng Fortuner parang tinipid yung interior, pati safety features, up to now I can't explain why they didn't equip a vehicle that fast (we drive fast) with 4-Disc Brakes and Traction control. Una ko kasing tinitingnan talaga yung safety features, more than the engine and looks. Pero tama ka, although okay lang for me, soft yung steering ng santa fe, masyado ata malakas power nung power steering. hehe. I hope meron na rin sila nung Active Steering but maybe that's far more expensive technology.

    I bet your dad will be happy with it. The pearly white color is very elegant. We got the Ti-Blue color. Apparently as limited edition as the white ones (not sure if that's really true or sales talk but the SA we met was really nice).

    No problem, sir.

    IMO the Sta Fe at almost 1.6M for a 2.2 diesel 4x2 is too expensive if you consider the powerplant and brandname (sad to say pero ganyan pa rin dito sa Pinas). You can get the 4x4 Fortuner at almost the same price.

    Pero I still encouraged my father to buy one because of the ride comfort and it is easier to get in /out of the ST (in case magkarayuma na daw siya). Hope his SF will arrive in 2-4 weeks so I can get pictures of his ride beside my Fortuner.

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    *Dinan: are you really going to find the 4x4 useful like in a farm or somethng? If not, try checking out the CRDi 4x2 or wait for the 4x4 CRDi.

    medyo malakas sa gas yung V6 nila eh, 9km/L ata.

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