Small Engine (AT) vs Big Engine (CVT)

[red_one]

In terms of fuel economy, which is better?

1. Mitsubishi LancerEX MX 1.6L (4-AT) or LancerEX GT-A 2.0L (6-CVT)?
2. Toyota Altis 1.6G (4-AT) or Altis 2.0V (7-CVT)?

Thanks.

[mrjeff]

Sir single speed lang ang mga CVT.

[e2romo]

CVT is always more fuel efficient compared to standard ATs,provided same engine specs is being used for comparison.

[red_one]

Sir single speed lang ang mga CVT.

Hehe, single speed so primera lang siya lagi?

6-CVT and 7-CVT is from manufacturer datasheet and refer to equivalent speed when compared to conventional AT.

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Sir single speed lang ang mga CVT.

Hehe, single speed so primera lang siya lagi?

6-CVT and 7-CVT is from manufacturer datasheet and refer to equivalent speed when compared to conventional AT.

[red_one]

CVT is always more fuel efficient compared to standard ATs,provided same engine specs is being used for comparison.

True but I am not comparing same engine specs in this thread. Please see car models I posted above. Thanks.

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CVT is always more fuel efficient compared to standard ATs,provided same engine specs is being used for comparison.

True but I am not comparing same engine specs in this thread. Please see car models I posted above. Thanks.

[jcal68]

Please add usage parameters such as percentile in city and highway driving, percentile on the number of passengers. And if the driver is male or female.

[baker123]

IMHO, 1.6L still best for fuel economy. specially with stop and go traffic or city driving. unless we are talking about rpms above 4,000 or so. or higher speed wherein you can utilise the cvt's many gears.

so which use will the cars be?

In terms of fuel economy, which is better?

1. Mitsubishi LancerEX MX 1.6L (4-AT) or LancerEX GT-A 2.0L (6-CVT)?
2. Toyota Altis 1.6G (4-AT) or Altis 2.0V (7-CVT)?

Thanks.

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IMHO, 1.6L still best for fuel economy. specially with stop and go traffic or city driving. unless we are talking about rpms above 4,000 or so. or higher speed wherein you can utilise the cvt's many gears.

so which use will the cars be?

In terms of fuel economy, which is better?

1. Mitsubishi LancerEX MX 1.6L (4-AT) or LancerEX GT-A 2.0L (6-CVT)?
2. Toyota Altis 1.6G (4-AT) or Altis 2.0V (7-CVT)?

Thanks.

[RC-V]

Are you making an inquiry so you could get an idea if it's better to get a more powerful engine and yet more economical (CVT) than a smaller engine using traditional AT?

Kung minimal lang ang difference nila in terms of FC, I might as well get the bigger CVT engine.

Insterested din ako, which is better?

[red_one]

Please add usage parameters such as percentile in city and highway driving, percentile on the number of passengers. And if the driver is male or female.

Let's say 4 passengers and same driver for both cars. Take 3 scenarios:

a) 75% city, 25% highway
b) 25% city, 75% highway
c) 50% city, 50% highway

[red_one]

Are you making an inquiry so you could get an idea if it's better to get a more powerful engine and yet more economical (CVT) than a smaller engine using traditional AT?

Kung minimal lang ang difference nila in terms of FC, I might as well get the bigger CVT engine.

Insterested din ako, which is better?

Yes bro, that's exactly what I want to know.

[istan]

Stop and go traffic, smaller engine has better Fc, irregardless of transmission. Highway driving, big engine + cvt is way better.

[ramones283]

Hehe, single speed so primera lang siya lagi?

6-CVT and 7-CVT is from manufacturer datasheet and refer to equivalent speed when compared to conventional AT.

mrjeff is quite right. But it doesn't mean na naka primera lang siya lagi. A CVT is comprised of two pulleys connected by a belt. (Same sa mga motor na mio if you already ridden it). There are no set number of “gears” in a CVT because it can choose the exact gear ratio along a “variable” continuum between it’s lowest and highest gear ratios.

Sa madaling salita, pulleys ang nagpapaandar sa mga CVT na sasakyan at hindi mga gears like the conventional Automatic Transmission cars na may gears.

[dct]

Stop and go traffic, smaller engine has better Fc, irregardless of transmission. Highway driving, big engine + cvt is way better.

Agree. Stuck ka sa traffic, less sip ng fuel ang smaller engine

[StockEngine]

1.6 4at corolla prior the cvts are still fuel efficient if driven economically.

The 2.0cvt cant match 30days of metro manila traffic fc of a 1.6 4at.

For 40liters of 91ron in metro manila:

320-400km on the 1.6 4At
260-340km on the 2.0cvt

[red_one]

mrjeff is quite right. But it doesn't mean na naka primera lang siya lagi. A CVT is comprised of two pulleys connected by a belt. (Same sa mga motor na mio if you already ridden it). There are no set number of “gears” in a CVT because it can choose the exact gear ratio along a “variable” continuum between it’s lowest and highest gear ratios.

Sa madaling salita, pulleys ang nagpapaandar sa mga CVT na sasakyan at hindi mga gears like the conventional Automatic Transmission cars na may gears.

Thanks sa clarification. But like what I already said, the 6-CVT and 7-CVT descriptions are from the manufacturer datasheet so I just posted as they are. This thread simply wants to compare small engine with traditional AT vs big engine with CVT.

[istan]

Oh yea, i forgot. On highway driving, if u di maintain a cruising speed, say 80km/h, the one who has the less rpm wins. I think.

[red_one]

1.6 4at corolla prior the cvts are still fuel efficient if driven economically.

The 2.0cvt cant match 30days of metro manila traffic fc of a 1.6 4at.

For 40liters of 91ron in metro manila:

320-400km on the 1.6 4At
260-340km on the 2.0cvt

Thanks so converted..

320-400km on the 1.6 4AT = 8-10 km/L
260-340km on the 2.0 CVT = 6.5-8.5 km/L

Are both values from the Corolla Altis?

[ejbulacan]

Stop and go traffic, smaller engine has better Fc, irregardless of transmission. Highway driving, big engine + cvt is way better.

with this, your query is already answered. up to you to decide.

[StockEngine]

Thanks so converted..

320-400km on the 1.6 4AT = 8-10 km/L
260-340km on the 2.0 CVT = 6.5-8.5 km/L

Are both values from the Corolla Altis?

Yes displacement is a big factor in metro manila.

[red_one]

Yes displacement is a big factor in metro manila.

Okay, thanks again.