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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Book a Test drive the Ford Everest.. Best steering among SUV's.. Best in overall performance also..
    Kala ko bro dati me everest ka na

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    May everest yan si glenn saka may explorer, pareho lang daw accdg. To him.

    And i agree, I also borrow our familys Pajero BK. Aside from the low ground clearance, wala naman pinagksiba sa mux bluepower sa bigat. Tapos ang nakakainis pa sa Pajero, ang daming old tech, padded side claddings, small touchscreen, and its so heavy to drive.

    It has a better paint job I suppose lol

    Yun Prado na L150, i just dont know why people would spend 2 times the price of a Montero for that old dinosaur with roof rails circa 1990s, a dashboard that cant accomodate a tilted touchscreen for driver view.

    And then I watched PatrickreyesTV while he reviewed the LC200. My gosh Yun lang pala yun laman nun loob nun, so dated design sinalpakan lang ng mga sensors saka 360 and and android screen na sinkaki ng ipad, Hyundai and Suzuki also offers that ilol wheres the exclusivity



    Tignan nyo insturment panel sa video, it sports a mono calculator trip meter. Anu ba yun parang old starex

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post

    And then I watched PatrickreyesTV while he reviewed the LC200. My gosh Yun lang pala yun laman nun loob nun, so dated design sinalpakan lang ng mga sensors saka 360 and and android screen na sinkaki ng ipad, Hyundai and Suzuki also offers that ilol wheres the exclusivity



    Tignan nyo insturment panel sa video, it sports a mono calculator trip meter. Anu ba yun parang old starex
    Grey import yun nireview, iba yun from local Toyota dealers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    Grey import yun nireview, iba yun from local Toyota dealers.
    you mean iba yun instrument panel pag sa CASA? even sa video, the reviewer said very basic daw.

    im trying to justify the cost of a LC200,

    1. V8 diesel cge wala naman ganun kahit ano PPV - maybe +500-700K compared to a 3.0 Duratorq or 2.4 Mivec.

    2. super high end suspension 4x4 system? para sa kin, suspension is either mcpherson strut front + multilink rear combo, or double wish bone front + multilink rear combo for SUVs. nothing revolutionary, it has always been like that. will it really cost a million or so for a Land cruiser suspension system, even if its patented by Toyota and for Toyota alone.

    3. the bigger body? paint job? i have seen the factories of all of these cars in youtube. Economies of scale naman lahat unless handcrafted yan like the porsche, ferrari of yesteryears

    4. leathers (seats / trims) , power seats, sensors, and electronics, mas hi-tech pa nga nakasalpak sa modern PPV

    5. it seats 7 din naman, and according to the video, the third row is comfortable to children or teeners lang as is true to the PPVs.

    6. prestige? name? Land Cruiser in the level of Land Rover, Mercedez G Class. pwede pa siguro you pay 2M-3M coz it's a Toyota Land Cruiser like so. oh well cge na nga.

    so other than that what really justifies the sub 5M of this car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    you mean iba yun instrument panel pag sa CASA? even sa video, the reviewer said very basic daw.

    im trying to justify the cost of a LC200,

    1. V8 diesel cge wala naman ganun kahit ano PPV - maybe +500-700K compared to a 3.0 Duratorq or 2.4 Mivec.

    2. super high end suspension 4x4 system? para sa kin, suspension is either mcpherson strut front + multilink rear combo, or double wish bone front + multilink rear combo for SUVs. nothing revolutionary, it has always been like that. will it really cost a million or so for a Land cruiser suspension system, even if its patented by Toyota and for Toyota alone.

    3. the bigger body? paint job? i have seen the factories of all of these cars in youtube. Economies of scale naman lahat unless handcrafted yan like the porsche, ferrari of yesteryears

    4. leathers (seats / trims) , power seats, sensors, and electronics, mas hi-tech pa nga nakasalpak sa modern PPV

    5. it seats 7 din naman, and according to the video, the third row is comfortable to children or teeners lang as is true to the PPVs.

    6. prestige? name? Land Cruiser in the level of Land Rover, Mercedez G Class. pwede pa siguro you pay 2M-3M coz it's a Toyota Land Cruiser like so. oh well cge na nga.

    so other than that what really justifies the sub 5M of this car?
    no direct competition at that price point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    you mean iba yun instrument panel pag sa CASA? even sa video, the reviewer said very basic daw.

    im trying to justify the cost of a LC200,

    1. V8 diesel cge wala naman ganun kahit ano PPV - maybe +500-700K compared to a 3.0 Duratorq or 2.4 Mivec.

    2. super high end suspension 4x4 system? para sa kin, suspension is either mcpherson strut front + multilink rear combo, or double wish bone front + multilink rear combo for SUVs. nothing revolutionary, it has always been like that. will it really cost a million or so for a Land cruiser suspension system, even if its patented by Toyota and for Toyota alone.

    3. the bigger body? paint job? i have seen the factories of all of these cars in youtube. Economies of scale naman lahat unless handcrafted yan like the porsche, ferrari of yesteryears

    4. leathers (seats / trims) , power seats, sensors, and electronics, mas hi-tech pa nga nakasalpak sa modern PPV

    5. it seats 7 din naman, and according to the video, the third row is comfortable to children or teeners lang as is true to the PPVs.

    6. prestige? name? Land Cruiser in the level of Land Rover, Mercedez G Class. pwede pa siguro you pay 2M-3M coz it's a Toyota Land Cruiser like so. oh well cge na nga.

    so other than that what really justifies the sub 5M of this car?
    Local LC200s have the higher end optitron gauge cluster with MID. I have no idea why most Dubai LC200s have the base model cluster when they are supposed to be even higher variants than the highest one available here and are more expensive by at least P1M than the local version. Perhaps the Arabs don't care much about monitoring fuel consumption?

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    I thought KDSS was standard in all LC200s but it isn't.



    The Patrol Royale has a similar (if not the same) system as standard. They call it Hydraulic Body Motion Control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    you mean iba yun instrument panel pag sa CASA? even sa video, the reviewer said very basic daw.

    im trying to justify the cost of a LC200,

    1. V8 diesel cge wala naman ganun kahit ano PPV - maybe +500-700K compared to a 3.0 Duratorq or 2.4 Mivec.

    2. super high end suspension 4x4 system? para sa kin, suspension is either mcpherson strut front + multilink rear combo, or double wish bone front + multilink rear combo for SUVs. nothing revolutionary, it has always been like that. will it really cost a million or so for a Land cruiser suspension system, even if its patented by Toyota and for Toyota alone.

    3. the bigger body? paint job? i have seen the factories of all of these cars in youtube. Economies of scale naman lahat unless handcrafted yan like the porsche, ferrari of yesteryears

    4. leathers (seats / trims) , power seats, sensors, and electronics, mas hi-tech pa nga nakasalpak sa modern PPV

    5. it seats 7 din naman, and according to the video, the third row is comfortable to children or teeners lang as is true to the PPVs.

    6. prestige? name? Land Cruiser in the level of Land Rover, Mercedez G Class. pwede pa siguro you pay 2M-3M coz it's a Toyota Land Cruiser like so. oh well cge na nga.

    so other than that what really justifies the sub 5M of this car?
    The LC200 is over engineered to last over 700t km in the toughest environments and conditions in the world. It is legendary for its toughness and reliability in harsh conditions. Thats why it costs this much.

    Actually compared to other Euro SUVs it has the best value for money. The LC200 costs 90k US$ abroad. It costs 120K AUS $ fully loaded. It costs 4.7m pesos here. Given the exchange rates that seems fair.

    But look at the Merc, audi, porsche, range rover competition. More than double the price of an LC200 but their pricing abroad is similar.

    The smart money is on the LC200. Though for me personally, i like the new Expedition.



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    Have to correct myself. Bro Toyota Ph's LC200 brochure says KDSS is equipped even on the standard version. If it still feels soft in the corners I guess it just isn't set up to be as stiff as the Y62 Patrol when cornering.

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    i don't know much about the land cruiser topic but i've always wondered, are land cruisers and nissan patrols at equal footing when doing the tough overland/off road stuff their both touted designed to do. kasi i've always preferred the nissan patrol when looks are considered even when i was a kid pa

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