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  1. Join Date
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    hello everyone, i'm new here, just want ur opinion about this, im planning to buy a car and have this option a 2008 pajero bk 3.8 v6 gas with only 20k mileage * 1.2m. or brandnew montero diesel 2.5 gls v, i was leaning towards the pajero but im worried about the fuel consumption and the resale value of this pajero, i thinks its not a wise decision if i choose the pajero its very obvious that the past owner seldom uses the pajero maybe because of the fuel consumption siguro. so pls help enlighten me with ur opinions, tnx

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    some parts of the pajero may need replacement due to deterioration cause by aging (tyres, belts, atf, etc.) + others parts that may also fail. I hope you have some estimation on this additional cost ontop of the selling price.

    since hindi naman apple-to-apple ang engine nung 2 choice mo magkaiba talaga ang FC nyan.

    if you plan to sell the car malaki ang difference ng 2008 vs 2013, kahit na mababa ang milage, baka nga pag-isipan ka na tampered ung milage kung bakit napakababa.

    but if you are keeping the car kung alin ang mas gusto mo un ang bilhin mo.

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    thanks, but ok na rin ba if montero piliin ko kasi mas practical na siguro hehe, atleast brandnew sya at diesel pa kasi my other car is a 2010 civic so dalawang gas na sila kung sakali pajero pilion ko pero is montero better than fortuner? i need a 7 seater kasi and i think mas maliit ang fortuner? and i like the multimedia with gps ng montero lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    some parts of the pajero may need replacement due to deterioration cause by aging (tyres, belts, atf, etc.) + others parts that may also fail. I hope you have some estimation on this additional cost ontop of the selling price.

    since hindi naman apple-to-apple ang engine nung 2 choice mo magkaiba talaga ang FC nyan.

    if you plan to sell the car malaki ang difference ng 2008 vs 2013, kahit na mababa ang milage, baka nga pag-isipan ka na tampered ung milage kung bakit napakababa.

    but if you are keeping the car kung alin ang mas gusto mo un ang bilhin mo.

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    sir read mo po ung thread ng montero haters at montero lovers, baka makatulong sa decision making mo

    between montero o fortuner will depend on how you will use your vehicle, meron sila pros and cons, titimbangin mo lang kung anong features ba ang mas importante sayo.

    ung mga multimedia at gps in any car pwede ka naman pakabit

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    between your choices, the montero.
    its more fuel efficient that the Pajero gas.

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    Monty it seems if you're using the car every day. Kung weekend car, Pajero it is.

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    BK owner here although diesel. If you are looking for a 7 seater SUV don't get the Pajero. The 3rd row seats are practically useless for me. I think it was just an after thought that MMPC installed it and it was really not designed as a 7 seater. Its really a 5 seater and I just had the 3rd row seats taken out.

    So if you are after a pure 7 seater SUV then the MS might be a metter choice, but my question why would you need 7 seats. Bcause if you need a pure 7 seater then an SUV might not be the best car for you

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    If the Pajero's 3rd row is already cramped, the Montero would be even more cramped due to its smaller size and ladder frame construction.

    Personally, I'm definitely not getting the gas Pajero. I'm not driving a car that drinks around 4km/L on a daily basis. If I were to get a gasoline car, it'll be a high performance sedan or crossover, definitely not a utility vehicle. There's a reason why V6 Pajero's are so cheap, and it definitely isn't because of poor quality.

    What's the budget? Are you only open to these two? With an over 1M budget, there are many upper-class cars in the 2nd hand market that will fit your budget. Perhaps instead of a new GLS-V, you can get a 2012 GTV? 2012 Mitsubishi Montero Sport GTV 2 5 diesel Dual Transmission Philippines - 11982690
    Or a 2012 Santa Fe? 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe AT R-eVGT 4x2 Fully Loaded Philippines - 11345646

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    ^ dagdag na lang kunti Kia Sportage CRDi 4x2 na!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    If the Pajero's 3rd row is already cramped, the Montero would be even more cramped due to its smaller size and ladder frame construction.
    The Montero Sport has a larger 3rd row as compared to the Pajero. Both are likewise ladder-on-frame in terms of design basics.

    My old Pajero with it's ancient 3.0L V6 did around 5-5.5km/L in the city. Pretty liveable at that time as i got the nearly the same FC from my Ford Escape 2.0. I'd guess the 3.8L with more power and MIVEC will be more respectable than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    The Montero Sport has a larger 3rd row as compared to the Pajero. Both are likewise ladder-on-frame in terms of design basics.

    My old Pajero with it's ancient 3.0L V6 did around 5-5.5km/L in the city. Pretty liveable at that time as i got the nearly the same FC from my Ford Escape 2.0. I'd guess the 3.8L with more power and MIVEC will be more respectable than that.
    AFAIK the BK Pajero is already unibody as shown in this article Mitsubishi Montero Review - Research New & Used Mitsubishi Montero Models | Edmunds and many others.

    The Escape 2.0 drinks like an alcoholic. FC rivals a V6 but struggles to get up to speed. We had a 2.0XLT, and it was thirstier than our Accord 2.4! Our Accord 3.0V6 also does around 5km/L, and will dip to 4+km/L in continuous heavy traffic. I remember niky mentioning that the 3.0L 6B31 in the Outlander and Montero Sport V6 gives similar gas mileage too. I suppose that's what most 3.0L V6 engines will give in city driving. Now +800cc is like adding an Alto engine to the 3.0. I believe it'll consume much more like the 3.7V6 CX9, which does around 4km/L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    AFAIK the BK Pajero is already unibody as shown in this article Mitsubishi Montero Review - Research New & Used Mitsubishi Montero Models | Edmunds and many others..
    Thanks for the correction. It's the same pala as the LC200 already...

    OT: The problem of the 2.0L Escape is it's powerbank... high rpm. Walang hatak at the low range but if you floor it and drive at the high rpm range, it can still do well. Ubos lang gas mo. Best FC i've ever attained on it was 10km/L flat, highway.

    The 3.8L would have better power-to-weight ratio so this can offset fuel consumption as against a smaller engine if the driver knows how to push the pedal prudently. The CX9 is really known to be a gas guzzler against the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    I believe it'll consume much more like the 3.7V6 CX9, which does around 4km/L.
    It's not that bad. I'm getting better than 5km per liter with 2013 CX9 on 100% city driving within CBD. Around 5.5km per liter actually.
    You might be referring to older model of CX9 (2007-2011).

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    Yeah. Liit 3rd row ng Pajero.

    Then again, a Pajero will still be a Pajero. So Pajero ako. Just make sure it's well maintained.

    Laki difference ng Pajero sa Montero

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    If the Pajero's 3rd row is already cramped, the Montero would be even more cramped due to its smaller size and ladder frame construction.

    Personally, I'm definitely not getting the gas Pajero. I'm not driving a car that drinks around 4km/L on a daily basis. If I were to get a gasoline car, it'll be a high performance sedan or crossover, definitely not a utility vehicle. There's a reason why V6 Pajero's are so cheap, and it definitely isn't because of poor quality.

    What's the budget? Are you only open to these two? With an over 1M budget, there are many upper-class cars in the 2nd hand market that will fit your budget. Perhaps instead of a new GLS-V, you can get a 2012 GTV? 2012 Mitsubishi Montero Sport GTV 2 5 diesel Dual Transmission Philippines - 11982690
    Or a 2012 Santa Fe? 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe AT R-eVGT 4x2 Fully Loaded Philippines - 11345646


    Oh please, the Montero's third row seats are MORE comfortable and MORE spacious than the Pajero's. I'm saying this from EXPERIENCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    Oh please, the Montero's third row seats are MORE comfortable and MORE spacious than the Pajero's. I'm saying this from EXPERIENCE.
    Lol.

    This is another thing I'd have to agree with. When I went to Mitsubishi's showroom and have seen how ridiculous the 3rd row of the Pajero was, I couldn't think how much smaller the Montero's 3rd row seats were. But then when I checked them, I was surprised on how roomier they were than the bigger Pajero.

    I'm not even 6 foot tall and yet I feel so crushed on the Pajero's 3rd row seats. Everything else was absolutely wonderful though. Maybe until it guzzles gas like there's no tomorrow.

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    which one u prepared. new one or 2nd hand??? for me I go sa bago kesa sa pinaglumaan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ano727 View Post
    It's not that bad. I'm getting better than 5km per liter with 2013 CX9 on 100% city driving within CBD. Around 5.5km per liter actually.
    You might be referring to older model of CX9 (2007-2011).
    I think yours is the 4x2 variant? I was referring to the 4x4 version, which should be similar to the also 4x4 V6 Pajero.

    Kudos to you though! I wonder what sort of driving gives you this kind of consumption! How long is your daily commute?

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    Go for brand new, you are at assured of warranty and peace of mind also. A 5 year old vehicle is already out of warranty and you have to be prepared for whatever will need replacement

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