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    Eto nanaman ako tsikoters!

    This time different brands naman...maganda din ang offer ng Mitsu..pero ano sa tingin nyo? pag dating kasi sa engine dept..medyo outdated na ung lancer compared sa vios...also worried about its FC.
    -mas malaki ba ang interior ng lancer compared sa vios?
    -on their FC, malayo ba?
    -please give me some pros and cons on the lancer and vios

    so far eto lang ang alam ko about the two:
    Both have:dual airbags and 4-wheel disc brakes
    Vios has ABS
    Vios has MID
    Vios has side mirror signal lights w/ retract
    Vios ha VVTi on its 1.5liter engine (DOHC 16-valves, 107hp) Lancer (SOHC 16-valves, 110hp)
    Lancer has wider rims and tires
    Lancer has temp guage
    Lancer has rear arm rest w/cup holders

    Lancer GLX 705K SRP
    Vios 1.5G 785K SRP

    thanks!

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    Having sat on both cars, I find the Lancer GLX more spacious. I also find the Lancer more attractive despite its dated looks. However, since you're comparing the 1.5G MT Vios which is undeniably fast, I'd pick it over the Cedia Lancer.

    The 1.3L Vios is very economical, I bet the 1.5G wouldn't be left so much far behind if not even beyond what the 1.3L Vios can get. The 1.6L Cedia Lancer on the other hand, is as far as I've heard, not as economic as the Vios.

    I guess the only advantage would the Lancer have aside from the obvious bigger space, engine bay and luggage compartment is its temperature gauge, because with the Vios when the red light starts blinking it's already too late.

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    id go with the lancer. ampogi nyan palit mags lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymd View Post
    id go with the lancer. ampogi nyan palit mags lang
    as long as match yung design ng mags sa body nung cedia at match yung kulay niya.

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    OT: btw, ano nga bang magandang mags and mags color for a lancer cedia silver, at ok rin ba ito kapag naka-drop? mga gaanong kababa ba ang advisable lowered clearance niya?

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    BTT: nakasakay na ako sa 1.3E Vios, yung mga namamasadang taxi, infairness matulin talaga siya. lalo pang naging matulin kase kaskasero yung drayber, hehehe!!! saka matipid din daw sabi ni manong taxi drayber, on the case of my friend who also own a 2010 1.3E vios, 200php can harness 40+ kms. afaik, may reserve gas on the tank yun. matipid daw talaga,

    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    I guess the only advantage would the Lancer have aside from the obvious bigger space, engine bay and luggage compartment is its temperature gauge, because with the Vios when the red light starts blinking it's already too late.
    pansin ko sir.Renzo, halos parehas lang ng laki ng interior space ng cedia and vios, with konting milimeter difference lang siguro, malaki at mahaba lang talaga ang engine bay at malaki lang ang trunk ng cedia, the only advantage of cedia for me is, it's dashboard, stylish siya para sa akin compared to vios na nasa gitna ang speedometer.

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    Lahat naman ng kotse ok pag naka-drop eh. Depende nalang yan sa springs na pipiliin mo. May 1", 1.5", 1.75", 2", 2.5" at 3" ang ibababa.

    Sa parehong kotse, parang pinaka-swak yung 16s-17s. May Vios akong nakita naka-18s, tapos sagad na drop. Pogi naman. Pero naawa ako sa fuel consumption nun at acceleration -- 1.3J pa naman.

    *zap: Di ko lang alam legroom ng Vios at Cedia sa likod, kasi hindi naman ako sumasakay sa likod eh. It's either nasa driver or passenger seat ako. Siguro nga may difference pero konti palang. Sa showroom ko lang kasi nasubukan yung Cedia Lancer na bago eh. Yung lumang (2004 model) na Lancer pa ang huli ko nasakyan na may pinuntahan talaga.

    Yung Vios, kasasakay ko lang nung Sabado. Binirit nung taxi driver yung Vios niya sa SLEX. Nag-hit agad ng 120kph. Walang kahirap hirap, puno pa. Tapos throughout the trip, mabilis. Nakaka-enganyo nga maging daily beater eh, maski 1.3J lang. Kung may pera lang talaga.

    Maganda naman loob ng 1.5G na Vios, may arte din kahit papano. Pero yung ibang plastics niya, cheap talaga yung feeling. Pero hindi naman natin matatanggal yun. Yung Cedia din naman ganun eh. Pero mas ok nga kung wala sa gitna yung speedometer, kitang kita rin kasi ng pasahero mo kung sobrang bilis ka na eh. Lol.

    *TS: Ayaw mo ng Honda City? Tanong lang naman. O di kaya yung bagong Rio.

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    Actually 1st choice namin ang vios. if may 2nd choice honda city....kia rio and the lancer medyo wala sa list kaya inaalam ko mga pros and cons...for now leaning on the vios 1.5G. by May kme kukuha...sana by then makapag decide na kme......nga pala kung sasagarin namin hanggang Innova J VVTi pwede sana....ano sa tingin nyo?

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    Innova only when you really need the space. And even then, save up nalang for a diesel.

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    haha biglang pasok ng innova... ang layo...

    if i will choose between the two.. sa lancer na ako.. full size yan compared sa vios... isa pa hindi ko type yung nasa gitna yung instrument cluster...

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    Lamang ang Cedia sa front leg room. Rear knee room halos pareho lang. Lamang lang ang Vios sa flat floor. The higher floor of the Vios may be a negative for some pero my mom likes it because it's kinder on her knees.

    Wider ng konti ang Cedia so elbow room is also better. Mas mahirap lang sumimple sa "oops legs mo pala yon dear kala ko kambyo" Sa Vios din sumasabit ulo ko minsan sa door sill. Never had that problem with the Lancer.

    Trunk space goes to Cedia. So does rear view through the glass. Mas malaki ang side mirrors ng Vios pero malaki din blind spot nya sa A-pillar.

    I got used to the center gauges after a few weeks. Wag lang magpanic kung biglang nawala ang ilaw ng gauges sa gabi. Tingin lang konti sa kanan andun lang sya My kids actually like it because they can see the revs and the speedo move. 100kph for them is slow.

    4g92 SOHC non-MIVEC pa rin ba makina ng Cedia? Medyo old school na sya compared to the 1NZ VVTi ng Vios (although the 1NZ/2NZ are not spring chickens either). Vios has electric power steering so one less fluid to check. Timing chain na rin ang Vios so less maintenance in the long run.

    So it all boils down to your priorities. Kung kelangan mo ng space and comfort get the Cedia or consider the Sentra GX. Pero if you need a city driving war car get the Vios.

    Oh and if you plan to use your Vios on the hiway ok sya walang problema. Just hold on tight when passing a bus/truck/wang wang SUV at siguradong mapapakabig ka sa hangin Cant imagine kung anong feeling ng Alto/Picanto/i10/Spark kung nag-overtake ng bus hehe
    Last edited by JohnM; March 20th, 2012 at 10:08 AM.

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    Additional: mas maliit ang turning radius ng Vios. Sa daily route ko kasi may isang part na kelangan mag u-turn dahil nasa kabilang side ang office ni missis. Sa Lancer kung mali ang pasok ko or kung di ko nasagad sa gutter aatras pa ako sa kabila. Sa Vios kahit nasa gitna lang ako ng right lane makaka-uturn pa rin ako at may lugar pa sa kabila. This is on a 3-lane street.

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    Magaling talaga ang mga Toyota engines when it comes to low end torque which is why they have strong acceleration. Also, if I remember correctly the Vios uses electronic throttle already so napaka-sensitive ng accelerator pedal, konting apak takbo agad. Ayaw ko lang talaga sa Vios ay napakasikip sa loob, limited ang headroom and rear seat legroom. At napakabulok ng quality ng interior! Sobrang plasticky ng dashboard and door panels.

    I really like the Cedia Lancer's interior. Can't say the same with the exterior design though, especially the front. I actually prefer the pre-facelift version's more Evo-like design better. The FC of the antiquated 4G18 is pretty questionable, power is not exactly good either.

    I'd suggest you consider the 1.4L Rio. Owners have reported no knocking issues and that the suspension is stiffer than the overly soft Accent. And then it has a 6 speed M/T... All that at 678k, I believe it is a pretty good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    haha biglang pasok ng innova... ang layo...

    if i will choose between the two.. sa lancer na ako.. full size yan compared sa vios... isa pa hindi ko type yung nasa gitna yung instrument cluster...

    * yapoy86: YES you read it right! malayo talaga yan kung magbabase ka lang dun sa title ng thread or kung limited lang sa car ang comparison. kaya nga ako nagtatanong d2 e. we are considering what is the best bang for the buck. as we intend to use it for a long time. Unlike others we dont have the luxury to purchase another vehicle for the next 5 years. So if given a chance since lumakali na ang family mas maganda kung MPV pero since limited lang ang budget, a 5 door sedan would do.

    Please also note that in our case, We are only limited to a loan amount of 792K (car facility). so kung ano ung best deal na makuha namin dun sa limit un sana. Isinama ko ung innova J VVTi considering its price after the discounts

    Salamat sa mga sumagot ng may kabuluhan.

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    The Rio is a good deal. Kung available pa lang 'to when we were shopping for a car we would have seriously considered it. More modern engine and transmission and it looks great. I just don't like the sound the door makes when I slam it

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    The Rio looks good though dko pa cy nakita in metal.....maganda ang specs nya and pricing.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Lamang ang Cedia sa front leg room. Rear knee room halos pareho lang. Lamang lang ang Vios sa flat floor. The higher floor of the Vios may be a negative for some pero my mom likes it because it's kinder on her knees.

    Wider ng konti ang Cedia so elbow room is also better. Mas mahirap lang sumimple sa "oops legs mo pala yon dear kala ko kambyo" Sa Vios din sumasabit ulo ko minsan sa door sill. Never had that problem with the Lancer.

    Trunk space goes to Cedia. So does rear view through the glass. Mas malaki ang side mirrors ng Vios pero malaki din blind spot nya sa A-pillar.

    I got used to the center gauges after a few weeks. Wag lang magpanic kung biglang nawala ang ilaw ng gauges sa gabi. Tingin lang konti sa kanan andun lang sya My kids actually like it because they can see the revs and the speedo move. 100kph for them is slow.

    4g92 SOHC non-MIVEC pa rin ba makina ng Cedia? Medyo old school na sya compared to the 1NZ VVTi ng Vios (although the 1NZ/2NZ are not spring chickens either). Vios has electric power steering so one less fluid to check. Timing chain na rin ang Vios so less maintenance in the long run.

    So it all boils down to your priorities. Kung kelangan mo ng space and comfort get the Cedia or consider the Sentra GX. Pero if you need a city driving war car get the Vios.

    Oh and if you plan to use your Vios on the hiway ok sya walang problema. Just hold on tight when passing a bus/truck/wang wang SUV at siguradong mapapakabig ka sa hangin Cant imagine kung anong feeling ng Alto/Picanto/i10/Spark kung nag-overtake ng bus hehe

    Haven't driven a vios on a hiway. Our current car is a 1992 ee90. d naman gaano affected pag may nag overtake na bus considering na stock ride height with only 185/65/R14 shoes....ibig ba sabihin nito mas stable pa ang ee90 (corolla small body) kesa sa vios on hiways?

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    I drove my brother's AE111 to Subic and it was more stable than the Vios. Stable naman si Vios kung wala kang katabing truck or SUV. I think the tall stance and narrow tires (175/65 R 14 on the E) make it more sensitive to the wind coming off the front and the suction in the back of big vehicles. Feel mo rin ang crosswind (di Isuzu ha). Kala ko nung una wala sa alignment pero napansin ko ang trees sa gilid hangin lang pala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markduguran View Post
    * yapoy86: YES you read it right! malayo talaga yan kung magbabase ka lang dun sa title ng thread or kung limited lang sa car ang comparison. kaya nga ako nagtatanong d2 e. we are considering what is the best bang for the buck. as we intend to use it for a long time. Unlike others we dont have the luxury to purchase another vehicle for the next 5 years. So if given a chance since lumakali na ang family mas maganda kung MPV pero since limited lang ang budget, a 5 door sedan would do.

    Please also note that in our case, We are only limited to a loan amount of 792K (car facility). so kung ano ung best deal na makuha namin dun sa limit un sana. Isinama ko ung innova J VVTi considering its price after the discounts

    Salamat sa mga sumagot ng may kabuluhan.
    BTW, hindi ako nag pasok nung innova...tsaka wala naman yung innova J VVTi sa options eh sa unahan.. back read ka bro...

    since 792K naman pala budget mo... lumalaking pamilya... best bang for the buck... why not look to the new Toyota Avanza.. pasok yang 792 k mo.. tamang tama pang pamilya, pang baha, pang grocery, pang pasyal at kung ano ano pa... pasok din dyan ang mitsubishi adventure GLX same purpose diesel (although jurassic) pa at all power din...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    The Rio is a good deal. Kung available pa lang 'to when we were shopping for a car we would have seriously considered it. More modern engine and transmission and it looks great. I just don't like the sound the door makes when I slam it
    iba talaga sumara ang mga korean vehicles.. lapat na lapat yung pinto... you don't need to slam the door to close it.. just a gentle push and it will close gently... nasanay kasi sa ibang kotse na kailangan i-balibag yung pinto para sumara...

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    Di naman balibag. Normal close lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    BTW, hindi ako nag pasok nung innova...tsaka wala naman yung innova J VVTi sa options eh sa unahan.. back read ka bro...

    since 792K naman pala budget mo... lumalaking pamilya... best bang for the buck... why not look to the new Toyota Avanza.. pasok yang 792 k mo.. tamang tama pang pamilya, pang baha, pang grocery, pang pasyal at kung ano ano pa... pasok din dyan ang mitsubishi adventure GLX same purpose diesel (although jurassic) pa at all power din...

    Ako bro ang nagsabi na isa sa options namin ang innova J VVTi. re: avanza d yata cy ganun ka tipid pagdating sa FC as per actual users observation. halos mag pantay sila ng 2.0 vvti ng innova sa FC (please correct me kung mali).

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