Mazda CX-5 or Toyota RAV4

[Albastru]

Hi Guys,

Just want to know your thoughts between the base models of Mazda CX-5 (2012) and Toyota RAV4 (2013). I know they have almost the same base model pricing so what are the advantages and disadvantages of each especially on the categories below. If there are factors that should be put in there please advise. Thanks.

1. Safety
2. Fuel consumption
3. Handling
4. Ride comfort (driver and passenger)
5. Maintenance cost
6. Add-ons (rear-view cam, bigger wheels, etc.)
7. Reliability
8. Looks

[speed_kills]

Between the base variants...

1. Safety - probably similar
2. Fuel consumption - CX5
3. Handling - CX5 has won many international car reviews but the local RAV4 has a more powerful engine (2.0L vs 2.5L)
4. Ride comfort (driver and passenger) - similar
5. Maintenance cost - CX5, due to 3 year "free" maintenance (free labor plus select parts like oils & filters)
6. Add-ons (rear-view cam, bigger wheels, etc.) - CX5, leather steering wheel, touch screen entertainment system with Bluetooth, foglamps, cruise control, auto climate control, etc
7. Reliability - probably similar as both are made in Japan
8. Looks - subjective

With big discounts on the 2.0L and better payment options, CX-5 pricing might be slightly better than RAV4's.

Then considering the extra options, "free" maintenance plan, and gas money saved, the CX5 overall ownership experience may offset the RAV4's higher resale value.

[EQAddict]

good luck with the waiting list for a RAV 4..... its very long!

[Battlestar]

good luck with the waiting list for a RAV 4..... its very long!

Very true. Maganda ba sales nito sa ibang bansa kaya bihira dumating? Sabi ng iba 1-2 units per dealer lang daw ang binibigyan for now.

[niky]

1. Safety - CX5 (based on crash tests)
2. Fuel consumption - CX5
3. Handling - CX5
4. Ride comfort (driver and passenger) - CX5 (more supple suspension
5. Maintenance cost - Draw. Both all-new... Toyota 2.5 is also an all-new engine. We'll know more down the line. Yes... there are more Toyota suppliers, but not all of them carry parts for more expensive Toyota cars like the RAV4 and Camry.
6. Add-ons (rear-view cam, bigger wheels, etc.) - CX5
7. Reliability - Nobody knows.
8. Looks - RAV4.

[Albastru]

Thanks sir speed_kills and sir niky for the inputs. Thanks na rin sir EQAddict for the heads up. Looks like CX-5 wins.

Para sa mga nakapagcheck lately, magkano ung discount na inooffer ng Mazda for base model CX-5? Want to know na rin if pwede magpa upgrade ng 19" wheels from 17" on stock and magpakabit ng rear-view cam sa base model and magkano aabutin? Thanks.

[niky]

Might as well just get that outside the dealership. Would be cheaper.

Also, 19" wheels will make the ride worse over bumpy roads.

[JohnM]

Try test driving the MT CX5 at least if you're going base model. Tranny, presyo and available colors lang ang difference between the AT and the MT 2.0

Check the CX5 thread for accessories. May nakapagpakabit na ng rear view although AFAIK separate monitor ginamit nila. Based on US forums pwede naman daw lagyan ng video input ang stock HU pero wala pang balita kung may ganto nang setup sa atin.

[germs]

Thanks sir speed_kills and sir niky for the inputs. Thanks na rin sir EQAddict for the heads up. Looks like CX-5 wins.

Para sa mga nakapagcheck lately, magkano ung discount na inooffer ng Mazda for base model CX-5? Want to know na rin if pwede magpa upgrade ng 19" wheels from 17" on stock and magpakabit ng rear-view cam sa base model and magkano aabutin? Thanks.

If you really want to upgrade to the OEM 19" wheels found on the AWD Variant, I think it's around 22k per wheel from the Casa.

[speed_kills]

Para sa mga nakapagcheck lately, magkano ung discount na inooffer ng Mazda for base model CX-5?

I think some dealers can give 70k off on the CX-5 2.0L.

You also get to choose how to pay unlike the RAV4 as you may need to avail a dealer's in-house financing to get priority and practically spend at least 50-100k over retail.

[Albastru]

sir niky - Thanks for the tip on the 19" wheels. Appreciate it. Hindi ba mavovoid ung warranty pag nagpakabit ng backing up camera outside the dealership?
sir JohnM - researched and saw the backing camera but worry ko lang is baka ma void ung warranty. Isa pa baka walang nagkakabit ng ganyan sa Iloilo.
sir (or kuya) germs - aray, ang sakit nung price. OK, solid na ako sa 17" stock wheels. Mukhang maganda naman ung alloy rims nun eh.
sir speed_kills - appreciate the info. Try ko mag haggle sa local dealership pag-uwi ko, knowing na kaya pala hanggang 70K discount. :-)

[JohnM]

sir JohnM - researched and saw the backing camera but worry ko lang is baka ma void ung warranty. Isa pa baka walang nagkakabit ng ganyan sa Iloilo.

Pareho tayo ng problema since the closest casa sa amin is CDO. Dad talked to the casa na and they're willing to install a cam as long as plug and play lang.

[Albastru]

Sir JohnM, meron na kayong nakuha na backing camera na plug and play lang? Musta naman po ung performance ng CX-5 nyo?

[JohnM]

Sir JohnM, meron na kayong nakuha na backing camera na plug and play lang? Musta naman po ung performance ng CX-5 nyo?

Wala pa sir. Bibili kami as soon as may nakapag-pakabit na ng camera sa stock HU.

Performance? 1000kms agad ang takbo wala pang 1 week. 10,000 kms checkup after 6 months. Hataw mode on provincial hiways and 14kpl ang consumption using Nitro+. Siguradong tulog ang pasahero even when cornering at slightly insane speeds. And di ako ang may-ari nyan. The CX5 is owned and driven hard by my parents who are certified senior citizens They found out early na the engine is not happy shifting below 2200rpm so lately normal na daw sa kanila to shift at 3000 or 4000 rpm when overtaking. Brakes are also very good and on panic stops (jaywalking carabao) dikit sa front seat backs ang rear passengers kung di nila suot ang kanilang seatbelts.

Space-wise naka-dekwatro na ang front passenger and the passenger behind. Max of four lang usually sila for long drives dahil wala nang support ang rear center passenger especially with their driving style.

Di naman siguro obvious na tuwang-tuwa sila sa CX5 no. Not bad considering that our recent cars before this were all Toyotas

[Albastru]

Mukha ngang di sila nag eenjoy. Ahahaha... MT po ba or AT? So ung mga PMS as in wala talagang nilabas na pera ung parents mo? Taken care of nung Yojin program nila? Senior citizens din mainly ung gagamit nung bibilhin kong CX-5 pag nagkataon eh, 2-3km na provincial road (non-concrete) tapos highway na agad to destination so mukhang OK nga 'tong CX-5. Any add-ons na recommended nyo based on the stock unit?

[Ponkan]

mas nagagandahan ako sa porma ng CX5 kaysa Rav4 bilis ko magsawa sa looks ng Rav4 kahit kokonti palang sa daan

[JohnM]

MT. Baka last MT na nila daw 'to. AT na ang next. As good as the Skyactiv MT is tumatanda na rin sila at namamanhid na mga tuhod sa long drive. Malamang paglabas ng Skyactiv-D We were pleasantly surprised to discover na may hill start assist si MT. Di bibitaw agad ang brakes kung hanging kaya di ka aatras (or aabente) paglipat ng paa from brake to gas.

Sakto lang ride height for them. Truck-based SUVs are too high. Cars naman are too low for old knees and backs.

Add-ons so far camera lang and pedals ang nasa listahan. Naka-Weathertech na pala front and rear mats nya. Otherwise la na sila hinahanap.

No cash out sa PMS. Spark plugs pala are good for 100,000 kms.

[Albastru]

Thanks sir JohnM sa tips and infos. Hmmm, mukhang AT na yata kukunin ko pag ganyan ang feedback. May rayuma pa naman tatay ko. Hehehe.

[SyniTh]

The current rav 4 looks like an avanza for me. I dont know if its just me. I like the previous one in terms of looks. The CX 5 looks fresher for me.


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[germs]

Mukha ngang di sila nag eenjoy. Ahahaha... MT po ba or AT? So ung mga PMS as in wala talagang nilabas na pera ung parents mo? Taken care of nung Yojin program nila? Senior citizens din mainly ung gagamit nung bibilhin kong CX-5 pag nagkataon eh, 2-3km na provincial road (non-concrete) tapos highway na agad to destination so mukhang OK nga 'tong CX-5. Any add-ons na recommended nyo based on the stock unit?

Sir Albastru, since may non-concrete roads ka pala na dadaanan, better to stick talaga to the stock 17's.