AUV/Manual transmission: Mitsubishi GLX SE or Isuzu Crosswind XT (brand new)

[rey7tiam]

surs, i need your inputs on these two models. hindi ko na sinama ang innova dahil hindi pasok sa budget.

Thank you for your time.

1. mas fuel efficient?, daily driven 72 kms daily kasi though may monthly gas allowance
2. alin ang mas matibay ang suspension?
3. in the long run anong mas magtatagal? (baka 10 years ko gagamitin)
4. steering system (sumakit na ulo ko dati sa rack & pinion- rack and pinion ata GLX se may issue po ba?)
5. cargo space? for week end out of town and usual na dinadalang gamit ng anak ko
6. interior (mukhang bare ang XT)
7. fuel deliver ( alin mas ok sa dalawa, parehas ba?)
8. cold starting (DI yung XT I assume mas quick, yung GLX kaya?)

please share your inputs on the pros and cons factors na rin Sirs..
first hand information/experience po sana.. salamat

[dct]

mas ok yung crosswind. FC, mas matibay ang suspension, yung iba halos same na lang sila nyan

[rey7tiam]

^thank you sir dct

More inputs sirs..

[lui]

surs, i need your inputs on these two models. hindi ko na sinama ang innova dahil hindi pasok sa budget.

Thank you for your time.

1. mas fuel efficient?, daily driven 72 kms daily kasi though may monthly gas allowance
crosswind

2. alin ang mas matibay ang suspension?
almost same
3. in the long run anong mas magtatagal? (baka 10 years ko gagamitin)
almost same. advantage cguro advnturedahil mas madame makina na surplus?
4. steering system (sumakit na ulo ko dati sa rack & pinion- rack and pinion ata GLX se may issue po ba?)
wla sila defect pareho
5. cargo space? for week end out of town and usual na dinadalang gamit ng anak ko
mas maluwag xwind
6. interior (mukhang bare ang XT)
not sure sa xwind. sa adventure decent nman
7. fuel deliver ( alin mas ok sa dalawa, parehas ba?)
d.i. anf xwind tapos naka turbo pa.
8. cold starting (DI yung XT I assume mas quick, yung GLX kaya?)
madali lang nman i heater adventure la pa 4 sec.
please share your inputs on the pros and cons factors na rin Sirs..
first hand information/experience po sana.. salamat

overall sir mas maganda tlaga xwind xt. ang nakikita ko lang advantage ng adventure is price and hindi sa maingay at ma vibrate sa loob compared to croswind. both are super tibay auv...

[jrn29]

mas tipid ang FC ng crosswind kumpara sa adventure.
kung sa patagalan naman same lang yung dalawa na yan na matibay ;)

peru sa mga inputs mo panalo ang crosswind , medyu maingay at mausok nga lang ito comapre sa adventure , Imo
peru kahit anu piliin mo sa dalawa panalo kaya diyan

[Horsepower]

Aantukin ka sa bagal ng 2 ito. It will take a LOT of time before it reaches 100kmh then it will stop accelerating at around 110kmh.

If I were you, since kasama mo ang anak mo, you'd need something safe (not these two). Get a 2nd hand KIA Carnival LWB (or SWB) CRDI. Mga 2009+ kasyang-kasya na sa budget. Just beware of flooded units. Practice due diligence. It's far far safer and comfortable.

[rey7tiam]

*horsepower - sir, your post duly noted. Check ko kung kaya pa stretch ang budget. Hanggat maaari ayoko na ng 2nd hand lalo na pagka di kilala ang owner..

[GTi]

Magkano ba ang budget bro? Pati ba maintenance sagot ng kumpanya?

72kms daily commute, I assume sa layo niyan mostly highway yan? 2nd hand (mga 2011 units) na Innova nalang kunin mo, around 800+k ang benta ngayon. Hindi nagkakalayo ang konsumo nito sa Crosswind. Sa maintenance lang nagkakatalo dahil modern D4D na ito. Mas maganda ang takbo sa highway, hindi kasin-ingay ng Crosswind, at lesser tendency din na umusok. Matibay na sasakyan naman ito, both in terms of pang-ilalim at makina. Kayang kaya ang lubak at baha. May ilan kaming relatives and friends with this car, and they've got nothing but praises for it. Yung isa nga eh lampas 100tkms na ang tinakbo. Mayaman sila ah, at may iba iba pang kotse sa garahe pero ayaw parin niya to ibenta, daily driver niya parin at kundisyon na kundisyon ang makina.

Kung itong dalawa lang talaga, Crosswind na. Mas matipid ito sa dalawa, at mas mataas resale value in the long run. Hindi naman problema ang bare interior, madali lang naman ayusin yan.

[Bin Diesel]

*horsepower - sir, your post duly noted. Check ko kung kaya pa stretch ang budget. Hanggat maaari ayoko na ng 2nd hand lalo na pagka di kilala ang owner..

Wag ka na mag 2nd hand kung kaya mo naman ang brand new.

I suggest the Adventure SE laki ng difference sa katahimikan at nginig ng makina. Ito yung may DVD and GPS na din diba? Kaso walang rear wiper.

[Retz]

You could never go wrong with either vehicles.

[jvnj]

Sir rey7tiam,

Both are good, durable and reliable vehicles. Pros of the XT: Direct injection (no need of heater during start-ups, plus no need to replace coz it doesn't have any glow plugs), Timing Gear (More durable and worry free than belt driven shafts), a little bit wider body than the GLX (load capacity and stance advantage). Cons: Emits more smoke, engine vibrates too much (para kang nasa massage chair he he!). Pros of the GLX SE: Feels more powerful and faster due to Timing belt engine and smaller body, Engine is much smoother and quieter (feels more comfortable), 2nd row A/C vents placed much better than the XT. Cons: Timing Belt.

For business use, I prefer the XT. For family or personal use I suggest the GLX SE.

[rey7tiam]

*sir GTi- sir sagad na ang 890K. Fuel lang sagot ng company kaya worry ko maintenance kung innova. Nasanay na ako sa maintenance ng corolla na efi-medyo mura-mura

*horse power-sir di ako matulin magpatakbo kasi matraffic sa edsa, cavite at pasig

*bin diesel-tama kayo ayoko sana ng 2nd hand, dami pa rin papalitan kung sakali


Yung nginig ba ng xt sirs abot hanggang steering wheel?

Salamat sirs sa inputs..

[dct]

di ba may standard discounts pa ang mitsu? baka pumasok sa GLS sport SE.

tama sila. kung tao ang isasakay mo, adventure. kung gamit ang isasakay, crosswind

[GTi]

*sir GTi- sir sagad na ang 890K. Fuel lang sagot ng company kaya worry ko maintenance kung innova. Nasanay na ako sa maintenance ng corolla na efi-medyo mura-mura

Yung nginig ba ng xt sirs abot hanggang steering wheel?

Kung galing ka sa EFI Corolla, maninibago ka sa kupad netong dalawa!

Ang Adventure mas maganda ang takbo sa rektahan, yung Crosswind naman sa arangkada. So mas mataas top speed ng Adventure, pero mas malakas low-end torque ng Crosswind. Dahil din dito mas mahina ang Adventure sa akyatan kesa sa Crosswind, which is why you see many diesel Revo's and Crosswind's as cabs in Baguio but little to no Adventure's.

Kapag ramdam na ramdam yung vibration sa manibela, siguro yun ay napaka cold start talaga o kaya sobrang mababa ang idling rpm. Yung vibration naman ng old school diesel pwedeng mabawasan kung nakapag-warm-up ang sasakyan. Mas lalo ring magiging refined ang takbo ng makina neto kung pinatakbo mo ng mabilis for some time (say 70km/h and above). Malaki talaga ang diprensya kapag ginawa mo to, at the end of the day halos parang modern diesel na ang smoothness ng makina mo.

Sa loob naman, para sa akin mas maganda ang interior design ng Adventure. Mas civilized ang dating. As mentioned, mas OK din ang placement ng rear air vents niya. Yun nga lang mas masikip ang loob nito lalo na sa 3rd row. Ang Crosswind truck na truck talaga. Hazard light switch nasa steering column, pull and twist handbrake, FX type rear air vents... Pero mas malaki siya.

[OTEP]

Yung brown interior ng crosswind is a huge pain in my behind to keep clean. Sumuko na din yung kabarkada ko. Now ang dumi na, the dark inerior colors in the older models were better. Maybe isuzu is trying to look more upmarket,

[GTi]

Ginaya nila sana ang Innova and kept the beige to high end variants only... Beige and utility spell disaster.

[AKI125]

Honestly speaking im having issues with the adventure i bought recently. Its mainly on the PMS side, masyadong madugo yun price ng DCT. Im spending an averaging 5-6k per PMS. Another issue is their so called warranty claims which i find it wierd, first time i heard of car batteries with 20k odometer reading warranty coverage.

On the good side, its fun to drive and also as a passenger of this vehicle. Slow poke though, avegaging 9-10 km/ liter for pure city driving with load. Being use on a daily basis for my company as delivery unit. Got a GLS sport. If kunti lang difference ng price of the GLX and GLS, try getting the higher model

[marq]

Yung brown interior ng crosswind is a huge pain in my behind to keep clean. Sumuko na din yung kabarkada ko. Now ang dumi na, the dark inerior colors in the older models were better. Maybe isuzu is trying to look more upmarket,

sinabi mo pa! correct ka dyan sir.

[rey7tiam]

Ano bang frequency (km in odometer/months) ng PMS? kindly indicate po sana yung corresponding costs.
sample:
1,500 KM -estimate cost
5,000 KM-estimate cost
~
wala kasi akong idea kung ano yung specified odometer reading pag nagpa PMS paki correct na lang. Oto ko kasi pinaglumaan so 1st time ko to mag-acquire ng brand new

[GTi]

Honestly speaking im having issues with the adventure i bought recently. Its mainly on the PMS side, masyadong madugo yun price ng DCT. Im spending an averaging 5-6k per PMS. Another issue is their so called warranty claims which i find it wierd, first time i heard of car batteries with 20k odometer reading warranty coverage.

On the good side, its fun to drive and also as a passenger of this vehicle. Slow poke though, avegaging 9-10 km/ liter for pure city driving with load. Being use on a daily basis for my company as delivery unit. Got a GLS sport. If kunti lang difference ng price of the GLX and GLS, try getting the higher model

Grabe naman yan bro! Ano yung mga ginawa sa isang PMS? Just motor oil and filter change couldn't possibly be that expensive... Kung CRDi yan maiintindihan pa eh.