Battle of the New 2017/18 Crossovers

[StockEngine]

All New Generation(early 2017)

2017 Jeep Compass
2017 Honda CRV
2017 Chevrolet Equinox

To be announced New Generations(late 2017)

2017 Subaru Forester
2017 Ford Escape
2017 Toyota RAV4

Refreshed Models

2017 Nissan Xtrail/Rogue (no turbo)
2017 Mazda CX5(no turbo)

Recent All new models

2017 Kia Sportage
2017 Hyundai Tucson

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[StockEngine]

I wonder if the (yet to be announced)new Rav4 will finally take over the CRV in the US market.



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[glenn manikis]

I wonder if the (yet to be announced)new Rav4 will finally take over the CRV in the US market.



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I find the Ford explorer... a cut Above the rest... overall.... except on FC... but still it's one of the most economical gas powered CUV or SUV...
Others will pale in comparison.
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[candyman]

I find the Ford explorer... a cut Above the rest... overall.... except on FC... but still it's one of the most economical gas powered CUV or SUV...
Others will pale in comparison.
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interesting to note that the rav4 and the xtrail (rogue) and even the escape round up the top 5 in the US but are rarely seen on the roads here. While our top seller - the forester is not even in the top 5.

[CoolHand]

All New Generation(early 2017)

2017 Jeep Compass
2017 Honda CRV
2017 Chevrolet Equinox

To be announced New Generations(late 2017)

2017 Subaru Forester
2017 Ford Escape
2017 Toyota RAV4

Refreshed Models

2017 Nissan Xtrail/Rogue (no turbo)
2017 Mazda CX5(no turbo)

Recent All new models

2017 Kia Sportage
2017 Hyundai Tucson

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[Egan101]

interesting to note that the rav4 and the xtrail (rogue) and even the escape round up the top 5 in the US but are rarely seen on the roads here. While our top seller - the forester is not even in the top 5.

The Forester has a solid customer base in states where snow is expected like the Northeast and Midwest. However, its sales cannot keep up with the volume of CRVs or RAV4s or Rogues sold across the rest of the states.

The CX5 and Forester may top the list of reviews by car enthusiasts but such accolades don't equate to sales volume. The same goes for compact and midsize cars where the low-rated Camry and Corolla dominate the market.

[StockEngine]

The Forester has a solid customer base in states where snow is expected like the Northeast and Midwest. However, its sales cannot keep up with the volume of CRVs or RAV4s or Rogues sold across the rest of the states.

The CX5 and Forester may top the list of reviews by car enthusiasts but such accolades don't equate to sales volume. The same goes for compact and midsize cars where the low-rated Camry and Corolla dominate the market.

Here is the cuv sales in canada. The new forester needs to arrive soon. Their new sedan is just announced.



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[sientobente]

Parang ang bilis ng turnover ng mga models. Instead of the usual 5-year span, 4 years nalang.

[StockEngine]

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[Investor6161]

This show how underrated Nissan here in ph.

I wonder if the (yet to be announced)new Rav4 will finally take over the CRV in the US market.



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[Wh1stl3r2]

^
Shows the effect of past years of neglect under Yulon. They just haven't sold cars that appeal to the local market. Most people here don't even know Nissan is the 2nd biggest Japanese car company after Toyota. After Nissan-Renault's takeover of Mitsubishi, combined they are the 3rd biggest global auto group after Toyota and Volkswagen group.

[pjcunom]

Surabu xv wala pa din? Planning to buy pero may lalabas daw 2018 new model. Current model or hintayin na lang muna?

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[MR_BIG18]

Surabu xv wala pa din? Planning to buy pero may lalabas daw 2018 new model. Current model or hintayin na lang muna?

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2019 nila yan lalabas if thats the case, 2018 will be introduced sa motorshow, not the showrooms

[pjcunom]

Every ilang years po ba naglalabas ng bagong model ang subaru xV?

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[Walter]

SUV / crossover life cycle is about 5-6 years ... compared to sedans at 4-5 years ... except for premium brands like BMW, Mercedes, etc. which have longer cycle of 7-8 years ... but lately the cycles are getting shorter because of stiff competition ...

[MR_BIG18]

SUV / crossover life cycle is about 5-6 years ... compared to sedans at 4-5 years ... except for premium brands like BMW, Mercedes, etc. which have longer cycle of 7-8 years ... but lately the cycles are getting shorter because of stiff competition ...

in 2 years, we might be getting a new SUV again, maybe a montero or a fortuner, basta with bigger tires this time, road imperfections here in paranaque are getting worse....

[Wh1stl3r2]

*pjcunom
I'd also consider the Forester premium 2.0. Priced just a little higher than the NP300 4x4 VL. I'd get the pickup if I needed the open bed and drove in more open provincial roads. In the city crossovers like the Forester are much easier to use. Compared to the Forester the XV has a lot less boot space and legroom.

[pjcunom]

*pjcunom
I'd also consider the Forester premium 2.0. Priced just a little higher than the NP300 4x4 VL. I'd get the pickup if I needed the open bed and drove in more open provincial roads. In the city crossovers like the Forester are much easier to use. Compared to the Forester the XV has a lot less boot space and legroom.

Thanks.. probably I'll get the pick-up. Your right I'll be using it mostly in Province only. Also I have problem in mind my wife's parents house is in steep mountain foot probably we will experience difficulty maneuvering a pick up truck in that place. Here are some pro and cons I think about.

Navara np300 4x4 VL a/t :
Pro:
1.cargo bed, can carry lots of stuff during family outing.
2. Good ride in poor road condition
3. Cheaper maintenance
4. Parts availability.
5. More safe during floods
6. More powerful engine
7. Faster acceleration than XV?
8. Offroad capability
9. Fuel cost and consumption.
Cons:
1. Rear seats cant be adjusted.
2. Difficulty maneuverability in tight roads
3. Will be hard for female driver?
4. Bare features for 1.5m price

Subaru XV 2.0 premium
Pro:
1. Maneuverability in tight roads
2. Easy for female driver (5'6 height)
3. Good in cornering
4. More premium feeling * 1.5m
Cons:
1. Parts availability
2. Maintenance cost
3. Less cargo space
4. Cant be use for family outing.
5. Offroad capability.
6. Fuel cost and consumption

This is base on my opinion please feel free to add more so I will be enlighten.
I like subaru XV but I dont know if CVT acceleration is good and less pro on it. [emoji27]


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[MR_BIG18]

Thanks.. probably I'll get the pick-up. Your right I'll be using it mostly in Province only. Also I have problem in mind my wife's parents house is in steep mountain foot probably we will experience difficulty maneuvering a pick up truck in that place. Here are some pro and cons I think about.

Navara np300 4x4 VL a/t :
Pro:
1.cargo bed, can carry lots of stuff during family outing.
2. Good ride in poor road condition
3. Cheaper maintenance
4. Parts availability.
5. More safe during floods
6. More powerful engine
7. Faster acceleration than XV?
8. Offroad capability
9. Fuel cost and consumption.
Cons:
1. Rear seats cant be adjusted.
2. Difficulty maneuverability in tight roads
3. Will be hard for female driver?
4. Bare features for 1.5m price

Subaru XV 2.0 premium
Pro:
1. Maneuverability in tight roads
2. Easy for female driver (5'6 height)
3. Good in cornering
4. More premium feeling * 1.5m
Cons:
1. Parts availability
2. Maintenance cost
3. Less cargo space
4. Cant be use for family outing.
5. Offroad capability.
6. Fuel cost and consumption

This is base on my opinion please feel free to add more so I will be enlighten.
I like subaru XV but I dont know if CVT acceleration is good and less pro on it. [emoji27]


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acceleration? almost the same....coz of the power to weight ratio

[jut703]

Thanks.. probably I'll get the pick-up. Your right I'll be using it mostly in Province only. Also I have problem in mind my wife's parents house is in steep mountain foot probably we will experience difficulty maneuvering a pick up truck in that place. Here are some pro and cons I think about.

Navara np300 4x4 VL a/t :
Pro:
1.cargo bed, can carry lots of stuff during family outing.
2. Good ride in poor road condition
3. Cheaper maintenance
4. Parts availability.
5. More safe during floods
6. More powerful engine
7. Faster acceleration than XV?
8. Offroad capability
9. Fuel cost and consumption.
Cons:
1. Rear seats cant be adjusted.
2. Difficulty maneuverability in tight roads
3. Will be hard for female driver?
4. Bare features for 1.5m price

Subaru XV 2.0 premium
Pro:
1. Maneuverability in tight roads
2. Easy for female driver (5'6 height)
3. Good in cornering
4. More premium feeling * 1.5m
Cons:
1. Parts availability
2. Maintenance cost
3. Less cargo space
4. Cant be use for family outing.
5. Offroad capability.
6. Fuel cost and consumption

This is base on my opinion please feel free to add more so I will be enlighten.
I like subaru XV but I dont know if CVT acceleration is good and less pro on it. [emoji27]


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I had a pickup (Ranger) which I used in the province a lot. It was good in the province but when I brought it back to Manila it was a hassle to drive. Large turning radius thanks to a cargo bed that I rarely used anyway.

In terms of difficulty driving, one of my friends was given a Navara by her brother. She hates every bit of it because it's so hard to park.

Ride quality is also awful. Even the Navara, which is the most comfortable pickup in the market, won't stand a chance against the XV or any CUV for that matter. Yes, ride quality on awful roads is relatively better because you hardly feel the severe potholes, but when you get to flat paved ground, every small road imperfection is felt in the cabin, whereas a CUV would just absorb it.

Flood fording - how frequently will you go through deep floods anyway? Even a small CUV like the XV can handle the usual gutter deep floods, and anything higher I would usually advise to just reroute unless it's an emergency.

Power is roughly the same. While the Navara has much more low-end torque that buries you in your seat, the end effect is that the XV will still get to 100 kph at roughly the same time (11-ish seconds) since the latter has much more top-end power because it's gas fed.

My suggestion? Forester 2.0i Premium. Has all the goodies of the XV, plus much more space, and better looks IMO.

I would only get a pickup if I would use the bed regularly. Otherwise, I'd get a PPV if I wanted to maximize the pickup's ruggedness. The Everest Trend and MUX 3.0 fits your budget. Though of course neither of the two are as comfortable as the Forester. And the MUX feels very cheap inside.


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