2016 Toyota Fortuner V 4x4 2.8L vs 2016 Isuzu MU-X LS-A 4x4 3.0L

[PATSYS]

Hi guys,

I am now looking for a new SUV and it boils down to either Fortuner or MU-X.

I am aware that the Fortuner is more expensive but aside from the price, what are the advantages/disadvantages of one over the other?

Thanks

[ice15]

This should help...

http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/f...20160520-lfrm3

[vinj]

Engine response, NVH levels and brake feel favors the Fortuner based on my brief drives of both vehicles. The MUX is hard to discount based on pricing though.

[Walter]

^^^ Always remember, most of the time, you get what you pay for ...

[Sleepcare]

Engine response, NVH levels and brake feel favors the Fortuner based on my brief drives of both vehicles. The MUX is hard to discount based on pricing though.

+1 for the comment above. Much more premium-looking than the MU-X.

On the other note, I feel that the MU-X is more spacious than the Fortuner for both legroom and headroom. Also, I must say that I really love the low-down torque of the 4JJ1 motor.

Personally, you won't go wrong with either. Truly, you'll get what you pay for.

[Janemar]

+1 for the comment above. Much more premium-looking than the MU-X.

On the other note, I feel that the MU-X is more spacious than the Fortuner for both legroom and headroom. Also, I must say that I really love the low-down torque of the 4JJ1 motor.

Personally, you won't go wrong with either. Truly, you'll get what you pay for.

If "for keeps" auto, go with MuX.

If you'll sell it 5-10years from now, fortuner.

If features, fortuner. Space/headroom/leg room is not a factor if you dont have a family member who is higher than 5'10" in height.

[PATSYS]

If "for keeps" auto, go with MuX.

If you'll sell it 5-10years from now, fortuner.

If features, fortuner. Space/headroom/leg room is not a factor if you dont have a family member who is higher than 5'10" in height.

Hi,

Why do you think the MU-x more "for keeps" than the Fortuner?

Timing chain na rin yata ang Fortuner...

[PATSYS]

+1 for the comment above. Much more premium-looking than the MU-X.

On the other note, I feel that the MU-X is more spacious than the Fortuner for both legroom and headroom. Also, I must say that I really love the low-down torque of the 4JJ1 motor.

Personally, you won't go wrong with either. Truly, you'll get what you pay for.

Not sure I understand this part:

"I really love the low-down torque of the 4JJ1 motor"

Care to elaborate this part? Thanks

[Sleepcare]

Not sure I understand this part:

"I really love the low-down torque of the 4JJ1 motor"

Care to elaborate this part? Thanks

Sorry, what I meant was you do not need to rev the motor much to get the vehicle moving from stand-still. This is evident for city driving and out of town trips wherein you'll encounter steep hills especially if the vehicle is loaded.

[PATSYS]

This should help...

http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/f...20160520-lfrm3

Thanks Man, that article was good input.

[markkevin]

Mux kana, balance lang lahat. Haha
May looks at pang matagalan.

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[hpv]

Mu-x dahil matibay,matipid,malakas,maporma at mas mura. Di ka talaga lugi at magsisisi.

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[torque&pepper]

Mu-X dahil value for money. Ang laki ng Fort pero pag nasa loob ka na parang mas maluwag pa yung Mux. Don't worry about hard plastics...they won't deteriorate under our harsh tropical sun. This is purely subjective but I like the subtle looks of the Mux over the Fort na parang nakakasawa. As to power and speed, parehong ayos naman sila. You wouldn't and shouldn't use it for racing anyway.

[GTi]

^Cost cutting probably? Their prices are high enough as it is. But then the motoring journalists swear that the braking performance is no poorer.

Between the two, I'd go for the MUX. Resale value should be no less than the Fortuner's considering the high resale value of the Alterra's in the 2nd hand market. The 4JJ1 is a veteran engine. Kinks are already ironed out at this point and mechanics are very familiar with it. Parts should not be a problem, even more so since it shares many of them with the Trailblazer. Then there is the fact that the 4JJ1 is in a very low state of tune... Very simple mods would yield tremendous power gains...

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[jut703]

The Fortuner is the second most expensive locally available car with rear drum brakes (the most expensive is the Hiace Grandia LXV but noone's bashing that one). It's a pity, yes. But in the grand scheme of things, is it a dealbreaker?

Save for the handful of people whining online about the drum brakes of the Fortuner, most buyers won't even care. Even if Toyota puts 4-wheel discs, sales of the Fortuner won't exponentially increase.

More people care about a car's looks, its reliability, its ride quality, its comfort, its engine, its resale value, than whether it has discs or drums at the rear.

I'm not saying drums are better than discs, of course not. As has been pointed out, drums are harder to clean. They are also more prone to brake fade, though rear brakes rarely fade even in downhill driving with a full load because much of the braking still falls to the front discs. But for the most part, rear drums do their main job of stopping a car as well as rear discs would.


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[GTi]

Having driven both a 2012 IPV (disc/drum) and a 2011 Carnival (disc/disc w/ABS), I have to say that the IPV brakes better despite the fact that the Carnival had new brake pads on all fours and new tires too. Somehow the Carnival was just too heavy for the brakes to more confidently stop the car. I have to say that the IPV (or probably D-Max in extension) is the best braking disc/drum car without ABS that I've driven so far.

The only thing I hate about drums is the servicing. Takes a lot of time and ear-splitting hammering to open it up, and longer still to service the shoes and springs inside.

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[Vensong Quezon]

Mas ok ang drum brakes!
Pero kung ginawang all disk brakes ang Fort gaya sa Australia.
Mas ok ang disk brakes!
wag na makipagtalo alam naman na kasi eh.

[ClaNker]

Mas ok ang drum brakes!
Pero kung ginawang all disk brakes ang Fort gaya sa Australia.
Mas ok ang disk brakes!
wag na makipagtalo alam naman na kasi eh.

Toyota for life!

*PATSYS If you have money to burn the go for the fortuner but I highly recommend that hold your purchase until they have resolved the issue with their AT. That is if you're getting one that comes with AT.

[maverick74]

Toyota for life!

*PATSYS If you have money to burn the go for the fortuner but I highly recommend that hold your purchase until they have resolved the issue with their AT. That is if you're getting one that comes with AT.

Ito yung choices for the past 2 weeks para sa aking wife na SUV. comparing both sa mga features and nag settle na kmi sa mux dahil sa basic na rear sensor at camera para ma at ease na cya.

[ferrarifan]

what most of us do agree with is that all-disc brakes is better than disc/drum combination, all things being equal.

it's a pity some people here are comparing stopping power of different vehicles concluding that disc/drum set-up is better when the car is much lighter than the one with all-disc set-up.

nobody's whining about certain more expensive models of the same brand having disc/drum because they're not as popular as these PPV SUVs. who cares about them, i don't even own one.

but it's a different story when it comes to PPV SUVs, it being the most hotly-contested segment in the country today, it is scrutinized by buyers up to the last detail. and every part can be a deal breaker to anyone.

is the Fort not having a rear disc brake a deal breaker for me, certainly not. but it puts a big X on my check box, and at the end of the day weighed heavily down on the final tally of points. it certainly mattered more compared to choosing an SUV with or without a push button start.

i still believe that Toyota should have installed rear disc brakes on the Fort. it has become the standard set-up of the segment, and for good reasons. these SUV's are now capable of reaching almost 200 kph and with them weighing between 2 - 2.5 tons, we all need the stopping power we can get in a best-in-class system.