Isuzu crosswind XT or mistsubishi adventure or toyota innova

[kenchi himura]

hi guys,

Ask ko lang po kung anu mas maganda kunin sa 3:adventure, xwind or innova.

totoo po bang matagtag ang xwind?
ok na po ba ung issue sa innova?
magkaka facelift f pa po ba adventure?

thanks

[fullmetal]

afaik ok na yung issues ng innova. kaya for me...

1st: innova
2nd: adventure
3rd: crosswind


matipid din sa diesel ang innova at di naman matagtag. ok siya for me

[mda]

To answer your questions:

1. Subjectively, mas nasuka ako sa ride ng crosswind compared sa innova. So tagtag/ride quality is subjectively worse.

2. Innova issues have always been with the diesel variant. Mukhang hit or miss though. Yung mga iba, relatively new unit pero nagloloko. I know someone who owns an innova E diesel, 60+k kms na, and mag 5 yrs na yung innova and no issues kahit hard starting.

3. lagi naman nagkka facelift ang adventure, crosswind etc. Depends what you consider a facelift though. yung crosswind, mukhang may new colors for 2011 ;)

To be objective:

Adventure / Crosswind
- Old body
- Old engine
- slow
- mausok (the innovas minsan mausok din pero these moreso lalo if not well maintained)
+ "Proven" / rugged
+ relatively cheaper to maintain
+ easy to look for parts outside the CASA

Innova
+ Newer (engineered with newer safety standards, with higher variants coming with airbags, ABS, etc)
+ Better creature comforts, arguably better ride/suspension, has a more "posh" feeling
+ More powerful engine (may use slightly more fuel)
+/- comes in gas variant if you're interested
- Some issues with the CRDi
- more expensive to maintain / parts outside may be more expensive than similar xwind/adventure parts
- mas mahal ayusin kapag na ondoy ulet or something.

All three appear to carry a good resale value though. Just depends on what you value when you're making a purchase.

Subjectively, Innova for me.

[dagol]

To answer your questions:

1. Subjectively, mas nasuka ako sa ride ng crosswind compared sa innova. So tagtag/ride quality is subjectively worse.

2. Innova issues have always been with the diesel variant. Mukhang hit or miss though. Yung mga iba, relatively new unit pero nagloloko. I know someone who owns an innova E diesel, 60+k kms na, and mag 5 yrs na yung innova and no issues kahit hard starting.

3. lagi naman nagkka facelift ang adventure, crosswind etc. Depends what you consider a facelift though. yung crosswind, mukhang may new colors for 2011 ;)

To be objective:

Adventure / Crosswind
- Old body
- Old engine
- slow
- mausok (the innovas minsan mausok din pero these moreso lalo if not well maintained)
+ "Proven" / rugged
+ relatively cheaper to maintain
+ easy to look for parts outside the CASA

Innova
+ Newer (engineered with newer safety standards, with higher variants coming with airbags, ABS, etc)
+ Better creature comforts, arguably better ride/suspension, has a more "posh" feeling
+ More powerful engine (may use slightly more fuel)
+/- comes in gas variant if you're interested
- Some issues with the CRDi
- more expensive to maintain / parts outside may be more expensive than similar xwind/adventure parts
- mas mahal ayusin kapag na ondoy ulet or something.

All three appear to carry a good resale value though. Just depends on what you value when you're making a purchase.

Subjectively, Innova for me.

Pwedeng malaman kung saan nagrerefuel ng Innova nya yung kakilala mo na di nagkaproblema sa ride nya para magkaroon ng magandang halimbawa para sa lahat ng may CRD na sasakyan.This might be the solution to D4d issues,i guess. TIA

[mda]

OT: They usually gas up along EDSA kasi daily route nila.

But medyo OT na nga.

[Sleepcare]

For me
1.-Innova
2.-Crosswind
3.-Adventure

Hindi ko pa nafefeel yung tagtag ng crosswind. Pero marami na nagsabi saakin tungkol doon.
Sa innova naman, may "some" units na maganda naman. Mayroon namang, hindi talaga maganda. Yung unit namin, natamaan ng sakit. Pero ok naman hanggang ngayon since ipagawa sa CASA.
Sa adventure naman, i can't comment much kasi we never owned one. Pero i think, ok naman siya pero mas gusto ko and crosswind than adventure.

[Ry_Tower]

afaik ok na yung issues ng innova. kaya for me...

1st: innova
2nd: adventure
3rd: crosswind


matipid din sa diesel ang innova at di naman matagtag. ok siya for me

+1, same ranking for me. I ranked the adventure higher because for me overpriced na crosswind.

The innova is better in all aspect except in the ruggedness part. Ok na rin naman diesel niya, hindi na katulad ng dati na maraming may problems.

[myk384]

Forget about the Crosswind. There are other better choices out there

[renzo_d10]

hi guys,

Ask ko lang po kung anu mas maganda kunin sa 3:adventure, xwind or innova.

totoo po bang matagtag ang xwind?

Yup. Matagtag talaga siya.

ok na po ba ung issue sa innova?

AFAIK. Okay na. Hindi narin naman ako nakakarinig ng issues regarding its D4D lately.

magkaka facelift f pa po ba adventure?

Maybe. Maybe not. Ewan natin. No news as of now. Pero if magkaroon, wala naman sobrang major changes diyan. Very minor.

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Between the three, Innova ako.

[Starex_Gold]

2 out of 10 nalang "daw" yung D-4D ngayon na may issue. Hehehe

[eljo3025]

2 out of 10 nalang "daw" yung D-4D ngayon na may issue. Hehehe

so bale 2,000 sa 10,000 na Innova may sira?
OMG!

[kenchi himura]

mga sir and ma'am...panu po kaya mkakakuha ng mgandang innova ung hindi sakitin kasi po ung friend ko mayroon silang innova d4d engine 2008 model then all of a sudden nag stall nalang po bigla then when they took it sa casa they were told that its the computer box that went out and it will cost them a whapping 150k for the repair since its out of warranty already. thanks

[mda]

mga sir and ma'am...panu po kaya mkakakuha ng mgandang innova ung hindi sakitin kasi po ung friend ko mayroon silang innova d4d engine 2008 model then all of a sudden nag stall nalang po bigla then when they took it sa casa they were told that its the computer box that went out and it will cost them a whapping 150k for the repair since its out of warranty already. thanks

Kapag computer box, isolated case yata.

You don't hear ECUs dying very often. Baka marami na silang kinalikot sa electricals?

Usually yung injectors ata yung old issue sa innovas.

[Ry_Tower]

mga sir and ma'am...panu po kaya mkakakuha ng mgandang innova ung hindi sakitin kasi po ung friend ko mayroon silang innova d4d engine 2008 model then all of a sudden nag stall nalang po bigla then when they took it sa casa they were told that its the computer box that went out and it will cost them a whapping 150k for the repair since its out of warranty already. thanks

Maganda rin sir siguro na mag-2nd opinion kayo sa ibang shop. Parang sobrang mahal ng P150K para sa computer box lang. 15% ng value niya? grabe ha. Yung hilux na 2008 model ng friend ko ganyan din nangyari, biglang namamatay. Issue talaga ng mga 1st batch ng D4D yan.

[Ry_Tower]

2 out of 10 nalang "daw" yung D-4D ngayon na may issue. Hehehe

haha, taas naman nyan, 2 out of 100 pupuwede pa.

[vinj]

2 out of 10 nalang "daw" yung D-4D ngayon na may issue. Hehehe

"2 out of 10" nga daw... and out of those 2, 1.75 is hearsay; Nabasa sa internet, Innova ng kumpare ng bayaw ng tiyahin nila, etc. Hehe

I've owned and personally used those three in the last ten years and I'd still go with the Innova by a long, wide mile over the Adventure and Crosswind. In our immediate family we've had a total of 4 Innovas (three 05's and one '09), one had the D4d problem which was sold and replaced with a newer Innova (the buyer had it repaired at Denso for around Php 40K and its still running well last time i checked).

In the end. Go and test drive your choices.

[ben_david19]

reliability, maintenance and value for money ang mahalaga sa akin so..

1. Adventure (pasok sa 3 category na sinabi ko so top of the list)
2. Crosswind (hindi lang pasok sa value for money dahil IMO masyado siyang mahal so 2nd placer)
3. Innova (may value for money pero reliability at maintenance... marami pa rin kailangang kaining bigas ito para ma-prove na isa siyang "stud" at kayang pumantay sa dalawang barakong ito (Advie/Xwind))

[trebhz2k1]

Gandang araw po! Sir Kenchi Himura, nakabili na po ba kayo? Ano po ang pinili nyo? Like you po kasi eto rin mga binanggit nyo mga choices ko. Hirap po pumili. Ano po feedback nyo sa nabili nyong unit? Salamat po!

[kenchi himura]

Sorry for the late reply but yes we decided to go for the innova specifically the innova G DSL and so far wala pa naman kami na-encounter na problem? Ang sarap i-drive and talagang mag e-enjoy ka sa spacious feel sa loob.