Mitsu Fusion, Toyota Innova or Kia Carens?

[aquagreen28]

Please help I can't decide which one to get, or is there anythings else within that price range? tnx!

[niky]

Carens CRDi. Best ride, great economy, possibly best diesel technology out there now. Downsides: smaller than the other two (elbow room similar, but trunk space tiny), unknown durability of underchassis, so-so transmissions.

But if we're talking practicality, the 2.5 D4D Innova is still the leader, as long as you don't go all out on the top-of-the-line model. It accelerates decently, drives well, and has a tough ladder frame. Only downside is the lack of power (compared to other CRDis, not to other AUVs) and questionable durability of the suspension (matagtag, but not as bad as other AUVs), but it's still a great buy. It's one of the few current Toyotas that I actually respect and recommend buying.

The Fuzion has a great ride (better than the Innova) and good space, but that big, ancient gasoline engine isn't really the best for fuel economy. If you're going to spend that much money on a vehicle, better to get a van.

If you're going over 1m, you really should consider the Starex. I don't really like the suspension (too soft...), but that's a matter of taste. It gives the best space and comfort for your money. (The Hiace Grandia is just a bit too expensive and the seats are kinda poor).

[lui]

fuzion maganda talaga kaso feeling ko malaks sya sa gas. sa 3 po carens crdi pipiliin ko.

[drey]

oo nga... Yung Fuzion should have a diesel, kahit yung 4D56/4D56T/4D56 TDiC okay na rin yun...

[phoenixradmd]

I personally drive a Carens but I've driven the Innova used by my folks and other relatives plus input on its performance, I like the car-ride feel of the CRDi engine over the D4D engine of the Innova but the latter indeed has more room but the third row of the Carens seems to accommodate adults better plus the tumble down configuration is better and more neat-looking.

I guess it boils down to dependability, toyota has a clear advantage, ask me in three years about the performance of the carens.

owned a lancer MX and outlander before, i was disappointed in terms of performance and service quality and had to let go of these vehicles in such a short time but since i have no experience yet as to the fuzion/zinger's ride much less driven it,no comment muna ako.

[BlueBimmer]

the 1st gen outlander was clearly inferior to the crv..especially the rav4

ngayon baliktad na

[astroboyforte]

I drive a Kia Carens too .. Gasoline .. my carens does close to 9km/lt .. mostly City driving ..
Carens is the better among the three. It has better
1. Riding comfort. Most carlike, better seating ergonomics and space including 3rd row. Carens does not have a truck platform unlike Innova and Fuzion.
2. Acceleration. The CRDI and gas option has among the highest torque and horsepower. yes, the initial acceleration may not be as fast as cars but it is a LOT (take note I say a LOT) faster than Innova or Fuzion. Have you tried stepping on the gas pedal of Fusion from a halt.. todo sa sahig! .. mas mabilis ba yung picanto!
3. Safety. Lower center of gravity, ABS and airbags. US and Euro certified car safety. Both Innova and Fuzion cannot claim the same. Nakakatakot i-drive sa curves ang Innova at speeds of more than 100km/hr or more .. try driving the Innova, Fuzion and Carens along the curves of Nueva Viscaya, Infanta Quezon or Baguio to see the difference.
4. Fuel economy. Compared to Innova and Fuzion, Carens is the most economical in terms of km/lt. Fuel economy suffers for Fuzion and Innova because of car weight and outdated + inefficient engine (for fusion).
5. Least expensive (if you compare based on car features)

The biggest let down for Carens it is brand name. But Kia and its parent firm Hyundai has gone leeps and bounds in terms of Safety and Reliability in the past 5 years. Surprisingly, the 2007 Kia Carens has a higher rating from JD Power than Toyota RAV4 and Mitsubishi Outlander.

As for its modest design .. but that's the point of the Carens. It is designed more as a family car, a people mover .. for those with limited budget. Aanhin mo ang super pogi na kotse pero nauunahan ka nang "plain joe" cars like a Carens. Di ba nakakainis! Buti na lang di uso sa Pinas yung tinatapunan ka nang posporo!

[saipeme]

[quote=astroboyforte;863036]I drive a Kia Carens too .. Gasoline .. my carens does close to 9km/lt .. mostly City driving ..

4. Fuel economy. Compared to Innova and Fuzion, Carens is the most economical in terms of km/lt. Fuel economy suffers for Fuzion and Innova because of car weight and outdated + inefficient engine (for fusion).


your fc is comparable to innova gas fed but for diesel variant carens fc has to prove yet there are some owners in the other thread getting a fc lower than innova diesel...

[washburn]

+1 carens CRDi

[LPM]

Yes carens has the advantage of fuel economy but one downside is lower ground clearance compared to innova and fuzion esp kung may baha at lubak na madaanan. Suggest ko to search for threads in other countries regarding
durability of carens.

[hahnvin]

if you need a family vehicle the innova is the best hands down. if you want a car like ride then go for the carens.

[Xt7]

para sakin. toyota will always be toyota, mitsu will always be mistu at kia will always be kia...

lalam naman natin lahat na toyota pinakamatibay sa talo next na ang mitsu at last talaga ang kia.....

choose toyota....2nd is mitsubishi

kung sinasabi nila na improved technology na rin ang kia, ang toyota dati pa improved.. huling huli na sila sa technology about making automobiles... pwede rin mitsu fuzion kaso masyado mahal. 950k yung low end nila.

[Cult Zero]

Carens CRDi.

Yes carens has the advantage of fuel economy but one downside is lower ground clearance compared to innova and fuzion esp kung may baha at lubak na madaanan. Suggest ko to search for threads in other countries regarding
durability of carens.

For me the low ground clearance is a positive.

[hominid]

kung sinasabi nila na improved technology na rin ang kia, ang toyota dati pa improved..

Mas advance ang CRDi ng Hyundai/Kia kesa D4D ng Toyota.

[carbomb]

para sakin. toyota will always be toyota, mitsu will always be mistu at kia will always be kia...

lalam naman natin lahat na toyota pinakamatibay sa talo next na ang mitsu at last talaga ang kia.....

choose toyota....2nd is mitsubishi

kung sinasabi nila na improved technology na rin ang kia, ang toyota dati pa improved.. huling huli na sila sa technology about making automobiles... pwede rin mitsu fuzion kaso masyado mahal. 950k yung low end nila.

i dont think so bro dont judge the korean cars bro. their technology is somehow comparable or even better than the toyota and mitsu, well honda is another story. i bought my carens last july and i can say that it is really a nice car. wala pa rin ako masabi sa ganda ng takbo and yung interior, dito talong talo ang innova except the new v variant of innova, medyo maganda kc interior nun but the price really tells u why. so if your budget is limited but you need a car that is suitable for a family of 7 better choose kia.

[Starex_Gold]

Innova parin ako. maganda sana yung Fuzion kung may diesel variant. agree ako sa mga nagsasabing advance ang CRDi engines ng Hyundai & Kia kasi matagal na silang may CRDi. Sa palagay ko hindi nila matatalo ang Innova.

Design= Innova
Convinience= Innova
ride comfort & size= Innova
Engine= Carens CRDi
Interior= Fuzion

hindi lahat ng D-4D Innovas may engine problem and sabi ng pinsan ko na inayos na raw yun ng Toyota. Kasi 2007 model na Innova D-4D ng pinsan ko at nakaka 13,+++ kms na pero wala pang engine problem.

[mazdamazda]

If ever i'm in the market for an MPV, I'd pick the Carens... with 140hp from a 2.0L CRDi engine, it'll simply blow away the competition.

I don't really like the Fusion with its aging 2.4L gasoline engine.

The base model Innova VVTi for me is the practical choice. Since the D4D engine woes thread, I have little faith in it to be that bulletproof after the warranty expires.

[boyT]

Go for the Innova.

Other than the features, FC, price, consider also the following

1. Availabilty of parts (CBU or CKU )
- If you plan to use it long term, consider parts availability in the future.
Innova is the only locally assembled unit. Fuzion and Carens are both CBU.

2. Number of units sold
- You will the see the market preference/share. I read an article in a magazine that Innova is the only brand that has sold more than 4,500 units in just 6 months (first half of 2007 - 4,853 units to be exact)

3. Resale value
- Think long term.

Good luck !

[NightWinger]

Sa akin lang. Sobra rami na ang Inova. Kaya takaw carnap na rin yan.
It's time to give Kia a chance again! At maganda naman talaga ang Carens. At panalo to sa comfort ng rides and FC!

[OTEP]

para sakin. toyota will always be toyota, mitsu will always be mistu at kia will always be kia...

lalam naman natin lahat na toyota pinakamatibay sa talo next na ang mitsu at last talaga ang kia.....

choose toyota....2nd is mitsubishi

This is called stereotyping in psychiatry, right? :lol:

So what happens when Ford sells rebadged Kias? Is it still a Kia?

When Hyundai licenses a Mitsubishi, Mitsundai? :lol:

Look at the car, not the badge...