Toyota Altis 1.8g, 1.6g or Honda Jazz??

[bratski]

pang second car. can fit a family of 3 plus yaya.ano mas practical? the wife will use it kasi.

[Type 100]

Try test-driving all of them.

One caveat against the Jazz is a firm ride that some people may find harsh, especially at higher speeds over lumpy asphalt. But you can't argue against its interior room. Have your wife try it out (sit both in front and rear seats) to see for yourselves if it's for you.

If you want a better-riding car you should have your butt test the Altis' ride quality, but expect a mild hit in fuel economy. Not much, mind, but noticeable. (We have a 1.6L 2002 model.)

[Type 100]

If you're not in a hurry, you can also wait for the new GE-series Jazz due out by September or so. They say the ride quality on the newer model should be better, and it's gained some interior space over the already spacious outgoing GD-series one.

[Djerms]

My 1.6g model travels 8.5km/l in the city. I'm thinking the 1.8g model can only get around 7km/l considering its bigger and heavier engine. Both are ATs by the way.

One of the cars on my wish list is the Jazz. Are you looking for a 2nd hand car or a brand new one? Wait for the new jazz, Its a lot better.

[Evo9]

ey bro, for my opinion...i'd better pick tha Honda Jazz(i'm talking about the i-DSi type)...matipid kasi ito at combustion efficient...and bro, bagay tlga sa mga babae to...its elegant and very cute for a lady...

[caloyski5]

very practical ang jazz. storage space malaki and matipid

[bratski]

clarify ko lang mga bros, what im looking for is used altis or jazz, sa altis mga 02-03 model and sa jazz mga 04. sayang kasi pag bago bago pa, pang practice lang ng wife hehehe

[bratski]

O nga pala, gusto ko sana ng mazda3 kaso out of budget na, Ive alloted 400k lang budget for the wife's "bump car" hehehe. kung may ma suggest kayo alternatives pls do. it has to be matic pala.thanks

[niky]

Get a 1.3 iDSi manual. Can't go wrong with that car. A 1.6 MT Altis would be good, too, but the 1.3 iDSi MT is one of the most fuel efficient cars money can buy.

In terms of interior space, the Altis has more elbow room, but they aren't very different otherwise, as the Jazz is huge inside for such a small car.

The downsides for the Jazz include hard seats and a low front seat cushion that causes some knee pain for some drivers (not all of them complain about it) over 5'7". But if your wife isn't any taller than 5'4", it's not a problem. If you're getting a CVT, find out whether it's had proper maintenance and is still under warranty. Find out, also, if the car was part of the batch recalled for incorrect use of transmission fluid. The CVT can be burned out (the clutch packs, that is), if the car has been raced, but if it has been used as a commuter car, they should be okay. But for complete peace of mind, get the manual.

Otherwise, you can't go wrong with a Jazz.

[Type 100]

Used Jazzes are still pretty rare (I got mine last year, a MY2005 1.3 i-DSI manual) but I notice there are a few more units trading hands now.

One minor quibble with the Jazz interior is its dimpled plastic surfacing. It's a move to copy VW's European hatchback interiors, but it's quite prone to scratching.

As for the front seats...I'm 5'8" and the only knee pain I had was on a four-hour drive to Subic. Blame the heavy traffic at Olongapo City, I had to use the clutch a lot there :p More of my fault really as I didn't stop for breaks.

[niky]

Kaya nga... it's "some". I've noticed it's mostly us older and heavier guys (arthritic kasi... :hysterical: ) that complain... but other than those gruelling three to four hour drives, it's not a problem. I did a two hour romp in Tagaytay with a 1.5 MT with no problems... man... I love that little car.

[bratski]

yikes, balak ko pa naman gamitin yung jazz paminsan minsan. im 6'0" pa naman baka tuhod ko nakatukod na hehehe. prefer ko kasi automatic so the wife can drive it.hindi siya marunong ng manual. bumpy ba talaga ride nya? friend ko na naka mazda3 ang sabi naman maporma yung mazda3 pero poor on performance, makupad ba talaga mazda3?

[bratski]

so pag jazz pala dapat manual ang kunin ko? nakakatakot pala yung cvt hehehe. scratch off na yung jazz sa list ko kung ganun

[niky]

If the previous owner has replaced the ATF with CVTF as part of the recall, and as long as he hasn't raced the car, it should be okay.

You should try the Jazz first and see for yourself. There's lots of leg-room, it's just some people have problems with the position. And it's probably more spacious in terms of leg-room, overall, than the Corolla.

[baludoy]

i'd go for the jazz. nothing beats it when it comes to city driving.

btw, we have a 1.3 idsi w/c just turned 3 yrs old last month. so far, except for a battery change, we've had no untoward incident w/ it. one thing that's a pet peeve for me though is the rubber "chin" like contraption underneath the front bumper. i'm thinking of just buying a new chin for it or maybe even a "sport" bumper. the problem is if i buy a chin, a siderskirt and a "rear" chin is sure to follow or else it wouldn't look complete. then of course you have got to paint it to match your body color...hay naku, ang gastos

[bratski]

^^ benta mo nalang sakin sir baludoy para mawala na problems mo, hehehe. seriously. right now kasi im at a loss kung anong sedan bibilhin para sa budget kong 400k. im looking at the lynx, vios, sentra, altis,jazz, haay dami choices. preferred ko kasi matic at medyo bagu bago pa like 2002 model up.

[Type 100]

friend ko na naka mazda3 ang sabi naman maporma yung mazda3 pero poor on performance, makupad ba talaga mazda3?

Ah, the problems of mating a heavy body with a relatively weedy motor...

As the venerable Niky says, try a test drive to cement your opinions of the cars. All we're sharing is our personal experience.

Baludoy: Ang ganda naman ng problema mo. Hahahaha! I have the same issue with the stock rubber "chin" on the first-released Jazzes too. It's basically an overgrown weather strip as per Ferman Lao. Mine's gotten a little twisted out of shape but I don't really mind.

[niky]

Kailan ako naging venerable? Di pa ako patay, ah...

Whatever you do, don't get a Lynx! I hate it! Absolutely hate it! it's cost me tons of money at the mechanic!





















Bili kasi ako ng bili ng mods... sports shocks, exhaust, intake, computer chip, dyno-tuning, mags, tires, more tires, better brakes, clutch, better clutch... more tires... hahahaha... ang sarap kasi! Ang bilis! Ang sarap i-modify! Ang MAHAL NG BAGONG TIRES!!! Hahahaha... :hysterical:

Seriously... over 80,000 kilometers on it in three years, and the only issues I have had are the suspension noise and the replaced ball joint in front due to hitting a pothole at high speed (super-deformed yung mags ko sa lakas ng impact... buti hindi ako na-flat!). Wonderful car.

Only issue is the Mitsubishi electronics (yes, the Lynx uses Mitsu parts, even though it's a Mazda). Older 1.6 owners have had to buy new cam position sensors and ignition coils... but these are wear items... ganyan din naman sa mga ibang Japanese cars kung sobrang init ang running condition (super traffic every day). I'm 3 years in, and I haven't had to replace any yet.

[bratski]

hmmm... ok yung suggestions nyo on test drives pero its too hard to schedule test drives on second hand cars, both mentally and physically exhausting. based on your personal comments dun nalang ako mag narrow down on my vehicle choice, then test drives examples on that vehicle until i find the most acceptable. So far sa mga nababasa kong comments and reviews mga practical choices lang is mag 01-02 altis and 01-04 lynx ako. yung mga 04 jazz kakaunti ang nagbebenta and ang mahal pa. hindi ata nag dedepreciate ang jazz hehehe.

[baludoy]

Baludoy: Ang ganda naman ng problema mo. Hahahaha! I have the same issue with the stock rubber "chin" on the first-released Jazzes too. It's basically an overgrown weather strip as per Ferman Lao. Mine's gotten a little twisted out of shape but I don't really mind.

pangit nga na problema kasi walang budget na-isip ko lang iyon bro kasi ang dami nag bebenta ngayon ng jazz body kits na napag-sawaan na ng mga previous owners. pero dapt priority ko siguro talaga iyong ek muna namin sa pagpa-pogi. 1st love ko iyon eh :inlababu: