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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Mazdas and Subarus always win COTY awards because the criteria doesn't include aftersales support, resale value, long-term reliability, and so on.

    Just purely driving dynamics, features, and subjective opinions of test drivers. Which is why there's a disconnect between what wins in magazine comparos and what wins in the sales charts.

    Case in point - Mazda 2. Drives great, looks great, has nice features, priced reasonably. But the Vios outsells it several hundred-fold.

    In TG's PPV comparo, the MUX ranked dead last because it wasn't as advanced or as powerful as the others. But it costs several hundred thousand pesos cheaper, and that matters more than whether your truck can do 0-100 under 10 seconds.

    To be fair, this disconnect is not limited to local car magazines. It's a worldwide phenomenon, because car magazines are for car enthusiasts, but car buying is for everyone (with enough money).


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    Hey, if they asked us to grade them on "Which one would you buy", I would have put the MU-X first. Proven platform. Proven reliability. And it's good at doing the family thing even if it isn't the most glamorous or high tech.

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    Car of the Year and Comparos are beauty contests. "Who would you most like to have a one night stand with?"

    Car buying... that's like picking your husband/wife. Alcoholic party-crazy male/female models need not apply.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Hey, if they asked us to grade them on "Which one would you buy", I would have put the MU-X first. Proven platform. Proven reliability. And it's good at doing the family thing even if it isn't the most glamorous or high tech.

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    Car of the Year and Comparos are beauty contests. "Who would you most like to have a one night stand with?"

    Car buying... that's like picking your husband/wife. Alcoholic party-crazy male/female models need not apply.
    Great analogy. [emoji38]

    I do wish there'd be a shift in priorities for car comparos. After all, most Filipino car buyers are also first-time owners, and plan to keep their hard-earned purchases for quite a while.




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    If the judges were to follow your criterias ... that list would be filled mostly with Toyotas ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    If the judges were to follow your criterias ... that list would be filled mostly with Toyotas ...
    if you check asian countries even in japan leading pa din toyota there something talaga sa reliability ng toyota i ask mechanica and even owner of auto shops recommended pa din nila toyota kaya hindi mentality lang ng pinoy ang bumili ng toyota worth talaga for investment compare sa iba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    If the judges were to follow your criterias ... that list would be filled mostly with Toyotas ...
    Not necessarily, unless you're conceding that only Toyotas can last decades.

    For example, in the crowded midrange subcompact category, I don't think the Vios is a clear winner.

    If I wanted an all-rounder family car, my top 3 options would be the Vios, City, and Ciaz.

    Among the 3, the Vios 1.3E is the safest choice in the sense that it has ample power, ample space, and ample features. However, it's not exactly spectacular in any aspect, except that it carries Toyota's vaunted reliability, parts availability, and dealer network.

    The Ciaz 1.4 GL easily has the most premium interior with lots of space (especially for rear passengers where it feels like a compact), a better looking exterior than the Vios, and a decent powerplant that's efficient despite the 4AT. Downside of course is that Suzuki has a limited dealership network, and parts availability in the long term could be difficult.

    The City 1.5 E is a bit shortchanged in terms of features compared to the VX, but is also much cheaper and priced to compete against the Vios E and Ciaz GL. What it lacks in toys, it makes up with its superb engine and huge interior.

    If I was willing to trade space for even better driving dynamics, I'd toss in the Mazda 2 1.5V. Pricier than the others, it does offer the best drive with a very light chassis paired with the 1.5L Skyactiv. Interior design and build quality is top notch as well. However, space is really at a premium, and this could be a dealbreaker for anyone who plans to use it as a family car as well.

    Point is, for car comparos, I think the question of "Which would you buy?", while putting yourself in the shoes of the potential target market, will result to a more relevant comparison than simply highlighting performance figures and high-tech gimmickry. While these are important, they are not the only things people care about, and depending on the vehicle segment, they may not matter much at all.


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